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Teacher suspended for calling child a t**t

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pinkgin79 · 09/06/2024 19:23

In our local news today is a story of a welsh school teacher who has been suspended for 2 years for calling a child a twat. AIBU to think this is harsh? Is there more to the story?

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Irishmama100 · 09/06/2024 20:33

Until about a year ago I thought calling someone a twat meant they were being silly🙈🙈
I genuinely think most Irish people think
that is what it means. National radio presenter this week asked a woman on his show was her son a twat or a brat. He apologised at the end of the show for use of bad language as someone probably had to point out the meaning.

FawnFrenchieMum · 09/06/2024 20:32

JudgeJ · 09/06/2024 20:24

As well as being miffed, can we assume that you would make an effort to correct your child's twattish behaviour?

Absolutely! I back the teachers all the time when the kids break rules (or are little twats!) but still wouldn’t expect the teacher to call them if. Just as some of my colleagues are twats, but I can’t just call them that.

BingoMarieHeeler · 09/06/2024 20:29

God I would raise an eyebrow at that being said in the staff room/down the pub but definitely find that unacceptable within earshot of child/parent, in the classroom etc. It’s equivalent to dick/arsehole not idiot.

My sister calls her kids gits and even that really shocks me 😮

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/06/2024 20:27

C1N1C · 09/06/2024 19:25

Was the child a twat?

😂

Gallowayan · 09/06/2024 20:26

JudgeJ · 09/06/2024 20:22

I seem to recall Fawlty Towers being called Flowery Twats in one opening sequence.

Correct.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 09/06/2024 20:26

andjustlikethat1 · 09/06/2024 19:24

We have ruined the world with pc

Ooops quoted the wrong person, sorry!

Theonlyreasonwhyyoushouldbe · 09/06/2024 20:26

Twat means different things in different areas.

Essentially they’ve either called them an idiot or a c**t.

JudgeJ · 09/06/2024 20:24

FawnFrenchieMum · 09/06/2024 19:32

I’d be pretty miffed if a teacher called my child a twat even if they were being a little twat. It’s not appropriate. In the same way I’d expect to be sanctioned if I called a colleague a twat. Two years suspension seems extreme though so assuming it wasn’t a one off.

As well as being miffed, can we assume that you would make an effort to correct your child's twattish behaviour?

Barrenfieldoffucks · 09/06/2024 20:23

I expect higher standards from a fully grown adult in a professional role than I do from a half baked teenager.

BurbageBrook · 09/06/2024 20:23

Sounds like it was not a lovely teacher losing their shit on a one off occasion. Sounds like a pattern of unprofessional behaviour so, as an ex teacher, I do think the suspension seems fair.

JudgeJ · 09/06/2024 20:22

IseultHam · 09/06/2024 20:12

Twat isn't offensive it's just like twit here. Also used for 'stop twatting about'.

We do live near where the owners of Twatley Manor changed it to Whatley which didn't curry favour with the locals.

I seem to recall Fawlty Towers being called Flowery Twats in one opening sequence.

insidenumber9 · 09/06/2024 20:22

Good. Kick her to the kerb. I would if it was my offspring she was calling a twat. She sounds vile.

MorvernBlack · 09/06/2024 20:21

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In a way it is, people claiming its snowflake behaviour, although I did say there was more to it than one word in this case.
But I wouldn't have accepted twat from any of our kids and certainly would never use it in a professional setting or even jokingly, it is way more offensive than twit. Yet I'd jokingly call someone a daft bugger.

JudgeJ · 09/06/2024 20:20

DoreenonTill8 · 09/06/2024 19:37

Well I'd assume the school has similar policy for pupils who use similar language and expel them?

One would like to think so but we all know the reality! I once told a 14 year old girl to stop fooling about, her mother complained that I'd called her spoilt brat a fool!

Perfumefun · 09/06/2024 20:16

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IseultHam · 09/06/2024 20:12

Twat isn't offensive it's just like twit here. Also used for 'stop twatting about'.

We do live near where the owners of Twatley Manor changed it to Whatley which didn't curry favour with the locals.

Alittlefrustrated · 09/06/2024 20:00

I would of been suspended if I'd called a patient that.

AllOfOurGoodTimes · 09/06/2024 19:57

It seems like there was a lot more to it,

Mrs Walsh's behaviour towards colleagues was 'intimidating, undermining, derogatory, and bullying in nature' to colleagues, the committee of the Education Workforce Council (EWC) found.

harmfulsweeties · 09/06/2024 19:54

DoreenonTill8 · 09/06/2024 19:37

Well I'd assume the school has similar policy for pupils who use similar language and expel them?

What a nonsense take.

The teacher is being paid to be there and do their job. Part of that job is to be professional. Not call their pupils twats. He/she is also an adult who should be able to control what words they use.

They are held to a different and higher standard than pupils because guess what? They're adults and being paid to be there and do their job. A child isn't an adult (obviously) and so shouldn't be held to the same standard.They're also not being paid to be there.

If I called a colleague or customer that-I'd expect to lose my job so I don't do it. And it sounds like this isn't the first complaint against this teacher-she's had multiple against her from what others have posted.

I'm not sure why we think adults should be able to talk to children whatever way they feel like and get away with it. Obviously-there's a difference between a jokey, "Oh, you've forgotten your PE kit again, you twat," to a sixteen year old if you have that camaraderie already built to where they know it's a joke (it's still mildly inappropriate) and someone outright calling a pupil a twat in seriousness.

MorvernBlack · 09/06/2024 19:53

Obviously there was more to it, as mentioned above.
But I do think there's a regional divide to the word twat. My nieces down south seem to use it as if it's equal to twit, kind of silly Billy level. Whereas I grew with it being one step short of cunt, if we were trying to be smart as kids we'd answer back that it was a pregnant fish, but we'd still get an ear bashing.

Gallowayan · 09/06/2024 19:51

Wonder if it was one of those schools where you will soon have to pay VAT to educate the little .....

Perfumefun · 09/06/2024 19:50

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RosaRoja · 09/06/2024 19:48

Do you remember the Tory Education Secretary Andrea Jenkins giving the finger to people outside Downing Street? Is she up for election in your area?

Teacher suspended for calling child a t**t
Fargo79 · 09/06/2024 19:47

BlackBean2023 · 09/06/2024 19:33

Yes, but you could go and get another job.

This is a massive overreaction unless there's a back story. I hold a senior exec position in a MAT and can categorically say that if this was an isolated incident in a secondary school it would be a written warning. In a primary school possibly a final warning or a strong recommendation to resign but we would not refer this to TRA for a misconduct hearing.

No wonder no one wants to be a bloody teacher!

So can the suspended teacher. Just probably not another teaching job.

I highly doubt that "no one wants to be a bloody teacher" because they're not allowed to call their students twats.

Her behaviour was wildly unprofessional and unacceptable. Unless there are some hugely mitigating circumstances (which doesn't appear to be the case) then she just isn't the calibre of person who should be employed in such a responsible and trusted position.

Teachers are really getting a raw deal at the moment and there are a million and one things that need to change in our education system to support them. However, teachers are just people and not every teacher is up to the job. It's absolutely correct that the ones who are far below standard are shown the door. The impact on children who are at the mercy of abusive or just substandard teachers is immense. If we recognise the lifelong impact that an excellent teacher can have on a child, we have to also acknowledge that the same is true of the few who abuse that trusted position.

Perfumefun · 09/06/2024 19:44

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