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To ask school to stop sending me these texts?

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SquiglePig · 10/06/2024 10:51

I have 3 kids in same high-school.

They've started to send texts to parents everytime a child is late to a lesson, basically saying 'your child is late for lesson, please don't allow this to happen again etc'

My kids are never late to school in the mornings, ever.

It's my responsibility to get them into school on time, which I do.

I've had the discussion with them about getting to lessons on time but what can I actually do?

I feel like once they're on school grounds I don't really have physical control over how long it takes them to get to lessons even though I keep telling them.

Also it's not a text to my phone it's a text via the school messaging system which means I have to log in to see it.

I'm at work and I don't know if it's something important or not and have to check and I can get in trouble for being on my phone too much.

Please don't think this is me saying I have no responsibility over my children's behaviour in school, of course I do but I feel that I do not need to recieve a text every time one of them is late to arrive to a lesson when I've got them into school on time.

In my day there were teachers in the hall to usher kids to their lessons?

OP posts:
sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:58

op, you realise Most children are never late for a single lesson, ever?

JFDIYOLO · 10/06/2024 13:57

Parent your kids. Teach them how to behave, respect for others, understanding consequences. You're coming across like a sullen teen whose behaviour is being called out. Deal with them.

VickyEadieofThigh · 10/06/2024 13:57

whatsappdoc · 10/06/2024 13:50

In short, the school is responsible for ensuring that the children get to lessons on time.

Please share your thoughts on how this can be achieved. The school will be so grateful.

I wonder if the pp envisages trained sheepdogs herding classes from room to room?

I'm also wryly amused by the pp saying "school should just issue a detention", especially given how often we get threads where a parent complains about their child being given detention because it makes life more difficult for them.

Wheresthebeach · 10/06/2024 13:56

I'm surprised the kids aren't getting detention as well. You need to be informed that they are being disruptive and there should be consequence from the school as well I think. Time for a sit down and telling them that they need to get sorted out and this should stop.

Obi73 · 10/06/2024 13:55

You need to tell your kids to go to their lessons on time, that’s the real issue here. If they do that then you won’t receive the annoying text messages - it’s not rocket science.

ThisBlueCrab · 10/06/2024 13:54

It is your job to teach your children manners. Put simply being late is down right bloody rude and disrespectful.

It would not be tolerated in the work place.

Stop abdicating your responds to parent your kids.

whatsappdoc · 10/06/2024 13:50

In short, the school is responsible for ensuring that the children get to lessons on time.

Please share your thoughts on how this can be achieved. The school will be so grateful.

NoTouch · 10/06/2024 13:49

Ignore the messages until evening (if something was urgent I assume they phone instead?)

The point of the messages is to keep you informed of your dcs disruptive behaviour issues.

How often is it happening, why is it happening so often, and what consequences have you put in place at home to support the school? Do your bit to stop them arriving late to class and you will stop getting the messages.

VickyEadieofThigh · 10/06/2024 13:48

TeaGinandFags · 10/06/2024 13:31

What it means is that the school assumes the authority and responsibilities of the parent whilst the children are at school.

In short, the school is responsible for ensuring that the children get to lessons on time.

OP, take this to the Local Education Authority and get this sorted. The school is being unreasonable.

If it's an LA school (rather than academy), they'd simply refer the parent back to the school. They'd tell her/him to use the complaints procedure.

But schools are completely within their rights to inform parents if their children are late to lessons. The parent's job is to ask their children WHY. Teachers know that some children have further to go to the next lesson, may have had games and so on. But they also know which children are taking the piss by arriving some time after classmates who were in the SAME previous lesson.

SatinHeart · 10/06/2024 13:46

LegalAlienated · 10/06/2024 11:05

I’d assume anything really urgent (like unwell child), they’d phone you for anyway, so I’d just ignore these messages until you’ve finished work.

Agree with this

LlynTegid · 10/06/2024 13:44

I'm with the school on this one.

Are you or your DH/DP people who are frequently late for things, do you set an example? Or are you like the former Arsenal footballer who had the captaincy removed because of his habitual lateness?

Richard1985 · 10/06/2024 13:42

In my day it was always the same 3 or 4 lads who were late to every lesson. They always walked in stinking of cigarette smoke with a flimsy excuse for the teacher to digest

My suggestion would be to confiscate their vapes for a week whenever you receive one of these messages

luckylavender · 10/06/2024 13:37

@TeaGinandFags - she can't abdicate responsibility

SuziQuinto · 10/06/2024 13:36

Why on earth would the LEA get involved?

TeaGinandFags · 10/06/2024 13:31

bluewaxcrayon · 10/06/2024 13:26

When the children are in school, the school is the parent. It's called being in loco parentis.

It doesn't mean the parent stops being the parent though.

What it means is that the school assumes the authority and responsibilities of the parent whilst the children are at school.

In short, the school is responsible for ensuring that the children get to lessons on time.

OP, take this to the Local Education Authority and get this sorted. The school is being unreasonable.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 10/06/2024 13:30

SwingTheMonkey · 10/06/2024 10:59

Kids, I’m fed up with constantly receiving messages saying you’re late to class. Either start being punctual, or the sanction at home will be x, y or z…

This is the correct solution to the OP's problem.

Namechange10101010 · 10/06/2024 13:29

TipsyKoala · 10/06/2024 11:17

The fact that 68% think YANBU shows why there are big discipline issues in schools now. YABU because it's highly disruptive to teacher and all pupils for kids to turn up late to lessons, so of course they should text you every time. It's your responsibility to parent your children and make sure they behave at school. The school is expecting you to do something about it.

It's not about supporting the school to tackle kids behaviour though it's about how the school communicate and I think that's a conversation worth having.

My previous job was a phones off at work job. I didn't because I have to be contactable by school and would have it on vibrate for emergencies. Like OP checking it several times a day for something that couldn't be dealt with until I got home would be a problem.

I would talk to school about how they communicate and maybe suggest you'd absolutely support detentions if it keeps happening.

DD's school use actual texts and emails for whole school emergencies. Achievements, behaviour points and random emails use to just come through the app, but they changed it last year so the child gets notified through the app and mum and dad get an appropriately titled email. Much better.

I voted YANBU as one of the 68% purely due to communication by the school. I absolutely agree OP should be talking to her kids when she gets home and supporting sanctions.

bluewaxcrayon · 10/06/2024 13:26

When the children are in school, the school is the parent. It's called being in loco parentis.

It doesn't mean the parent stops being the parent though.

SuziQuinto · 10/06/2024 13:26

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 10/06/2024 13:18

No worries, I misunderstood your post when you said about the whole class being on time.
You sound like a nice teacher who takes all of this into account, like 90% of the teachers at my son's school. There are always a few though who deal out punishments without speaking to the children to ask why they are late (maybe they just don't have time.)
This was not my son's only reason for not taking history. I was trying to be lighthearted and to say that sometimes kids do make choices for strange reasons. However, liking or not liking a teacher does play a big role with some kids and he is one of them.

Ok, yes it makes a difference.
Everyone is just trying to do their best!

TeaGinandFags · 10/06/2024 13:25

luckylavender · 10/06/2024 11:00

Honestly schools can't win. Parent your children

When the children are in school, the school is the parent. It's called being in loco parentis.

If OP couldn't deliver her children to school on time that would be different, but exactly how can OP police her children when they're at school and she's at work. The alternative is for OP to go to school with her dc.

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:20

CammyChameleon · 10/06/2024 11:28

I think YANBU because really, you don't need to be automatically texted umpteen times, a teacher should email/call you for a discussion if your kid/kids have a problem with consistent lateness within the school.

As for PP saying "if there were something important, the school would phone"...not necessarily...

DS2's school had boiler issues earlier this year, involving kids being sent home as soon as they turned up (sometimes by bus/taxi), being told "it's fixed" then an hour later "it broke again" etc.

All the communication from the school was via the app - when I phoned the school about arrangements for DS2, they didn't pass it on and his teacher messaged me on the app about it!

which teacher should be monitoring punctuality and contacting home? When should they be doing this? it is automated for a reason

bergamotorange · 10/06/2024 13:19

The school should give a sanction not just send you repeated text messages.

I think your job is to tell them to be on time and to support school's sanctions, but not to give home sanctions for minor stuff like this.

It sounds like school isn't managing things very clearly - if this is a big issue they should be giving detentions etc. and if it isn't a big issue they don't need to tell you.

Mostlycarbon · 10/06/2024 13:19

I would definitely want to know why my kid was being persistently late for lessons. It could be something like dealing with their period and not having enough time to get to the toilets over break time, which can be a problem in some secondary schools. It could be an organisational issue, especially for a younger age child in secondary school.

Or it could just be low level, persistent bad behaviour and the school needs you to reinforce that it's not acceptable.

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 10/06/2024 13:18

SuziQuinto · 10/06/2024 11:57

I am well aware about students coming from different classes, @Nicelynicelyjohnson .
I have 7 in my GCSE group who come from a different block
They're a couple of minutes after the others, it's not a problem. Please realise that whatever problem you have identified - we've already identified it.
If someone doesn't want to do a GCSE because they have an issue with a ks3 teacher, I'm going to say that defies logic, and I've no idea why someone would make such an irrational choice about their future rather than the parent contacting school and getting a solution.

Edited

No worries, I misunderstood your post when you said about the whole class being on time.
You sound like a nice teacher who takes all of this into account, like 90% of the teachers at my son's school. There are always a few though who deal out punishments without speaking to the children to ask why they are late (maybe they just don't have time.)
This was not my son's only reason for not taking history. I was trying to be lighthearted and to say that sometimes kids do make choices for strange reasons. However, liking or not liking a teacher does play a big role with some kids and he is one of them.

2mumlife · 10/06/2024 13:17

SuziQuinto · 10/06/2024 10:56

You have rightly discussed it with them, maybe the next step is your own sanction because your work is being disrupted.

This is a good idea.

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