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To ask school to stop sending me these texts?

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SquiglePig · 10/06/2024 10:51

I have 3 kids in same high-school.

They've started to send texts to parents everytime a child is late to a lesson, basically saying 'your child is late for lesson, please don't allow this to happen again etc'

My kids are never late to school in the mornings, ever.

It's my responsibility to get them into school on time, which I do.

I've had the discussion with them about getting to lessons on time but what can I actually do?

I feel like once they're on school grounds I don't really have physical control over how long it takes them to get to lessons even though I keep telling them.

Also it's not a text to my phone it's a text via the school messaging system which means I have to log in to see it.

I'm at work and I don't know if it's something important or not and have to check and I can get in trouble for being on my phone too much.

Please don't think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my children's behaviour in school, of course I do but I feel that I do not need to recieve a text every time one of them is late to arrive to a lesson when I've got them into school on time.

In my day there were teachers in the hall to usher kids to their lessons?

OP posts:
lilkitten · 12/06/2024 22:37

I think a different approach would be better. Every evening I go onto the school app to see if there's any positive or negative issues, if it's non-urgent more things could go on there maybe? I would obviously chase up anything noted on the app with my kids, but do we need pings for non-urgent/minor issues that can't be resolved until the child is home from school?

Sleepytiredyawn · 12/06/2024 10:21

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 10/06/2024 11:25

At my DC secondary, it's a straight detention for being late to a lesson. Without good reason, it says, but the kids rarely get to explain why they are late.
I've found after one detention each, they have stopped being late.
Is there no sanction on the DC at all, just the message to the parent?

When i was at school it was like this too. There was no text messaging then for every little thing. As a parent you can tell your kids to make it to lesson on time but you aren’t physically there, the school needs to give appropriate punishment and the kids will soon sort themselves out, you can only give appropriate punishment when at home.

My son is at Primary and the amount of messages some days are ridiculous and they can’t even get those right. I’d be pissed if I was having to log in just to find out they were late to class. Plenty of detentions, making them miss break times etc should do the trick. It’s not about not parenting your child, they’re in the care of the school between 9 and 3, surely they can hand out their own form of punishment.

Frasers · 12/06/2024 09:22

Personally I’d look at if another way, if your kid wasn’t late, you’d not get the texts, so work with them to ensure they are not.

DonnaBanana · 12/06/2024 08:51

I would firstly say stop pissing about on your phone at work. Turn it off! Stop wasting your employers time by dealing with your personal business when they’re paying you to do a job

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 12/06/2024 08:36

CrazyLadie · 11/06/2024 18:13

If you are getting that message then they haven't been to registration, I am pretty sure that's when your children become their responsibility. I suggest having a word with your kids and let them know this is not on and there will be consequences if it continues

Registration is at the start of each class, the kids are not late for school.

OP can have a word with her kids but I still think the punishment should be at school and not at home, as the behaviour is taking place at school.

Smeegall · 12/06/2024 07:13

This is exactly why we have so many problems.

if my child was late because they are pissing about in the corridor between lessons I would want to know.

behaviour is so bad, teachers are leaving left right and centre, but apparently it’s the teachers fault.

your school sounds brilliant - be thankful they actually care about your children succeeding, even if you’ve checked out because you don’t want to recieve an annoying text!

Bewareofthisonetoo · 12/06/2024 07:09

If only parents would do this.
And accept that actual parenting is necessary to raise kids who will be responsibly adults.
So many just want to outsource any actual interventions to the school.

Bewareofthisonetoo · 12/06/2024 07:07

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/06/2024 11:05

SwingTheMonkey · Today 10:59
Kids, I’m fed up with constantly receiving messages saying you’re late to class. Either start being punctual, or the sanction at home will be x, y or z…”

This. An evening or two without Xbox, hobby, whatever, they’ll soon be on time.

This!!!

PollyPut · 12/06/2024 07:04

"DC, every time you are late for class I get a message which I have to stop and check. This is happening far too much. Education is important and you need to make the most of school. Until I check the message don't know whether you are ill and I need to collect you, or just late for a lesson. This is affecting my work and it cannot continue as my employer is noticing.

What the are the reasons you are late? Do you need a watch? Do you need to go to the toilet earlier at breaktime? You need to be on time so can we please clear up now what is stopping you getting to lessons on time and then can you make sure you are at lessons on time in future."

No - you don't ask the school to stop contacting you. You make sure your children understand the importance of being on time.

T1Dmama · 12/06/2024 00:15

Also I wouldn’t check while in work. I’d only check during my break and lunch then after work.. nothing of great importance would be sent via text… they would phone if one was sick or injured I assume!

T1Dmama · 12/06/2024 00:13

SwingTheMonkey · 10/06/2024 10:59

Kids, I’m fed up with constantly receiving messages saying you’re late to class. Either start being punctual, or the sanction at home will be x, y or z…

This!
I’d be pissed off if I was getting constant negative feedback and I’d be taking half hour off their tech every-time they were late for class…
If you can’t enforce this then ask school to start dishing out detentions/restoratives where they have to make up the time after school!… school should have a system where 3 lates = hour detention..

OldPerson · 11/06/2024 23:33

You sound like exactly the same sort of parent who would complain if the school did not update you on your children's behaviour. Your children are slacking for some reason. Could be falling into bad habits or bad company? Want to be updated or not?

Supposedly, knowing your children best, you're in the best position to talk to them and find out why they can't make it from point A to point B on time, like all the other kids? Maybe they're being bullied or afraid of something? Maybe they don't like using the woke communal toilets while someone else is in there?

Your school has picked up on the fact your kids are out of line with the other kids - maybe you're curious to know why?

Because if your kid is being bullied, and you're relying on the teachers to just solve herding children from A to B - then all of you are being neglectful to the child.

JohnofWessex · 11/06/2024 22:59

beautifuldaytosavelives · 11/06/2024 22:54

For those saying the children need to face consequences, yes, they do - there and then, at school. Half the time pupils don’t know what mark they’ve had in terms of performance, punctuality etc - these automatic systems are taking away the true communication. Homework is set on a platform that self marks, behaviour points are doled out or taken away on systems that require logging on to and much of the burden is passed to parents. Only those children with invested parents are going to see any impact. Step away from the keyboard and invest in some real pupil/parent/school contact. And yes, before anyone jumps on, 1998-2021 as a teacher and leader. Didn’t appreciate being required to monitor so much as a secondary school parent.

Hear Hear

If the school think that there is an issue then I suggest that they need to identify what it is and take appropriate action, not send texts willy nilly

crew2022 · 11/06/2024 22:57

I think it says a lot that your response is to ask the school to stop sending texts rather than your kids to stop being late. Sort it out

beautifuldaytosavelives · 11/06/2024 22:54

For those saying the children need to face consequences, yes, they do - there and then, at school. Half the time pupils don’t know what mark they’ve had in terms of performance, punctuality etc - these automatic systems are taking away the true communication. Homework is set on a platform that self marks, behaviour points are doled out or taken away on systems that require logging on to and much of the burden is passed to parents. Only those children with invested parents are going to see any impact. Step away from the keyboard and invest in some real pupil/parent/school contact. And yes, before anyone jumps on, 1998-2021 as a teacher and leader. Didn’t appreciate being required to monitor so much as a secondary school parent.

Choochoo21 · 11/06/2024 21:38

YABU

I would absolutely want to know if my kids are regularly late to class because I’m their parent and teaching your kids not to be late is part of that.

The school is not going to message you if there is an emergency, they would ring you.

So if you get a message just ignore it until a more convenient time.

Jumpers4goalposts · 11/06/2024 20:34

I’d be questioning my child about why they are late to lessons so much not questioning why the school are messaging me about it.

Cas112 · 11/06/2024 20:31

Well sort your kids out then and you'll stop getting the messages

Is that how you've dealt with everything in life with them? Oh they've not misbehaved in front of me so I'm can't be arsed being responsible with them

sumayyah · 11/06/2024 20:17

Schools have to keep you in the loops about these things........ Because your their parent and schools can't cane children with bad behaviour any more
Heck, raise their voices these days and little Jonny's mum will be in school complaining next day

Why are your children always late? Chatting to mates? Spending an extraordinary amount of time hanging about the toilets or getting snacks?

My daughter has cerebral palsy and her senior school had 3 levels........ Never late to classes because it's not acceptable to turn up when you decide to arrive and disturb the class

Harleyband · 11/06/2024 20:05

OP should talk to her children BUT the schools should be able to discipline the kids, too. Leaving all discipline up to the parents means some parents will completely disregard the messages resulting in absolutely no consequences for their kids and others will take a very hard line. While this teaches children that life is unfair, it will do little to actually stop the problem of children being on late to class. I would be very annoyed if the first step my DCs school took in addressing issues of discipline at school was to email me. If as suggested in other posts, the email is informing you of a sanction then that's fine.

OldPerson · 11/06/2024 19:55

Oh please.

Sit down and talk to your children. If you've realised their behaviour is impacting on your ability to work. You should also realise THEIR TARDINESS is impacting on every other child's ability to work.

Tell them to get their act together. And if the majority of other children can get from A to B on time - Why can't they????????

Aprilmaymum · 11/06/2024 19:30

speak to your DC and make sure they know they can’t be late. Sort that and you will not get texts. Schools have so much to do they haven’t the time to chase children round who can’t get to the lessons

pollymere · 11/06/2024 19:26

Where I've worked a child would receive a sanction mark for being five minutes late (a C1) and a C2 for ten minutes (lunchtime detention). Your phone isn't pinging to tell you your child is late - it's telling you they've received a Sanction Mark. You might get a C1 for forgetting homework or talking in class and it would say that in a text instead. You are correct that SIMS automatically sends you (and the Form tutor) a message informing you about a C1.

In my last school these were demerits against Achievement Points so affected the student and their Form for total Achievement Points. Some schools operate a system that if you get three C1s in a week you get an hour detention after school. You need to find out why your children are continually late for lessons - is it a particular trigger-happy teacher or a long walk - or are they just getting there late after lunch? If it's not their fault you need to take this up with SLT.

beautifuldaytosavelives · 11/06/2024 19:14

This is absolutely symptomatic of schools utilising technology to abdicate responsibility and pass it on to parents. I went to secondary in the late eighties, where homework diaries, letters and phone calls were the only contact. I was self-motivated and my parents were involved but not enmeshed, which is what the constant involvement and responsibility passing requires. I’ll get my child there, if they can’t move along in time, give them a telling and if it’s persistent, give me a ring. Mine is about to leave and I cannot wait to delete the app.

SarahJane796 · 11/06/2024 19:07

How should a teacher ‘usher’ a child along who doesn’t want to go? We can’t touch them. Words fall on deaf ears of some children. Detentions can be issued but ultimately teachers have very little physical power to make a child move. Unless they are hurting themselves or others.