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To not give builders food

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:43

Help me settle this difference of opinion. I have a company coming out in 3 weeks time to install a lot of fencing. I mentioned to dh that I will get them coffee, tea, and biscuits/cookies in to have with drinks. Dh is saying just the drinks is fine, and for me to just offer it as and when. The job is going to take 2 days. I want to give the men something to eat as well, at the very least.
DH is then saying he doesn't want them trailing through the house, which I do understand. However, I was going to set a table outside with a flask, tea bags, coffee, milk & sugar, and bowl of biscuits so that they could help themselves. I thought this would be less restricting and mean that they can get it when they want, without waiting for me to ask. I also think it saves me running around when i have a child to look after. DH is saying that this is well over the top.

Is this okay? Or is it wrong i set this up outside for them? It is an outdoor job, so I thought it would be easier all around, and they'll be working hard.

Thank you.

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PraiseTheSunshine · 14/06/2024 13:46

I think it's a nice thing to do and it means they don't have to down tools to go and get drinks or food.

When I recently had work done I made tea/coffee and bacon sandwiches for the builders. They knocked £200 off the bill because it didn't take them as long as expected to finish the job but I'd like to think it was my amazing tea and sandwiches 😄

Siriusmuggle · 14/06/2024 13:22

Wife of a tradesman here. They will always appreciate a brew and a biscuit is a nice extra. Loo is important. My H has one customer who baked them something every day and even gave him a cake to bring home with him.

TorroFerney · 14/06/2024 12:57

BardsAreAssholes · 10/06/2024 14:01

I do teas and coffees. I don't offer biscuits because I don't have them in as a rule.

In my experience most workmen (workwomen?) come with a flask and water bottle anyway, and go off to the nearest Greggs around 11 ish.

Same here. Brews no biscuits. I also find they don't want to use your loo for a shit anymore than you may to want them to use it!

I've found recently though that I've had very health conscious tradespeople - one was doing intermittent fasting, one didn't drink tea or coffee and the fence chaps had their own kedgeree which they asked me to ping and ate in the van.

starfishmummy · 14/06/2024 12:57

Makings for hot drinks is fine, I'd usually get biscuits too. In a similar situation to yours I showed then where everything was and said just to help themselves if I wasn't around. They used to send the apprentice in to make it - he always took his boots off at the back door and was also known to make me a drink too!!

user09876543 · 14/06/2024 12:28

We had builders on site for the best part of 18 months. It would have cost a fortune and taken a ridiculous amount of time if i was preparing bacon rolls and lunches for them constantly.

Hitchcockshandkerchief · 14/06/2024 12:09

spriots · 10/06/2024 14:09

That is my experience too

I have found - apologies for the stereotyping - that Eastern European tradesmen seem to bring their own and look a bit bemused if you try to offer them anything. But British tradesmen will almost always welcome a tea/coffee.

I always offer to anyone working in our home but that's my experience of the outcome

I'm Eastern European.

They look bemused, because it's not a done thing 'back home'. Tradesmen are employees, you're - their employer. They came to do the job, you're paying them for it. It's not expected and absolutely not necessary to feed them. They bring their own, always. Flasks with tea, sandwiches, hot food flasks, whatever. If you'd set them a table with biscuits, various drinks, etc, you'd invariably get a wtf..? reaction. They would be grateful, though. But because we're not smiley/chatty/small talk-y people, bit stony faced as a rule, they might seem rude with their reaction. They don't mean to be.

However, if you'd tell them to go to a supermarket loos to do their business, you'd get more than a bit bemused reaction. Because that's unheard of 'back home'. I've never encountered such preciousness about loos before I visited the UK. Workmen always use inside loo, they do ask for the first time, but that's more of a theoretical question, out of politeness, no one would even dream of hearing 'no' in reply.

Yellowpingu · 14/06/2024 12:09

They’ll probably have set break times for morning and afternoon. Ask whoever’s in charge for their times. The guys I work with all take enough supplies to last the day but always appreciate it if someone makes the effort. TBH 2 days is nothing but I’d have a big jug of tap water in the fridge if it’s hot and maybe some cheap ice lollies in the freezer. If our guys are doing outdoor work in the blistering heat I often do an ice lolly run as it’s good for morale.

dahliadream · 14/06/2024 11:54

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 13:52

No, but if there’s a cafe nearby, I would hope they’d go there. I hate workmen using our loo

I'm honestly shocked and appalled at this statement! They're humans who are working on your home, of course they should be able to access your toilet!

BusyMummy001 · 14/06/2024 11:35

I always offer coffee (we have a proper cappuccino machine and they love it).

If they are here for a long time (2-3m doing renovations/landscaping or extensions) I will buy pastries or make bacon butties on a Friday, but this is a goodwill gesture to encourage the best work, not out of a sense of politeness or obligation.

RancidRuby · 14/06/2024 10:52

You're overthinking this, OP, and seem overly anxious about doing the right thing. It's just a few blokes in your garden for a couple of days - just offer them a brew as they arrive and again after lunch if you're around and have the time. Add a packet of biscuits to the tea tray and then go about your day. No need to wrap yourself in knots deliberating about branded or supermarket brand biscuits etc, just buy what you would normally buy.

ThiswillDoItsfine · 14/06/2024 10:49

Sorry for the typos! Edit has timed out.

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 14/06/2024 10:47

respectful and did*

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 14/06/2024 10:17

Rightsraptor · 14/06/2024 09:02

Why does your H have this attitude, OP? It's a pretty miserable one. Is he like this with everyone? I had also assumed the 'food' in your title was something far more substantial than biscuits!

I had landscapers recently, I probably didn't give them biscuits as I tend not to have them (I eat them all if I do), but I did make careful note of how they like their drinks, made proper coffee for the coffee drinkers and tea with leaf tea, not bags. Much nicer. It's important to keep workers happy.

If they often work in unoccupied properties they might bring their own, as my daughter's builders did. We got in lots of snacks for them but they didn't eat them. So we did.

Proper coffee in a machine? Tea made with leaves? That must have taken you ages! Gosh that was very nice of you.
We don't do those things for ourselves, so it'll be instant for us. I'm not using my pod machine either as those are expensive, and the job isn't cheap. The builders probably have more money than we do! I don't have time with young dc, and work regardless.

I'll do drinks, and a thoughtful selection of individually wrapped biscuits/choc bars like I did for a job awhile back. If they're on a health kick they don't need to go get one, and I'm sure they've brought some healthy snacks themselves, with biscuits being the most common item customers offer. I know because it is such hard work, most of the workmen don't deny themselves at least one biscuit.

On a previous job the men were very appreciative of the hot teas, and thanked me for looking after them. It was as though they weren't used to it; it sounds like alot of people don't offer. It was sad because it was winter time and they were out in the cold. One of them said his son loved the biscuits, and took the rest home and he was sorry. I said don't worry, I bought them in for you anyway. I refilled the bowl for the next day. They were the loveliest workmen, and so rerespectfuldidnan amazing job, didn't make noise, super polite.

However the plasterers I didn't like. They were very loud, blasting music, scaring my toddler, and made me feel uncomfortable. They made immature jokes constantly, smirking when i came in with drinks, anr kept shutting themselves in the room, it was awful. They disappeared for hours, didnt even let me know they were going, had to stay later through dinner time because they slacked off so much in the daytime, which was tiring for us. I treated them exactly the same, regular hot drinks, snacks, and it was only an indoor job. They acted ignorantly regardless, did a bad job, and the company had to send different plasterers out to rectify the mess. Dh was at work, and when he came home h was furious.I wasn't well at the time having just collapsed a couple of months before. I think dh is clinging on to this bad experience, forgetting that thos was just a bad isolated experience.
They were the type where hospitality meant they didnt need tp do anything, and it was a bigger party. I don't always think drinks and snacks make for a good job, there are exceptions.

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Ghyur · 14/06/2024 10:10

In my opinion you always end up with a better and quicker job with “well fed” workmen

Wetellyourstory · 14/06/2024 09:42

When we have any workmen coming, I always ask what their favourite biscuits are. We don’t tend to have biscuits due to dietary requirements so acknowledge that workmen may have similar dietary needs - wouldn’t want to offer them something they can’t eat. Currently have a landscaper, who will be here about 3 weeks. I know his routine, when he takes his lunch/snack breaks and make him a cuppa at those times and when he arrives each day. Biscuits are left in the biscuit barrel on his workbench for him to help himself throughout the day. Told him he can come in to use the toilet. Wouldn’t dream of treating workmen any differently than this.

Can’t believe people don’t allow workmen to use the toilet.

Stormyweathr · 14/06/2024 09:12

Badassnameforadojo · 14/06/2024 08:51

I think it’s really dependant on where you live. Im rural. There isn’t anywhere for them to go at lunch. They always bring sandwiches etc the first day, but when the realise I’m cooking lunch everyday, they stop bringing stuff. But if I didn’t cook, they’d have their own food.

That is very true I live in a town not far from a city centre so lots of shops, cafes and places to get take outs etc about but suppose it does depend on where the op lives as it is the norm for all builders who come to me

Todaywasbetter · 14/06/2024 09:12

What a strange thread

WeAllHaveWings · 14/06/2024 09:10

dh is a tradesman and what customers do varies enormously, so just do whatever ever you feel comfortable with.

Food wise he sometimes gets offered nothing (which is fine as he has his own large travel mug of coffee, and he never expects anything), sometimes tea/coffee and/or biscuits, and sometimes offers of food that can range from rolls in bacon to full meals. His favourites are customers who offer authentic India curries and he regularly comes home gushing about how brilliant they were and bags of mixed spices the customer has shared with him, but he never manages to replicate the curry at home!

Let them know where the loo is so they know they are welcome to use it, if we have tradesmen in I make sure they know where the loo is and tell them ok to come in in their boots as I've put floor covering down and/or its a hard floor and easily cleaned. You would be surprised how many customers make tradesmen who are there all day for days feel awkward about using their facilities.

Rightsraptor · 14/06/2024 09:02

Why does your H have this attitude, OP? It's a pretty miserable one. Is he like this with everyone? I had also assumed the 'food' in your title was something far more substantial than biscuits!

I had landscapers recently, I probably didn't give them biscuits as I tend not to have them (I eat them all if I do), but I did make careful note of how they like their drinks, made proper coffee for the coffee drinkers and tea with leaf tea, not bags. Much nicer. It's important to keep workers happy.

If they often work in unoccupied properties they might bring their own, as my daughter's builders did. We got in lots of snacks for them but they didn't eat them. So we did.

user09876543 · 14/06/2024 08:53

Come on, it costs less than £20 to buy a kettle. They can bring their own.

I've learned over the years that if I start off offering then they will expect me to continue. I then spend my time being asked for a cuppa instead of working. I haven't got time and to be honest I don't think about it since I don't have hot drinks.

Badassnameforadojo · 14/06/2024 08:51

Stormyweathr · 14/06/2024 08:47

My friend did bacon butties for the workmen every morning they loved it but I certainly didn’t

from experience any workmen I’ve had in like to go out at lunch and breakfast, they sit in their vans or drive to a local shop (and don’t even ask to use the toilet they must go when they go out ) think this is standard and the way I look at it’s the same as if I am in the office I don’t want to eat lunch at my desk

I think it’s really dependant on where you live. Im rural. There isn’t anywhere for them to go at lunch. They always bring sandwiches etc the first day, but when the realise I’m cooking lunch everyday, they stop bringing stuff. But if I didn’t cook, they’d have their own food.

Joelkimmo · 14/06/2024 08:51

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:49

@LlynTegid we thankfully have a downstairs toilet, as long as tjey take boots off they can use this. DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

my friend is a builder owns a firm. He said the lads especially the labours etc always put the extra in for the ones who offer a cuppa! They do a great job normally, and exceptional job if the host is a nice to them

Stormyweathr · 14/06/2024 08:47

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 14:13

That is really lovely of you. I'm not sure I'll be making hot food, but wanted to at least do a nice selection of biscuits/choc bars, cold pop, bottles of water, coffee and tea.

My friend did bacon butties for the workmen every morning they loved it but I certainly didn’t

from experience any workmen I’ve had in like to go out at lunch and breakfast, they sit in their vans or drive to a local shop (and don’t even ask to use the toilet they must go when they go out ) think this is standard and the way I look at it’s the same as if I am in the office I don’t want to eat lunch at my desk

notanothernana · 14/06/2024 08:25

My dad was a builder, the amount of times he had no access to kettles or toilets was outrageous. Not to mention the hot days when he wasn't offered water (people didn't carry water bottles then).

Flopsy145 · 14/06/2024 08:02

My husband is a builder, he and others bring all their own food and coffee in flasks etc, or go to the shop at lunch, offering tea/biscuits is never expected so I don't think they would think twice about not having it offered, but it is appreciated. I personally would always offer beverages a few times throughout the day and would probably get a pack of biscuits or some sort of cake for them, it's just a nice gesture