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To think we shouldn’t have to buy our own blood pressure machines

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TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:21

Had a text from the GP surgery this morning to say that to re-authorise my HRT prescription I need to provide daily blood pressure readings at 9am and 6pm for 4 consecutive days. I rang the surgery and asked how I was supposed to do this and they said I had to buy a blood pressure machine (as if it was the most normal thing in the world). I was gobsmacked. Am I unreasonable to think I shouldn’t have to pay for medical equipment that I don’t want? Has anyone else had this?

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Sidge · 10/06/2024 13:40

@TangoTarantella the NHS menopause prepayment certificate. You can buy it online.

Also if your patches come off that easily have you considering switching to the gel?

gamerchick · 10/06/2024 13:38

Tbf they're handy to have in and they don't cost a lot.

Outnumbered247 · 10/06/2024 13:37

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 10/06/2024 12:28

YANBU

seem to pay more to get less service from the NHS these days, bloody Tories

🙄

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:36

To answer PP question, I’ve been on HRT for about 3 years and have previously only need to do a BP reading every 6 months which I did myself at machine in GP waiting room.

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TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:35

wurlycurly · 10/06/2024 13:13

There has certainly been a change in the NHS. In previous years, they wouldn't have had nearly as many of us on hrt. They wouldn't have been able to collect four consecutive day's blood pressure readings because that was unfeasible. Now we have inexpensive machines that can take the readings in our homes. It keeps us safer. I consider it progress. Hrt has also become a good deal cheaper. I pay £19 A YEAR!
If course there are huge problems facing the NHS. Not least it being sold off bit by bit. But the population changes, technology changes and the way we monitor our health changes.

How do you pay £19 a year?? I pay 2 x prescription fees every 3 months and also have buy extra patches online (as recommended by physician associate) because the patches fall off when they get wet so I need more than are prescribed.

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sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:34

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 10/06/2024 12:28

YANBU

seem to pay more to get less service from the NHS these days, bloody Tories

not really, if you need to get constant readings done, then it is so much more efficient for everyobody if you simply do them yourself at home

KennaThomas · 10/06/2024 13:31

Bodeganights · 10/06/2024 13:13

Every six months I was on HRT I needed at least one reading. I had something else wrong with me and needed a week of readings.

Given pandemic, it wasnt viable for me to see a nurse for the at least one reading, so I had to buy my monitor then.
Also used for partners high blood pressure. Has needed new batteries each year we have had it, so not a bad idea to have one.

I'm thinking about buying an oxymeter <<<spelling?
Because if you get a terrible cold or the flu or even a high temperature, your often asked about oxygen levels. They too are cheap.

Yes get one!

The oxymeter was lifesaving for us at one point. Helped us get urgent medical help when all other symptoms "appeared normal"

HerRoyalNotness · 10/06/2024 13:29

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:36

I don’t want a free BP monitor. I want the NHS to provide a proper service.

The NhS is not a magical unicorn that can provide everything to everyone. You have an easy solution. We have one at home which has proved handy. Take some personal responsibility for your health

Roundroundthegarden · 10/06/2024 13:22

TulipCat · 10/06/2024 12:40

You need to take some level of personal responsibility for your own health. If you can't afford to £20 for your own blood pressure monitor then say so, and either don't provide the readings or get it done at a pharmacy.

Exactly, help yourself a bit. It's useful to have one at home too.

Birdseyetrifle · 10/06/2024 13:20

Oh and we had a load of blood pressure monitors but patients just wouldn’t bring them back 🤷‍♀️

Sidge · 10/06/2024 13:19

Screamingabdabz · 10/06/2024 13:08

I agree with you op. My gp has often asked if I take my own bp as if that’s perfectly normal. I’ve grown up with qualified people doing it. It wouldn’t even occur to me to buy my own machine! YANBU.

Well in the olden days you couldn’t do your own blood pressure easily as it was done with a mercury sphygmomanometer and a stethoscope. No HCP would have expected you to do your own.

Not the case now it’s all electronic! Crikey some people can even check their pulse and oxygen sats vi their watch.

Times change…

Birdseyetrifle · 10/06/2024 13:18

A one off reading does not tell us enough. To get a clear idea of what your blood pressure is doing we need at least 4 days of am and pm readings.
If you are in HRT then this increases your really risk of hypertension plus you are at an age when hypertension can start to be an issue for people.
Untreated hypertension is one of leading causes of morbidity and mortality in the UK and world in fact.
You are moaning about the NHS yet it is doing exactly what it should be doing to help you prevent strokes, cardiac arrests, heart failure, chronic kidney disease and reduce your risk of dementia.
But hey you moan that they aren’t going to do those twice a readings for you for the sake of 15-20 quid 🤷‍♀️

Bodeganights · 10/06/2024 13:13

W0tnow · 10/06/2024 13:04

How long have you been in HRT? I’ve not heard of this BP reading requirement?

Every six months I was on HRT I needed at least one reading. I had something else wrong with me and needed a week of readings.

Given pandemic, it wasnt viable for me to see a nurse for the at least one reading, so I had to buy my monitor then.
Also used for partners high blood pressure. Has needed new batteries each year we have had it, so not a bad idea to have one.

I'm thinking about buying an oxymeter <<<spelling?
Because if you get a terrible cold or the flu or even a high temperature, your often asked about oxygen levels. They too are cheap.

wurlycurly · 10/06/2024 13:13

There has certainly been a change in the NHS. In previous years, they wouldn't have had nearly as many of us on hrt. They wouldn't have been able to collect four consecutive day's blood pressure readings because that was unfeasible. Now we have inexpensive machines that can take the readings in our homes. It keeps us safer. I consider it progress. Hrt has also become a good deal cheaper. I pay £19 A YEAR!
If course there are huge problems facing the NHS. Not least it being sold off bit by bit. But the population changes, technology changes and the way we monitor our health changes.

Wheeeeee · 10/06/2024 13:12

justfornow1 · 10/06/2024 13:02

Because the op said she needs it done twice a day!

Did you not read it?

I can read perfectly well. Were you so droolingly eager to get your snark in that you couldn't properly read my post where I suggested another solution could be that surgeries could have portable BP machines to lend patients under these circumstances, as happened for my Mum recently? So that the patient can take their own readings twice a day, using a machine that should be a reliable brand, without the need for appointments, buying a machine or visiting a pharmacy.

Sidge · 10/06/2024 13:12

That seems an unnecessary amount of BP readings. We ask for 3 home readings taken at different times for reviews.

Lots of people now own BP monitors. If you don’t have one you can use the ones in most pharmacies, or you might know someone who has one. We also have one in our waiting room for people to use but it’s sometimes out of action as people break it, or let their kids play on it 🙄

Its not unreasonable to ask people to check their own blood pressure IMO.

123Squirrel · 10/06/2024 13:10

I think it's fair enough as some people may already own one or prefer to buy a more advanced machine. As PPs mentioned it is possible to get BP taken for free just more hassle.

Though £20 is still a lot for some on limited budgets to find quickly and may need to pay for transport to get to free options, so perhaps the NHS could provide a lower cost option given their buying power.

I was sent a free BP monitor by the specialist as have to provide BP prior to prescriptions as the side effects are increased BP/pulse. I thought it was a shame they didn't check if I needed one before posting it.

Scarlettpixie · 10/06/2024 13:08

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:36

I don’t want a free BP monitor. I want the NHS to provide a proper service.

You could argue it is a better service to base their decision making on 4 days of readings rather than one. It is also more accurate to take BP at home as many peoples BP goes up when they are at the doctors.

A couple of my relatives were advised to buy BP monitors (10 - 15 years ago) and take readings at home for this reason. It isn’t a new thing.

I have had one a few years now. I think I bought it in 2020 because of covid and on a few occasions I have been asked for a recent reading during telephone apportionments. For example I can get my pill prescription with a telephone appointment now which is much more efficient (for them and me).

That said if you don’t have one and don’t want to buy (or borrow) one then there should be an alternative.

Screamingabdabz · 10/06/2024 13:08

I agree with you op. My gp has often asked if I take my own bp as if that’s perfectly normal. I’ve grown up with qualified people doing it. It wouldn’t even occur to me to buy my own machine! YANBU.

KennaThomas · 10/06/2024 13:05

Iheartmysmart · 10/06/2024 13:04

I got my own because I detest going to the GP and my blood pressure was always through the roof whenever they took it. At home where I’m relaxed and comfortable, it’s absolutely fine.

It's a right!

It's called white coat syndrome 😂

toomuchfaff · 10/06/2024 13:04

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:36

I don’t want a free BP monitor. I want the NHS to provide a proper service.

Just what exactly does this "proper service" entail in your eyes?

Do you want your blood pressure to be checked in centre by a professional?
Do you want to be given the meds without the blood pressure checks?
Do you want someone to come and check your blood pressure?
Do you want the NHS to supply you a machine?

Just what is it that you expect here that would give you "proper service"?

If you want someone to take your BP then ask the practice to arrange it - either by practice nurse or other fashion.

If you expect the NHS to supply you a machine then i think you have outlandish expectations of a free service that supplies millions of people for the price of the NI contributions.

Personally i'd spend the £10 and get myself the machine so i didn't have to go out the house to get the readings twice a day.

Iheartmysmart · 10/06/2024 13:04

I got my own because I detest going to the GP and my blood pressure was always through the roof whenever they took it. At home where I’m relaxed and comfortable, it’s absolutely fine.

W0tnow · 10/06/2024 13:04

How long have you been in HRT? I’ve not heard of this BP reading requirement?

ARichtGoodDram · 10/06/2024 13:03

C8H10N4O2 · 10/06/2024 12:53

No - its isn't necessary to take eight readings, if the OP was seen by eg the practice nurse or associate or practice pharmacist then only one reading would be taken at the annual medication review. The point of medication reviews is to review general health on that medication (or it used to be).

Considering the horror which is the general reaction to (reclaimable) appointment fees I'm surprised that this kind of non reclaimable fee for access to a service is taken so complacently.

A BP monitor for a healthy adult is not remotely comparable to having a thermometer for a child. Cheap BP monitors vary greatly in quality as does patients' ability to use them reliably.

A one off reading at the surgery isn’t a good review of general health, or an accurate measure of normal blood pressure.