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UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...

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PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 10:38

... how quickly things can fall apart!

I'm a self-confessed health nut. Love exercise, lots of walking, and my diet is normally supper healthy. Lots of vegetables, lean protein, a smattering of complex carbs, healthy fats and dairy/mostly yoghurt.

It has stood me in good stead. At 70 I am really fit and my health-MOT suggests a biological age of 53 or thereabouts.

BUT...... for the past 10 days I have had relatives staying with me who seem addicted to UPF, carbs and sugary 'treats'. They sleep till 10, so I've given my usual morning workouts a miss so as not to disturb them. No point cooking stuff they won't eat. Or we eat out at places with limited/no healthy options.

Slowly but surely I've fallen into a pattern of eating what they eat, drinking wine daily (as opposed to a glass once or twice a week), and taking the bus instead of walking.

And, even after such a short time I have gained weight, my belly is definitely more prominent, and my lovely muscles seem sadly diminished.

A salutary lesson. Use it or loose it. I wonder how long it'll take me to get back to where I was...?!!

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Luminousalumnus · 10/06/2024 14:06

I'm not suggesting the OP has spent 10 days in bed but your average senior (let's say over 65) loses 40% of muscle strength after one week bedridden. It's one of the reasons hospitalisation is so bad for them.

IrnBruLolly · 10/06/2024 14:02

LaMarschallin · 10/06/2024 14:00

I agree with PPs.

People shouldn't scoff.
Scoffing is definitely the problem.

Lol. It's like how they say the problem isn't that it runs in the family. The problem is that nobody runs in the family. 😭

LaMarschallin · 10/06/2024 14:00

I agree with PPs.

People shouldn't scoff.
Scoffing is definitely the problem.

EatCrow · 10/06/2024 13:58

I can’t imagine you’d lose muscle mass in 10 days OP.

IrnBruLolly · 10/06/2024 13:54

MasterOfCake · 10/06/2024 10:46

And losing your muscles has nothing to do with what you ate but that you stopped doing exercise.

What a strange thread.

You can't see the muscles if they're covered in chub though.

WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 13:54

I envy you OP. I am slim but I live off UPF and love them so much. There is so much around about UPF right now which makes me feel guilty but not enough to do anything about it.

Well done for your lifestyle. But I just can’t make the change.

I am sure you will make it back though.

If It’s that addictive, do healthy eaters avoid UPF completely? Like one Snickers and you are doomed, like some people with alcohol dependence. I could try and improve but could not lead a life without any UPF.

IrnBruLolly · 10/06/2024 13:53

Lol, so many narky posters. 🤣 Threads about fitness/weight defo seem to trigger the worst in some people. Usually the jealous types.

I hope I'm still keeping up the fitness when I'm your age OP. It's hard enough at 30yo.

I put on over half a stone at Xmas in only a week or so and it was hard to lose it. I did manage in the end.

Rainbow1901 · 10/06/2024 13:53

A few days falling off the wagon won't hurt you even if you may feel rubbish for it. But I can understand it though - just had 10 days away on holiday and although I ate better in terms of healthy continental food and salads but the cocktails were my downfall.
Never usually drink much alcohol but was with a large group of people who could certainly put it away and drank 3 or 4 times the quantity I did!! Couldn't be doing with the inertia and whingeing from the over imbibers around the pool the next day!! We can all enjoy ourselves but need to take the consequences of what we inflict on ourselves good or bad. If you enjoyed it what the heck - if not well..............

Trumpetpants · 10/06/2024 13:48

Hmmm, my friend does Slimming World. If she comes off an she has a huge gain, even in just a week. Her biggest gain being 11 lbs, but she loses it the following week.
I didn't know what UPF was either, but surely in moderation it's okay. But to be fair as a chubby chops who am I to say...

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 10/06/2024 13:47

Sorry - 10 days- bit longer than a week but still... your muscles will return.

stayathomer · 10/06/2024 13:46

That’s why experts (the ones I’ve heard and have heard it a few times), talk about’cheat days ’ and making sure to indulge a little etc. Your body ends up having reactions to everything and anything outside your new norm otherwise!!

And I’d say your relatives are not addicted- they’re staying at a relatives house- so it’s party time!! Forgive yourself and ease yourself back in and well done on all your progress- it’s definitely use it or lose it!!!

CowTown · 10/06/2024 13:46

You’ve hit a nerve, OP. So you’ve discovered that Industrially Produced Edible Substances, aren’t in fact, nourishing food. Onwards and upwards once the guests have gone home!

Thudercatsrule · 10/06/2024 13:46

RedRobyn2021 · 10/06/2024 10:44

Ultra processed food

Have you been living under a rock? I feel like the topic is everywhere atm

Im on mumset, and other boards and have never heard the phrase, so dont be rude.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 10/06/2024 13:46

Why and where would your muscles have 'gone' in a week? That is extremely odd. If you're a regular exerciser as you say you are then you'll know that any 'loss' is temporary and will be restored very quickly again.

But, if you just wanted a rant about the unfairness of it, having your routine broken, then I'm right there with you. When are they going/have they gone?

Shan5474 · 10/06/2024 13:46

The belly will be bloating, the weight will be water from increased salt and the less prominent muscles will be because you haven’t exercised and therefore don’t have a pump. Everyone deserves a holiday and even bodybuilders have them! It won’t take long to get back to your previous form, a couple of weeks won’t undo years/decades of hard work.

I am currently in a bulk/calorie surplus and I’m thoroughly enjoying a short spell of eating high calorie foods. UPFs are designed to be delicious or no one would buy them.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 10/06/2024 13:45

You’ll be fine OP.

A lot of weight gain like this can be eating salty food and water retention.

You do start to lose muscle tone after 4 days of not using your muscles, but unless you have been completely immobile over 10 days you won’t have done anything g too drastic. Do some planks etc before they get up.

MonsteraMama · 10/06/2024 13:37

I ate a whole, large double decadence pizza from dominos last night to myself (just checked and it was 3330 calories, cracking) and I feel like I've gained about a stone and look about six months pregnant, so I can believe going from super healthy to ten days of UPF garbage could make you feel like a hot mess. It really does a number on your body even in a short space of time.

You'll bounce back though, if you've always been healthy and fit it'll be easy to get back to it after only a couple of weeks off the wagon.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 10/06/2024 13:31

MeinKraft
'My lovely muscles' 🤣🤣 stop being a fanny OP

Muscles are something a 70 yo woman absolutely should cherish!

//

I'm only almost 50 and am proud of my muscles. I think they are very lovely and always notice them on other Ladies of a Certain Age Grin

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 10/06/2024 13:30

@PaminaMozart I have no idea why people are being so nasty on this thread?! (Maybe you've hit a nerve in them...😅)

I know EXACTLY what you mean though. I've experienced the same thing when staying with relatives who eat stuff like potatoes, bread with everything , white rice, takeaways, sugar sugar sugar. In fruit juice, biscuits and chocs every day, all couched as "a treat" but actually it damages you, leads to feeling low level crap without quite realising why, and is definitely not good for children so regularly.

Do yours also say "oh god you're so slim?!?" If you're just a normal BMI? Mine do, and I'm currently right at the top of healthy BMI.

If I don't eat my usual whole stuff and things to focus on gut biome, my body/skin/strength/mood goes haywire shockingly quickly.

I'm starting to realise anything under 3 miles a day of walking and my body seizes up within three days.

its so hard to explain to people who are still in the fog of UPF. I really wish my family would listen! I see the craving in my kids when they have UPF stuff (they have a 95% healthy diet but I allow everything because otherwise they would probably reach 16 and live on Monster energy drink and mars bars)

bunsnroses1 · 10/06/2024 13:27

Hinkuy · 10/06/2024 10:41

Reaaallly? 🤣

Nothing wrong with UPFs - everything in moderation.

This thread does seem very much scare mongering though.

I think you’ll find there’s an awful lot wrong with UPF. It’s not the calorie content of them that’s the issue, they are literally engineered in a lab using ingredients that have no resemblance to edible substances, to be as addictive as possible and cause inflammation and disease.

Read Ultra Processed People.

TheKeatingFive · 10/06/2024 13:23

Well just get back on the wagon OP, sooner rather than later

Todaywasbetter · 10/06/2024 13:21

So many people jealous - I salute you.

dottiedodah · 10/06/2024 13:13

Maybe just ask them over for a week next time! If they are going soon(Arent they like fish though ,go off after a few days?!) You can soon get into the groove again(not that dissimilar to going on holidays ? As long as you keep up your routine .Well done BTW I envy you !Need to get fitter ,sadly under Chemo ATM for Ovarian Cancer!

Waitingfordoggo · 10/06/2024 12:22

I get that it’s easier to cook one meal for everyone rather than different things, and if they wouldn’t eat healthier offerings then you’ve sort of got to suck it up and go along with the takeaways or processed foods to an extent. But I don’t really get the booze issue. I don’t like to drink but if guests come over, I will offer wine/beer which most will accept- I don’t ever feel like I have to join in with that so they drink their alcoholic drinks and I make mugs of tea for myself. It’s never caused a problem.

TrustPenguins · 10/06/2024 12:15

Uncooperativefingers · 10/06/2024 11:57

For those who are scoffing need to read Ultra Processed People. There are multiple scientific reports about how addictive UPFs are and how they act on your brain. Also multiple studies of how quickly people gain weight when eating a diet with a high proportion of UPF.

Some of the stats are terrifying (a 10% increase in UPF may cause a 25% increased chance of developing dementia) and there is increasing evidence that food is more than the constituent calories and defined food groups. There is a theory that is helps explain the obesity epidemic in developed countries, and why many diets don't work.

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