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To ask school to stop sending me these texts?

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SquiglePig · 10/06/2024 10:51

I have 3 kids in same high-school.

They've started to send texts to parents everytime a child is late to a lesson, basically saying 'your child is late for lesson, please don't allow this to happen again etc'

My kids are never late to school in the mornings, ever.

It's my responsibility to get them into school on time, which I do.

I've had the discussion with them about getting to lessons on time but what can I actually do?

I feel like once they're on school grounds I don't really have physical control over how long it takes them to get to lessons even though I keep telling them.

Also it's not a text to my phone it's a text via the school messaging system which means I have to log in to see it.

I'm at work and I don't know if it's something important or not and have to check and I can get in trouble for being on my phone too much.

Please don't think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my children's behaviour in school, of course I do but I feel that I do not need to recieve a text every time one of them is late to arrive to a lesson when I've got them into school on time.

In my day there were teachers in the hall to usher kids to their lessons?

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Peaceandquietandacuppa · 10/06/2024 21:45

Can you talk to the school and ask them to only text you if it’s urgent, because is is disturbing you at work? Ask them to email you re. Anything non-urgent, like lateness.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 10/06/2024 21:42

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 19:53

Saying it would be a waste of time talking to lazy entitled parents. Most professions have annoying stakeholders. But treating them like adult humans tends to get a better response than speaking about them with utter contempt. What happened to home school partnership?

Discipline should be done there and then when the child misbehaves or is late. Do you give out detentions or was that back in the old days.

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 21:41

So issue detention if it's so clear? I just don't understand what you expect the parents to do that school can't in this instance, and why asking that question is some kind of abdication of parental responsibility? I'm not seeking to undermine school authority here, I'd tell my kids to suck it up if they got detention for this. I do sympathize with schools having to step into the parenting arena sometimes. It's just this doesn't feel a very good example of that.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 10/06/2024 21:39

MrsBurtMacklin · 10/06/2024 18:57

They can parent their children? It isn't groundbreaking. Give them consequences at home.

It takes a community to bring up a child. Where has the respect gone for teachers and police? I guess they are too scared to enforce consequences. If the community can't bring up a child then when they are adults and are out of control then the prisons will discipline them ain't that right.

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 10/06/2024 21:24

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 20:33

Meh. You're judging me very personally. I'm not sure my dc have ever been late for class. I've certainly never received any messages about it, so I'm not being defensive. I'm just saying that "parent your child" has become a bit of a refrain on here recently but I'm not sure quality parenting is necessarily synonymous with doling out knee jerk punishments off the back of automated texts.

But each time a kid is late for class, it's disrespectful. It affects the rest of the class. It affects their learning time and disrupts the lesson.

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 10/06/2024 20:50

There is no teacher to usher secondary school students to lessons! They have to get there under their own steam.

Hour often are your kids being late?

Instead of asking the school to stop texting, why not talk to your kids and tell them to stop being late?!

timetorefresh · 10/06/2024 20:37

Teachers can't be stood in corridors ushering. They are in classrooms teaching the kids that are on time. Start sanctioning your kids every time you get a text.

CrikeyMajikey · 10/06/2024 20:37

Support the school, parent your child and sanction them.

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 20:33

Meh. You're judging me very personally. I'm not sure my dc have ever been late for class. I've certainly never received any messages about it, so I'm not being defensive. I'm just saying that "parent your child" has become a bit of a refrain on here recently but I'm not sure quality parenting is necessarily synonymous with doling out knee jerk punishments off the back of automated texts.

Pootle23 · 10/06/2024 20:33

It’s very simple, each time you get a text because your kids think they are above the school rules of timing and roll in late, make sure there is a consequence at home. Keep being consistent and they will learn. It’s called being a parent.

Personally I’d be pissed off with my kids, not the school!

MrsBurtMacklin · 10/06/2024 20:22

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 20:12

Yeah this is what I mean. It's not parenting you're talking about, it's discipline, which in this instance I think is better dealt with in school, though it could be escalated to parents if there's a concerning pattern- but id expect a conversation to happen in this instance, including with the dc.

I'm sure the teacher has a conversation with each student each time they're late. Persistently late students don't give a shit. And their parents don't give a shit either it seems. You aren't doing your kids any favours by being too afraid to back up the teachers who have to deal with the result of your lack of parenting.

Cityandmakeup · 10/06/2024 20:19

luckylavender · 10/06/2024 11:00

Honestly schools can't win. Parent your children

This

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 20:12

Spinet · 10/06/2024 20:08

Behaviour management was a part of teaching last time I looked. So you are being paid to do that not parent your students. Parenting is a long ol' stretch and most parents know that picking your battles is a big part of the overall campaign. Some behaviour - like instances of lateness - is better dealt with instantly.

I do agree with others that a pattern of lateness needs investigation but by both school AND parents since the school are the ones logging the absences. For example my kid was getting absence marks from some lessons because she was at a music lesson and the teacher wasn't marking her present properly.

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Yeah this is what I mean. It's not parenting you're talking about, it's discipline, which in this instance I think is better dealt with in school, though it could be escalated to parents if there's a concerning pattern- but id expect a conversation to happen in this instance, including with the dc.

Spinet · 10/06/2024 20:08

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 10/06/2024 19:49

Act like what? I am a teacher, my job is to teach, not to spend 10 hours a day doing admin tasks because people like OP and you expect me to parent your children.

Behaviour management was a part of teaching last time I looked. So you are being paid to do that not parent your students. Parenting is a long ol' stretch and most parents know that picking your battles is a big part of the overall campaign. Some behaviour - like instances of lateness - is better dealt with instantly.

I do agree with others that a pattern of lateness needs investigation but by both school AND parents since the school are the ones logging the absences. For example my kid was getting absence marks from some lessons because she was at a music lesson and the teacher wasn't marking her present properly.

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 19:58

Also since when did "parenting" just mean doling out punishments left right and centre? For my DD it just isn't very effective and I thought the general consensus was that was true for most people. Is there anything else the OP can realistically do better than the school? I suggested a conversation to find out what's really going on but without knowing the layout of the school, habits of the teachers etc I'd have to take dad's word for it and the conversation might be better had directly.

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 19:53

Saying it would be a waste of time talking to lazy entitled parents. Most professions have annoying stakeholders. But treating them like adult humans tends to get a better response than speaking about them with utter contempt. What happened to home school partnership?

CammyChameleon · 10/06/2024 19:52

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 10/06/2024 19:41

And why would any teacher waste their time to discuss anything with a lazy entitled parent who is too busy and has important work that cannot be interupted (unlike, let's say, our lessons by ignorant lazy kids who are in school on time but cant be arsed to turn up on time to lesson), when the system can sent au atimatic text? Do you think I have the time to email 30 parents a day? I dont.

Part of the fun is I think, parents need to be inconvenienced sometimes to move their butts and actually do something. So annoying messages should be part of that.

What did teachers do when register was taken on paper and email/school apps didn't exist?

Why does a parent who works worrying about getting in trouble at work because of school's obsessive messaging make her "lazy and entitled"? Maybe she's just worried about her job?

Why can't your precious automatic system instead track who has how many late marks, so that the consistent skivers can get spoken to by a teacher/letter sent home/detention rather than harassing the parent in real time?

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 10/06/2024 19:49

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 19:45

Fuck sake, why do some teachers act like this? So contemptuous.

Act like what? I am a teacher, my job is to teach, not to spend 10 hours a day doing admin tasks because people like OP and you expect me to parent your children.

AllstarFacilier · 10/06/2024 19:48

We mark students late if they arrive 5 mins after lesson start. That’s plenty of time to move around the building and they can even fill up water bottles/go for a pee in that time. If they arrive after 5 mins, they get a L mark and a message is sent automatically to parents. Some students have L marks 6 times a day, so they’re missing 30 mins in comparison to others. You need to have a discussion with your children and see how they can all be so late often enough that it’s a detriment to your working day.

Magnificentkitteh · 10/06/2024 19:45

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 10/06/2024 19:41

And why would any teacher waste their time to discuss anything with a lazy entitled parent who is too busy and has important work that cannot be interupted (unlike, let's say, our lessons by ignorant lazy kids who are in school on time but cant be arsed to turn up on time to lesson), when the system can sent au atimatic text? Do you think I have the time to email 30 parents a day? I dont.

Part of the fun is I think, parents need to be inconvenienced sometimes to move their butts and actually do something. So annoying messages should be part of that.

Fuck sake, why do some teachers act like this? So contemptuous.

mumedu · 10/06/2024 19:44

pleasehelpwi3 · 10/06/2024 19:14

You're being sarcastic right?

Absolutely not.

TeenLifeMum · 10/06/2024 19:43

We get these but emailed weekly with a round up of the week. Never had a late to lesson and I have 3 dc in year 8 and 11.

Tell your dc to get to lesson on time and if you get any more notifications there will be consequences. Support the school with the conversations you can have at home, understand patterns and if it’s certain lessons etc. this is about working with the school who is providing you with the information you need to be able to help them deal with an issue that’s arising.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 10/06/2024 19:41

CammyChameleon · 10/06/2024 11:28

I think YANBU because really, you don't need to be automatically texted umpteen times, a teacher should email/call you for a discussion if your kid/kids have a problem with consistent lateness within the school.

As for PP saying "if there were something important, the school would phone"...not necessarily...

DS2's school had boiler issues earlier this year, involving kids being sent home as soon as they turned up (sometimes by bus/taxi), being told "it's fixed" then an hour later "it broke again" etc.

All the communication from the school was via the app - when I phoned the school about arrangements for DS2, they didn't pass it on and his teacher messaged me on the app about it!

And why would any teacher waste their time to discuss anything with a lazy entitled parent who is too busy and has important work that cannot be interupted (unlike, let's say, our lessons by ignorant lazy kids who are in school on time but cant be arsed to turn up on time to lesson), when the system can sent au atimatic text? Do you think I have the time to email 30 parents a day? I dont.

Part of the fun is I think, parents need to be inconvenienced sometimes to move their butts and actually do something. So annoying messages should be part of that.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/06/2024 19:36

What lessons are they late for

Is it a time thing so can't get from maths to history so always late

Are they in different classes and what age

Seems weird all 3 are late after you drop them off

What are they doing

Niveeaa · 10/06/2024 19:32

At least the school is doing something.

I'd give them a punishment at home.

My ds was regularly being late for school last year. The school didn't seem to care, I even enquired with his tutor if he needed a detention or two... nothing happened.

I started to ban the ps5 on evenings he got a late mark. He stopped being late after that.

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