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UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...

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PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 10:38

... how quickly things can fall apart!

I'm a self-confessed health nut. Love exercise, lots of walking, and my diet is normally supper healthy. Lots of vegetables, lean protein, a smattering of complex carbs, healthy fats and dairy/mostly yoghurt.

It has stood me in good stead. At 70 I am really fit and my health-MOT suggests a biological age of 53 or thereabouts.

BUT...... for the past 10 days I have had relatives staying with me who seem addicted to UPF, carbs and sugary 'treats'. They sleep till 10, so I've given my usual morning workouts a miss so as not to disturb them. No point cooking stuff they won't eat. Or we eat out at places with limited/no healthy options.

Slowly but surely I've fallen into a pattern of eating what they eat, drinking wine daily (as opposed to a glass once or twice a week), and taking the bus instead of walking.

And, even after such a short time I have gained weight, my belly is definitely more prominent, and my lovely muscles seem sadly diminished.

A salutary lesson. Use it or loose it. I wonder how long it'll take me to get back to where I was...?!!

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Brrrrrrrrrritscold · 10/06/2024 17:30

I don’t know why everyone is so offended at your post, fucks sake. Most of them would probably rather buy ozempic than look at their diets.

UPF in general cause inflammation, so you probably haven’t put any weight on your just puffy. But I know what you mean. I have to keep socialising to a minimum for this exact reason. We are self catering in a villa this year to make eating easier too.

The reason so many people are overweight / obese is addiction. They make it like that on purpose.

Allfur · 10/06/2024 17:29

Love my muscles

Tinytimmy123 · 10/06/2024 17:23

Just ignore the haters op. At least you're in tune with your body and proud of it. I wish i was more like you !

Women are so horrible to each other, as if it weren't bad enough having men belittle us every sodding day because we aren't thin enough, pretty enough, tall enough, etc etc etc.

katerinaSofia · 10/06/2024 17:20

Papyrophile · 10/06/2024 16:49

Totally with you OP.

Same! I also eat like you do and nowt wrong with being proud for giving yourself a healthy body !

TowelTerror · 10/06/2024 17:11

I know exactly what you mean, op, and I don’t think it sounds like you are blaming your guests- you’re just giving the context.

iME you can get it back quickly- you’ll be feeling normal again within a few days of healthy eating and exercise. Unhealthy living is a vicious circle- eating crap makes you want to eat crap- so the sooner you stop the better. Booze in particular.

CharlotteBog · 10/06/2024 17:10

PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 16:59

When I used the term 'lovely' I was ever so slightly sending myself up 😆 but having them has made a tremendous difference to my strength and stamina - and my posture.

I work out most days with Caroline Girvan. Life changing and highly recommended.

I've heard very good things about her workouts. I don't enjoy working out alone at home. Fortunately I'm able to go to various clubs or swim sessions or get out on my bike or my feet alone or with others.
I spend my working day sitting on my arse alone in my garden office so my sport is also a very social thing for me.
People often remark that they can tell I haven't talked to anyone all day!

Brawcolli · 10/06/2024 17:06

OpenRoadYeehaw · 10/06/2024 16:52

Completely agree OP.

I am either on or off the wagon because of the way it takes hold. Said to my DH only yesterday that I need to treat it like smoking, only complete abstinence is the way forward.

it terrifies me how so many people don’t see it and believe this moderation bullshit. No wonder the food companies are getting away with it.

But it’s not bullshit for lots of people.

Papyrophile · 10/06/2024 17:03

IMO there is no safe level of consumption when it comes to UPFs.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 10/06/2024 17:03

PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 16:59

When I used the term 'lovely' I was ever so slightly sending myself up 😆 but having them has made a tremendous difference to my strength and stamina - and my posture.

I work out most days with Caroline Girvan. Life changing and highly recommended.

Muscles are lovely; even more so on women as we have to work harder for them and we don't tend to use 'help' to get them. I've been boxing (only with trainer) for 3 years and I prod my biceps every day (not in company), to remind myself to book in again.

Exercise- in my case - has been hard won. I hated it in school (bullying gym teachers/showers, etc.) and steered off it for most of my adult life but now I'm in my 50s and I wish I'd had the guts to start it up 30+ years ago.

WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 16:59

OpenRoadYeehaw · 10/06/2024 16:52

Completely agree OP.

I am either on or off the wagon because of the way it takes hold. Said to my DH only yesterday that I need to treat it like smoking, only complete abstinence is the way forward.

it terrifies me how so many people don’t see it and believe this moderation bullshit. No wonder the food companies are getting away with it.

So do you think it’s impossible to eat in moderation or that even moderate eating of upf is very bad? I am thinking about how to address this issue for me.

PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 16:59

CharlotteBog · 10/06/2024 16:52

I think my muscles are lovely. I've worked hard to get them (with a good dollop of genes which help).

When I used the term 'lovely' I was ever so slightly sending myself up 😆 but having them has made a tremendous difference to my strength and stamina - and my posture.

I work out most days with Caroline Girvan. Life changing and highly recommended.

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Lion1618 · 10/06/2024 16:57

For what it's worth OP, I totally get what you're saying regarding UPFs and how easily it is for healthy habits to drop off when your normal routine is disrupted. The good thing is that you have built up your lifestyle over many years so it will be easy enough for you to get back into it once normal routine resumes. It's a shame that as a society, we've lost sight of what our bodies are inherently designed to do and to be fuelled by. People who want to eat nutritious food which is as unprocessed as possible are being called 'orthorexic', rather than acknowledging that actually the system that we live in has completely normalised and often celebrates UPFs as an everyday dietary choice.
Well done for wanting to build and preserve muscle mass as much as you can. There's a lot of people thinking it's just for aesthetic reasons without understanding just how important it is for women to build muscle, whatever age they are.

abbey44 · 10/06/2024 16:57

Some really nasty comments on here.

I'm completely with you op. I’m 66 and try to give UPFs a swerve for my long-term well-being. They’re insidious and I believe they’re doing an awful lot of damage to people’s health which may not become apparent for some years yet. The more I read the research, the more it concerns me. I definitely think there’s a link between the explosion of UPFs and the increase in long-term health issues we see generally now. I’m not a saint, I do cave in now and then, but I try to be mindful as I can feel the difference within myself.

Good luck in getting back into your routine when your visitors have gone.

WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 16:56

I wonder if there is anyone who managed an ‘everything in moderation’ approach to upf?

I like junk food. But I do have willpower. I have never smoked, drunk alcohol or taken drugs. I can eat one snickers and then not eat other junk for the rest of the day if that’s what I really want to do. I don’t think I addicted as such but maybe that’s me being in denial?

Just wondered if there is merit in eating less upf rather than giving it up completely. Surely there is?! 🙏

LadyMuckRake · 10/06/2024 16:55

Well I agree, crap food is addictive if you go down that path. I have to consciously avoid it. I live healthy food so it's fine, but a "slip" can be hard to draw aline under

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 10/06/2024 16:55

I read somewhere that scorning UPF’s was becoming a feminist issue.

Women back in the kitchen doing everything.

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 10/06/2024 16:54

PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 11:44

I'm not proud of eating well, but it certainly was a shock to the system!! 😂

As I've tried to explain, thus is mostly about the intensity of the cravings and how quickly the rot set in.

I know I'll get back on track in due course.

I think I'll bail out of this thread now. As you were 😀

I’m totally with you on this. The older you are the quicker you lose muscle tone and the longer it takes to get it back.
I don’t eat junk food because I don’t buy it and having Celiac’s disease discounts the vast majority of temptation when out. But, good grief the amount of crap my sister hauls into the house when she visits is unreal, and yeah it doesn’t take long to succumb to daily treats and an expanding waistline.

OpenRoadYeehaw · 10/06/2024 16:52

Completely agree OP.

I am either on or off the wagon because of the way it takes hold. Said to my DH only yesterday that I need to treat it like smoking, only complete abstinence is the way forward.

it terrifies me how so many people don’t see it and believe this moderation bullshit. No wonder the food companies are getting away with it.

CharlotteBog · 10/06/2024 16:52

Catnipcupcakes · 10/06/2024 16:35

‘Lovely Muscles’ is just..urgh.

I think my muscles are lovely. I've worked hard to get them (with a good dollop of genes which help).

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 10/06/2024 16:50

OP, think of it as a food holiday and get back to the grind once they've gone home (if they haven't already).

Papyrophile · 10/06/2024 16:49

Totally with you OP.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 10/06/2024 16:48

OP, don't go, this is your thread. You probably have touched nerves because many of us haven't got it right with UPFs yet, and maybe never will?

I wanted to mention something. I bought a GLO salmon salad from Waitrose the other day, looked great, under 400 calories and it was really delicious. When I'd finished it I idly perused the ingredients thinking that I could make it myself and I saw GLUCOSE SYRUP on it, quite high up. I'm not sure if this is the same as CORN SYRUP but that is something that I've sworn against. Sad

I've attached the nutrition if anybody's interested but this bloody stuff is insidious and it has no business in a salad, surely? Wasn't a massive salad - 244g.

UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...
UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...
UPF.... WTF - I knew it was addictive but didn't realise...
PaminaMozart · 10/06/2024 16:45

To all those saying I could go for a long walk early in the morning, cook a healthy meal for myself in addition to the stuff they will eat, not drink booze, etc... Of course I could do all that but, after 10 days, and with another 10 days to go, my resolution and willpower have kind of evaporated.

As for not losing muscle in just 10 days - it has actually been a bit longer as I spent ages getting the house ready for my visitors. Probably the loss is minor and easily recoverable, but I'm sure I'll have to drop to lower weights for a while once I pick them up again.

Some posters have insinuated that 70 is quite old and I should just let go off my fitness drive and eat as much as UPF as I want. However, I don't FEEL old and I have no intention of 'letting myself go'! I can still ski like a woman half my age and I plan to continue doing so for many years 🤞

Eating healthily doesn't make me feel deprived. I don't normally crave UPF, but having started eating it I can see how habit forming it is. Looking forward to getting back to my veggies, salad and lean protein!!

For anyone interested in UPF and how bad they are, several posters have mentioned ULTRA PROCESSED PEOPLE. I'd also recommend THE SUGAR SOLUTION by Dr Mark Hyman.

Bon appetit!

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WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 16:44

Fraaahnces · 10/06/2024 14:39

I agree with you completely. I was given a medical “keto” diet by my neurologist to see if it would help my migraines. It worked for me (doesn’t work for everyone) and it also reduced inflammation elsewhere in my body. I had to have my wedding ring resized to two sizes smaller, and I can move the frozen shoulder that has been an issue since I was 9. Obviously I cook everything fresh. I avoid all grains and there are traces of them in most UPF foods.

Can I ask what diet this was. I have chronic migraines and Botox for migraines isn’t helping.

FluentFatball · 10/06/2024 16:42

Ok I promise I'm not being bitchy but you probably have a very poor metabolism (but great energy or discipline)! Despite my username I'm skinny with a trash diet (however I am trying to be healthier, not for appearances but to not die from snack overdositis), but even for a normal person I don't know how anyone would just swell up in 10 days?