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Men can get Ovarian Cancer !

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dottiedodah · 10/06/2024 13:27

I mean WTAF? (Source Telegraph) Ovarian Cancer Action has actually stated this.Would be bad enough generally ,but I am undergoing Treatment for this ATM, and just think it sounds ludicrous .Have been in touch with them before now and they seemed quite helpful .Feel a bit affronted ! AIBU they can say what they think,YANBU They should stick to the facts and not upset people already ill?

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Cattenberg · 10/06/2024 18:01

@dottiedodah , I’m sorry to read that you’re going through this. I hope your treatment goes well.

dottiedodah · 10/06/2024 17:57

GelattoPistacchhio Thank you .It is nice people are reaching out to me.Fairly new diagnosis TBH. (Tree is fine LOL!) This charity was one I reached out to so a little put out by their thoughts TBH!

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Rubyupbeat · 10/06/2024 17:47

They should stipulate 'Trans men with ovaries' (yes, Women).
I think its insulting to those women going through treatment, those that have lost loved one through this insidious disease and those getting ovaries removed to prevent the disease!

HRTQueen · 10/06/2024 17:31

what's wrong with woman and woman who identify differently

this is factually correct without taking the word woman out

Its very important to keep the word women in our language when you are referring to what 99% of females. Woman have had to fight for the right for our medical needs to be taken seriously (along with all our other hard won fights)

Catnipcupcakes · 10/06/2024 17:24

According to my local NHS trust, who cannot under any circumstances use the word woman lest it upsets somebody, the information leaflet calls women “people with ovaries’. The cervical and breast cancer leaflets refer to ‘people with breasts’ and ‘people with a cervix’.

Scotland, of course.

EclairsAndDoughnuts · 10/06/2024 17:19

Men cannot get ovarian cancer. Women-including those who want to believe that they are a man-can.

Any woman who thinks she can call herself Arthur and that this now means that she cannot get ovarian cancer should really not be leaving the house without her mother.

MonsteraMama · 10/06/2024 17:18

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Did you read the post at all or just decide to come marching in here and be all offended on someone else's behalf about something that wasn't actually said?

She's not complaining about other people with cancer, she's not complaining about any individual at all. She's complaining about a charity's obfuscation of language when explaining something that is actually very simple in order to pander to a tiny minority of the population. HTH.

Also as a cancer survivor myself, cancer doesn't actually switch off our ability to give a shit about things that are smaller than cancer. HTH too.

TheKeatingFive · 10/06/2024 17:14

I don't know if everyone would think about their paternal line when it comes to BRCA genes — it's more common to think about whether mum, grandma and maternal aunties had it.

My paternal aunt died of breast cancer in her 40s and I have often wondered this.

Springwatch123 · 10/06/2024 17:09

Aperolschitts · 10/06/2024 13:35

This was the post I saw

So they haven’t actually said that men can get ovarian cancer, but that anyone with an ovary can.

so in many ways, they’ve dodged answering the question, by giving a reply to a different question. Ie, who can get ovarian cancer.

(although I don’t like the reply, because they haven’t actually answered the question, which is ‘no’)

Boomer55 · 10/06/2024 17:03

Unless they are biological females, they cannot get Ovarian cancer.

GelatoPistacchio · 10/06/2024 17:03

If they hadn't used the click bait question of can men get ovarian cancer, then the post would have been really useful and informative.

I don't know if everyone would think about their paternal line when it comes to BRCA genes — it's more common to think about whether mum, grandma and maternal aunties had it.

In an odd way it has made me more aware of something I hadn't thought about before. I'm not sure controversy is the best healthcare marketing technique though!

All the best during your treatment OP
🌲(Urgh was meant to be a bouquet 💐 but can't delete for some odd reason)

Imustgoforarun · 10/06/2024 17:02

The solution to this gender woo. Don’t make any charitable donations for a period of time. They will soon start noticing when they can’t pay their over inflated salaries to write this stuff

commonsense61 · 10/06/2024 17:01

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OkPedro · 10/06/2024 16:55

mindutopia · 10/06/2024 13:47

You can have ovaries if you were born with ambiguous genitalia (are intersex), so I can't see why someone who was raised as a boy (but who technically has ovaries) and would consider themselves a man couldn't get ovarian cancer. A surprising number of people are intersex (I think it's 1 in 1000 babies born?) so you probably know someone who this might apply to.

🙄 0.0.1% Are both with a DSD or VSD

VolvoFan · 10/06/2024 16:55

Men have testicles. Men who think they're women might claim to have ovaries. So no, men cannot get ovarian cancer. What an absolute kick in the teeth to sufferers and survivors. Cases of intersex/hermaphrodite are far too rare to even factor in. I'm sorry if that offends anyone on here, but chromosomes don't change. I wish you all the best with your treatment and a full, speedy recovery.

MrsSunshine2b · 10/06/2024 16:49

AstonMartha · 10/06/2024 16:46

@MrsSunshine2b you might want to consider a name change as it doesn’t really reflect your personality.

I'm not the one going round having a pity party because some people I don't know have cancer whilst identifying as a different gender to me. Seems I'm not the storm cloud around here. Pretty gross to gatekeep cancer.

StealthSpinach · 10/06/2024 16:47

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How spectacularly rude.

AstonMartha · 10/06/2024 16:46

@MrsSunshine2b you might want to consider a name change as it doesn’t really reflect your personality.

MrsSunshine2b · 10/06/2024 16:43

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TheKeatingFive · 10/06/2024 16:39

DogInATent · 10/06/2024 16:26

Well... it has happened once..

Ovarian Cancer in a Man?
A 72-year-old man presented with left testicular swelling of 2 months' duration. Microscopic examination of tissue from left orchiectomy showed an intratesticular serous papillary cystic tumor with borderline malignancy felt to be histologically identical to the commonly encountered borderline papillary serous tumor of the ovary.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1941439011700629

That doesn't appear to be ovarian cancer however. Which makes sense given that he hasn't got ovaries.

curious79 · 10/06/2024 16:38

MagnetCarHair · 10/06/2024 13:32

I'm sorry, op. It must be distressing to be live with the riskiest of cancers and then see it dressed up in the language of gender nonsense.

This!!!!
so stupid. I am BRCA1, watched my mum die of it. Keep this shit away from me

AstonMartha · 10/06/2024 16:34

MrsSunshine2b · 10/06/2024 16:30

Trans-men and some intersex men can get ovarian cancer. In the same way, trans-women can't get ovarian cancer and intersex women without ovaries, or women who have had their ovaries removed, can't get ovarian cancer.

Less controversial would be "people with ovaries can get ovarian cancer." I don't really see why it would concern someone going through ovarian cancer what gender other people with ovarian cancer identify as. It sounds like you have much bigger things to worry about anyway.

What an absolutely twatty statement. You don’t get to tell op what to be offended by.

Spoken like someone who has absolutely no clue!

MrsSunshine2b · 10/06/2024 16:30

Trans-men and some intersex men can get ovarian cancer. In the same way, trans-women can't get ovarian cancer and intersex women without ovaries, or women who have had their ovaries removed, can't get ovarian cancer.

Less controversial would be "people with ovaries can get ovarian cancer." I don't really see why it would concern someone going through ovarian cancer what gender other people with ovarian cancer identify as. It sounds like you have much bigger things to worry about anyway.

Cattenberg · 10/06/2024 16:26

Not everyone is aware that men can get breast cancer. Let’s not confuse matters by claiming that men can get ovarian cancer.

DogInATent · 10/06/2024 16:26

Well... it has happened once..

Ovarian Cancer in a Man?
A 72-year-old man presented with left testicular swelling of 2 months' duration. Microscopic examination of tissue from left orchiectomy showed an intratesticular serous papillary cystic tumor with borderline malignancy felt to be histologically identical to the commonly encountered borderline papillary serous tumor of the ovary.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1941439011700629