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To think we shouldn’t have to buy our own blood pressure machines

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TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:21

Had a text from the GP surgery this morning to say that to re-authorise my HRT prescription I need to provide daily blood pressure readings at 9am and 6pm for 4 consecutive days. I rang the surgery and asked how I was supposed to do this and they said I had to buy a blood pressure machine (as if it was the most normal thing in the world). I was gobsmacked. Am I unreasonable to think I shouldn’t have to pay for medical equipment that I don’t want? Has anyone else had this?

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AllLopsided · 10/06/2024 14:16

It's ridiculous how much people expect from the NHS.

I'm in a European country with public/private health insurance model and I bought my own blood pressure monitor. And rented/bought numerous walking aids for use post-surgery. It's expected and perfectly normal that not everything is paid for.

However it is possible to have a routine surgery within a month of seeing the consultant, and a GP appointment without calling at 8am every day for two weeks, for which I'm grateful. Oh, and to go to A&E and be seen within 2-4 hours for a non-life threatening problem.

feelsbadouthere · 10/06/2024 14:15

There is one you can go and use in my GP surgery. We have our own even though all fit and healthy as i grew up knowing it was something to measure regularly (my mum was a nurse and used to do all of us with her massive machine and stethoscope). After she retired she bought a digital one and i have had my own digital one since i was about 30.

Btw - my bp is also on the low side and that is also a good reason to monitor it - there is actually stroke risk.

Do you get free prescriptions op?

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 10/06/2024 14:12

Our local surgery have some they lend out. But there is a waiting list. My friends on the list and is so far waiting 6 months, she genuinely can’t afford to buy one.
it’s quite a common problem.
the issue is, high blood pressure can be medicated quite easily and the cost to the nhs of not dealing with high blood pressure is going to be much higher than a few more machines to lend out

BobnLen · 10/06/2024 14:08

DH had to give BP readings at certain times for 4 days, there was no leeway and it was quite difficult if you are out, how are people expected to do this if they are at work in a factory or warehouse

wurlycurly · 10/06/2024 14:05

Sorry! I see you didn't lie the tabs!

JenniferBooth · 10/06/2024 14:04

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:42

No I suppose just some joined up thinking. For the last 3 years a single BP reading has been enough. Nothing has changed. I don’t have BP problems, if I did then I wouldn’t mind buying a cheap monitor.

I still think it’s unreasonable to expect me to buy a monitor when it’s of no use to me (and the results are probably of no use to them either). There’s just been no thought put into it.

Make it hard for you to get HRT saves money. I remember seeing the reaction of a few GPs on Twitter after Davina McCalls second menopause programme. They were angry about the appointments it would take up and the money it would cost. And like a PP said what about those who work. And they know damn well your BP reading will be higher due to the stress of pissing about like this. Makes me really suspicious

wurlycurly · 10/06/2024 14:04

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:56

FemSeven Conti. The Evorel ones were totally fine but I can’t use them as a sensitive to progesterone and can only get on with the type that’s used in FemSeven. Oral utrogestan was the worst.

I also didn't do well with the combined patch but now have the estrogen only patch and take progesterone at night. It has helped a lot with sleep. If the everol patch stuck well, I'd maybe try taking the progesterone separately

Bodeganights · 10/06/2024 13:59

Wheeeeee · 10/06/2024 13:53

Not suggesting that's an acceptable wait at all, but an ambulatory monitor is a somewhat more specialist bit of kit than what the OP needs, so not entirely comparable.

I was responding to the GP lent my mother a portable BP machine.

I'm pointing out that yes,they lend them out, but you have to wait. At my surgery apparently the wait is longer than 8 months. Not suitable for a quick BP reading you need every 6 months.

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:56

C8H10N4O2 · 10/06/2024 13:53

What sort of patches are you using?

Mine stay put in the shower or the pool, worth asking about more reliable /sticky patches (or more appropriate prescribing with some spares - you should not be needing to pay for medicines you receive on prescription).

FemSeven Conti. The Evorel ones were totally fine but I can’t use them as a sensitive to progesterone and can only get on with the type that’s used in FemSeven. Oral utrogestan was the worst.

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TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:54

Stanleycupsarecool · 10/06/2024 13:51

Your attitude towards spending £20 to monitor your own health to ensure the medication you have been prescribed for a very reduced rate compared to other countries show exactly how the nhs is totally fucked.

I bet you go to get paracetamol prescribed as well.

Of course I don’t. I barely use the NHS, only for my HRT. And I buy at least half of it online myself anyway. This is an unfair comment.

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BigDahliaFan · 10/06/2024 13:53

I'm immensely grateful that I bought one, I'm now on blood pressure medication and am booked in for an echocardiogram. It's £20, buy one.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/06/2024 13:53

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:35

How do you pay £19 a year?? I pay 2 x prescription fees every 3 months and also have buy extra patches online (as recommended by physician associate) because the patches fall off when they get wet so I need more than are prescribed.

What sort of patches are you using?

Mine stay put in the shower or the pool, worth asking about more reliable /sticky patches (or more appropriate prescribing with some spares - you should not be needing to pay for medicines you receive on prescription).

Wheeeeee · 10/06/2024 13:53

Bodeganights · 10/06/2024 13:45

I was told in Nov last year i had to use a ambulatory blood pressure monitor for a day. The surgery will loan it out, it's on a waiting list. I'm still on that list.

Not suggesting that's an acceptable wait at all, but an ambulatory monitor is a somewhat more specialist bit of kit than what the OP needs, so not entirely comparable.

worriedgal · 10/06/2024 13:52

@Stanleycupsarecool

Crossed posted but you said it much better than me

RandomButtons · 10/06/2024 13:52

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:34

There’s nothing wrong with my blood pressure, it’s always been slightly on the low side if anything. I don’t see it as comparable to having a thermometer for kids, that’s useful for potentially urgent situations, this is routine testing.

The GP surgery isn’t open at those hours for 4 consecutive days so can’t be done there.

So go to a pharmacy. It’s only for 4 days. It’s annoying but your health is more important than your annoyance.

Or stump up £20.

worriedgal · 10/06/2024 13:51

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 12:36

I don’t want a free BP monitor. I want the NHS to provide a proper service.

And this is why the NHS is on its knees- if everyone didn't have this attitude about minor stuff it would free up so much money for more services.

Stanleycupsarecool · 10/06/2024 13:51

Your attitude towards spending £20 to monitor your own health to ensure the medication you have been prescribed for a very reduced rate compared to other countries show exactly how the nhs is totally fucked.

I bet you go to get paracetamol prescribed as well.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/06/2024 13:51

ARichtGoodDram · 10/06/2024 13:03

A one off reading at the surgery isn’t a good review of general health, or an accurate measure of normal blood pressure.

You seem to have missed the second half of the sentence "one reading would be taken at the annual medication review."

The point is that an annual medication review covers more than just a BP reading. Its a review of changes, health etc with respect for that medication. The point of regular medical reviews was to reduce future load (and is precisely why insurance backed systems often include them - they save money over time).

Replacing them with three or four mundane self assessed questions and a self measured BP negates the point of the review and simply ticks a box. Just scrap annual reviews if that is what they are to be.

Incidentally any time I've had to supply BP its been absolutely that - one off reading at the surgery.

BobnLen · 10/06/2024 13:49

They used to give you a blood pressure monitor for a few days which gave regular readings until recently, Now it's all DIY and lesser, like everything else

Keepthosenamesgoing · 10/06/2024 13:49

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:35

How do you pay £19 a year?? I pay 2 x prescription fees every 3 months and also have buy extra patches online (as recommended by physician associate) because the patches fall off when they get wet so I need more than are prescribed.

There's a HRT prepayment certificate. https://www.gov.uk/get-a-ppc/hrt-ppc

Get a prescription prepayment certificate

NHS Business Services Authority contact number for ordering prepaid prescriptions for 3 or 12 months at a cheaper rate than single prescriptions

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-ppc/hrt-ppc

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:47

I’ve ordered a £10 one off amazon now. Thanks for the feedback. I posted to ask if I was being unreasonable and the consensus is that I was.

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MikeRafone · 10/06/2024 13:45

You can go to surgery and get blood pressure taken in reception, the machine is there for everyone to use

or borrow a machine from friend or buy a machine

Bodeganights · 10/06/2024 13:45

Wheeeeee · 10/06/2024 13:12

I can read perfectly well. Were you so droolingly eager to get your snark in that you couldn't properly read my post where I suggested another solution could be that surgeries could have portable BP machines to lend patients under these circumstances, as happened for my Mum recently? So that the patient can take their own readings twice a day, using a machine that should be a reliable brand, without the need for appointments, buying a machine or visiting a pharmacy.

I was told in Nov last year i had to use a ambulatory blood pressure monitor for a day. The surgery will loan it out, it's on a waiting list. I'm still on that list.

TangoTarantella · 10/06/2024 13:43

Thanks @sidge I’ll ask about that

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