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UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...

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PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 10:38

... how quickly things can fall apart!

I'm a self-confessed health nut. Love exercise, lots of walking, and my diet is normally supper healthy. Lots of vegetables, lean protein, a smattering of complex carbs, healthy fats and dairy/mostly yoghurt.

It has stood me in good stead. At 70 I am really fit and my health-MOT suggests a biological age of 53 or thereabouts.

BUT...... for the past 10 days I have had relatives staying with me who seem addicted to UPF, carbs and sugary 'treats'. They sleep till 10, so I've given my usual morning workouts a miss so as not to disturb them. No point cooking stuff they won't eat. Or we eat out at places with limited/no healthy options.

Slowly but surely I've fallen into a pattern of eating what they eat, drinking wine daily (as opposed to a glass once or twice a week), and taking the bus instead of walking.

And, even after such a short time I have gained weight, my belly is definitely more prominent, and my lovely muscles seem sadly diminished.

A salutary lesson. Use it or loose it. I wonder how long it'll take me to get back to where I was...?!!

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beergiggles · 11/06/2024 23:06

SoLo7 · 11/06/2024 22:57

I work with old people and it’s utterly shit seeing them age and struggle with their health. Honestly I would rather drink wine every day and eat what I want than live past 80.

Surely if you live that life of indulgence your health will just fail at an earlier age?
I have relatives (parents generation) in their 80s who are still enjoying life and they are the ones who've stayed active and looked after their health.
Up to you though, you pay your money & take your choice!

SoLo7 · 11/06/2024 22:57

I work with old people and it’s utterly shit seeing them age and struggle with their health. Honestly I would rather drink wine every day and eat what I want than live past 80.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/06/2024 22:50

Not all processed foods are 'UPFs' though, @Packetofcrispsplease - I wouldn't have thought all curry pastes would be, nor coconut milk.

Justrelax · 11/06/2024 22:45

Gosh some people have really gone crazy about this 'UPF' nonsense haven't they. I suspect it's people who spend too much time online. The rest of the world are just cracking on eating a bit of whatever they fancy and living normal lives.

Packetofcrispsplease · 11/06/2024 22:43

I don’t eat junk food and takeaway food is rare in our house .
I also don’t like fizzy drinks , and don’t drink alcohol.
I like the odd chocolate and homemade cake ( not necessarily made by me 😆)
But I do think it’s really tricky to completely avoid all UPFs if you’re short of time and you're the only person who cooks and cleans up .
Eg I might make risotto but I’d use one of those stock pots , i might make a curry but use a bought paste + tin of coconut milk

Redty10 · 11/06/2024 22:27

Hinkuy · 10/06/2024 10:41

Reaaallly? 🤣

Nothing wrong with UPFs - everything in moderation.

This thread does seem very much scare mongering though.

Are you for real?
there is everything wrong with UPFs!! Loads of research coming out to support this and take a look around you at the state of every country with a westernised high UPF diet

bringmorewashing · 11/06/2024 21:52

What a lot of weird replies on this thread!

I'm similar to you OP and avoid UPF and try to look after myself in general. It's about staying well long term for myself and family, and I just feel better when I eat proper food and move a bit. No idea why that upsets people! I hope I'm as active as you at age 70.

I live abroad in a country where eating well is a bit easier and more affordable. UPF exists but it's not ubiquitous/default. Whenever I visit family in the UK I also end up adopting some of their eating (and lack of exercise) habits - that's the food they buy and I'm hardly going to refuse it. At first I always find the UPF bread and biscuits etc taste pretty weird. But after a week or so I develop a real appetite for it, and then find normal food a bit bland for a while when I go back.

This type of industrially produced food is pumped full of salt and sugar and additives designed intentionally to get us eating more of it, so it's nothing to do with willpower sadly, for you or for the millions of people who eat it day in and day out.

Consider it an experiment and I hope you enjoy getting back to your normal routine.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/06/2024 21:44

Turquoise123 · 11/06/2024 20:38

I hear you .Also holidays ….you loose fitness so quickly

That does depend on the sort of holidays you have, of course!

Papyrophile · 11/06/2024 21:38

There's stupid, and then there's verging on suicidally stupid. This UPF is just really really desperately unhealthy. There's no reason to eat it.

Newsenmum · 11/06/2024 21:36

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 10/06/2024 23:26

These threads really depress me, i eat sugary crappy food at some point every day and battle with myself all day long to not eat more. I am overweight. I sometimes go a few days crap free but rarely. I keep hoping some day I'll get it right and I'll be able to have a little bit of what I fancy and leave it like that but I have never found a balance. The craving cycle just goes on and mentally its too much to argue with myself at 20 minute intervals for about 16 hours a day. I always cave. But it looks like the only solution is cold turkey and no slip ups to break the cycle. Yet the thought of not eating some of my favourites makes me really down. Life is stressful and tiring, my treats are often the best part of the day.

I agree that it’s really, really hard and that’s why I agree with the op. It is awful. Before all this processed and sugary food existed we didn’t have this problem. I’m not blaming you I think the op’s point was that she’s lucky not to have got into that previously.

SackofSweets · 11/06/2024 21:25

Re fruit being too sweet. Not sure I buy that. There’s a huge natural variety in fruit. Like berries out of season aren’t sweet at all, but British berries are sooo sweet and tasty.

Turquoise123 · 11/06/2024 20:38

I hear you .Also holidays ….you loose fitness so quickly

AlltheFs · 11/06/2024 20:12

Dramatic much!

It’s a bit of bloat that’s all. Get a bloody grip.

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/06/2024 20:07

Dramatic · 10/06/2024 10:49

I must be 😂 genuinely never heard of it

There’s a book Ultra Processed People by Chris van Tulleken.

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/06/2024 20:05

Hinkuy · 10/06/2024 10:41

Reaaallly? 🤣

Nothing wrong with UPFs - everything in moderation.

This thread does seem very much scare mongering though.

Well they are not great, tbf

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/06/2024 20:04

Dramatic · 10/06/2024 10:43

What the hell is a UPF?

Ultra processed food. Also see book Ultra Processed People.

cremebrulait · 11/06/2024 19:12

Hinkuy · 10/06/2024 10:41

Reaaallly? 🤣

Nothing wrong with UPFs - everything in moderation.

This thread does seem very much scare mongering though.

Nothing wrong with UPFs?

Are you having a laugh???

LalaPaloosa · 11/06/2024 18:42

It’s about your microbiome. You now now have bacteria craving that crap. Candida albicans. Starve the bacteria in your gut for a couple of weeks and they will die off. You’ll be back to normal soon enough

Mirabai · 11/06/2024 18:23

I buy Braeburn apples but it’s difficult to find pineapples that are not “supersweet”

OneTC · 11/06/2024 18:21

The trademarked fruit is sweeter. The standard priced out of season fruit tastes like potatoes. There is nothing uniform about it. If you don't want the super sweet just don't buy pink ladies or sundowners or whatever equivalent in other fruits.

Bananas haven't changed for over 70 years. They don't feed them to monkeys because of increased understanding of their natural diet rather than them becoming sweeter in that time period. The original commercial banana available until the 50s or so was significantly sweeter and we've had the same cultivar ever since

ashitghost · 11/06/2024 18:21

YABU self righteous and judgemental. Nobody has forced you to do anything.

Mirabai · 11/06/2024 18:16

Personally I prefer sharper and less ripe fruit.

Mirabai · 11/06/2024 18:06

FluentFatball · 11/06/2024 16:42

Fruit is definitely WAY uniformly sweeter these days than when I was young (and I'm only a young adult). I like it but my family and I have noticed it too, at least in my home country.

From Google: "At the Melbourne Zoo, the monkeys are no longer allowed to eat bananas. And the pandas are getting pellets instead of plums. In fact, fruit has been phased out completely. That's because the fruit that humans have selectively bred over the years has become so full of sugar the zoo's fruitarian animals were becoming obese and losing teeth."

I notice on the packets it says “supersweet” pineapple, cherries bred for “maximum” sweetness and you think why is that better?

FluentFatball · 11/06/2024 16:42

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/06/2024 16:35

I find fruit too sweet, it’s just the way my tastebuds are and not a judgement on anyone else’s!

I have a bottomless appetite for salt and fat though.

Fruit is definitely WAY uniformly sweeter these days than when I was young (and I'm only a young adult). I like it but my family and I have noticed it too, at least in my home country.

From Google: "At the Melbourne Zoo, the monkeys are no longer allowed to eat bananas. And the pandas are getting pellets instead of plums. In fact, fruit has been phased out completely. That's because the fruit that humans have selectively bred over the years has become so full of sugar the zoo's fruitarian animals were becoming obese and losing teeth."

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/06/2024 16:35

IDontSleepIDream · 11/06/2024 16:08

Sorry what? Even fruit is too sweet for you? This place is 🦇 💩

I find fruit too sweet, it’s just the way my tastebuds are and not a judgement on anyone else’s!

I have a bottomless appetite for salt and fat though.

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