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To jack in my ‘good graduate job’ and change direction at 24?

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BitterAndJaded · 09/06/2024 07:40

I was extremely fortunate to fall into ‘a good graduate job’ straight after a Masters at the age of 22. I’d done some work experience there and was offered the position without having to apply or even look at anything else. Totally unlike everyone else I know who went to masses of assessment centre days and interviews only to receive multiple rejections, meanwhile having to do low level work in bars and call centres to support themselves.

Honestly though, two years in I’m hating it. The work involves doing research for the public sector and it simply isn’t anything I have any interest in at all. I spend whole days in a room on my own crunching statistics and it is mind-numbing. I truly feel like I am starting to become depressed as I am losing the motivation even to get out of bed in the morning. I doubt I am ever going to be able to get significant promotion here as I just can’t seem to get engaged with it at all (not that there’s potential to ever make big money anyway).

Admittedly I took the job partly because it meant being able to stay on in the small town where I’d studied. At the time this seemed very attractive as I felt settled here and was slightly in love with it. However all my friends have now moved on for jobs elsewhere (mostly London which I confess I find daunting), my student boyfriend and I are ancient history, I’m no longer part of the university scene and there’s not really a lot else. Dating prospects are frankly crap as it’s so small and the demographic is just all wrong (mostly older people who are already settled basically, other than a handful of PhD students).

My parents have been devastated though when I’ve talked about wanting to move on. They think of me as nicely settled here and onto something good. When I tell them how incredibly dull I find the work they say I am expecting too much. My generation’s expectation that jobs should ‘feed our souls’ is unrealistic. My father stayed in a job for over 25 years which he never much liked so that he could support us all, yet he didn’t complain. It would be realistic to think I could manage to buy a flat here in a few more years which would not be the case in London or many other places. Isn’t it worth hanging on for that?

Yet there are moments where I wonder whether I can keep going even one more day here. AIBU?

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Rebootnecessary · 09/06/2024 10:50

Careers evolve, they don’t start and end with the ‘good grad job’ you get at the age of 22. If you were my daughter I would be encouraging you to think broadly.

You are well educated and you have some experience under your belt.

I get that London seems daunting - my own daughter felt the same and now she’s taken the leap it’s all turned out ok. As others have said, London is full of young professionals sharing houses or flats and working out what they want their life to look like.

Join LinkedIn if you’re not on there already, check out what your friends and uni colleagues are doing and how did they get there. Use contacts - my daughter took 2 weeks annual leave from her job and spent the time doing some work experience in a company she thought she might like to work for. They offered her a permanent job and she’s glad she took a leap of faith.

PinkiOcelot · 09/06/2024 10:49

If you were my daughter, I’d be telling you that you’re only 24 and should be following your dreams. You’re far too young to be feeling like that going in to work every day considering you probably won’t have a retirement age!

I probably wouldn’t just Jack it in, I would look around for something else, maybe study for something else. Have a good think about what direction you want to go in. Good luck OP. The world is your oyster!

rookiemere · 09/06/2024 10:43

The other thing you could do is move in a different direction.

Good data analysis skills are relevant for lots of careers in the private sector, often with good long term financial prospects.Cybersecurity for example is a growth industry and they are trying to increase the number of women in the sector, I managed to get a free place on a uni accredited evening course for this in Scotland, there may be other opportunities elsewhere.

Superstoria · 09/06/2024 10:40

There’s a huge shortage of Ed Psychs in the public sector. I’d pursue that in your position. Start finding out what the training options are- do your local LA sponsor student EPs?

And also- get yourself on Bumble, have a few dates, see what happens. And join a hobby group. Running? Singing? Knitting? Get out and start making the most of the life you’ve got now whilst also making plans for the one you want.

TowelTerror · 09/06/2024 10:39

Psychology could be helpful in marketing/advertising, if that’s of interest at all.

Startingagainandagain · 09/06/2024 10:36

At 24 you really don't need to be stuck for life in a job you hate and a town that no longer meets your need...

It is much easier to change direction when you are young.

I don't think you should aim to stay in a job you hate for 25 years like your father did. That's soul destroying and not something that most people do anyway in the current job market.

Your parents seems to be guilt-tripping you and being 'horrified' and 'devastated' because you simply want to choose your own career, explore your options and live your own life is completely over the top.

Springwatch123 · 09/06/2024 10:32

Life’s too short… .

Don’t rush, do your research and find out what you want to do. Are your skills transferable to a more attractive job?

Don’t be intimidated by going for a graduate job. Your work experience may be beneficial. I know graduates who are now school leaver apprentices schemes.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 09/06/2024 10:30

Run to, not from. If you don’t, you could end up making a massive mistake. I changed my career at 24 and whilst it’s never made me rich I have had an enjoyable 26 years making a difference. I decided what I liked about old job and what I wanted to be able to do in the new job and off I went.

What do you currently do? Why did that attract you in the first place? What would you like to do now?

Do not impose false constraints upon yourself- at 24 you can go off and do (almost) anything.

Think about what motivates you and what you hate.

There’s no such thing as a perfect job but there are jobs what will suit you more than this one.

BitterAndJaded · 09/06/2024 10:29

I’d strongly advise against a PGCE. Teaching is brutal in terms of workload and stress levels and won’t improve your quality of life.

Yes I hear this a lot about PGCEs which is sad. Again my parents are out-of-date and think it is a nice family-friendly career with holidays off, etc. I’m also looking at ed psych. It seems that, whilst no longer an actual requirement, a PGCE is still the best route into this? I’m aware that’s no breeze either and is extremely competitive. Yet I feel more motivated by that than a civil service role.

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AStepAtaTime · 09/06/2024 10:29

@Ponoka7

Go on city breaks, especially up North. It isn't grim up here (I'm in Liverpool) and houses are affordable. There's also lots of fit men. You have no commitments and qualifications that mean you can earn well. You've got to forge your own life.

😆This is excellent advice. The North is beautiful in parts, housing is cheaper (generally speaking) & yes, there are indeed some fit men there.

rookiemere · 09/06/2024 10:23

The other thing I would say is rereading your posts, is that you are clearly very good at what you do, to be offered a role without interviewing and for your boss to clearly want to keep and develop you despite your obvious reservations about the role.

I do wonder how much of this is general life ennui rather than specifically about the job itself.

As I say, book yourself an adventure holiday as a way to dip your toes into what travelling feels like. Then start applying for other roles stilling your inner critic. If you don't get interviews fine, take another approach, but the only point you need to decide if you genuinely want a role or not is when it is offered, and then your gut will tell you loud and clear if it's the right thing for you or not.

FrostyMorn · 09/06/2024 10:21

Bjorkdidit · 09/06/2024 09:30

The OP isn't terrified in the conventional sense, eg being chase through the forest by a stranger. 'Terrified' appears to be a synonym for 'mildly worried' for the young.

Yes, I know that. I was simply using her wording. "The thought of starting over completely feels terrifying though."
Although I'd add she sounds more that "mildly worried".

MojoMoon · 09/06/2024 10:19

What is daunting about London?

You said lots of uni friends have moved there so you already have a social starting point.

London is full of 20 somethings in flat shares so you can find a place to live easily.

The job market was graduates with good quantitative degrees really isn't that bad and besides, you now have two years work experience.

Don't rush into living in a quiet small town just because you can buy a house there. Enjoy your youth. Have adventures. Go travelling. Live with some weird housemates. Get lost. Go to a sticky floor dark cellar dive bar. Get a tattoo. Date a handsome but unavailable artist.

You have a decade or more to do that before having a family.

Time to cut the apron strings a bit and be less influenced by what your parents think. They love you but they are flawless, all-knowing super humans. They look at you through the eyes of what they want, not what you want.

LameBorzoi · 09/06/2024 10:17

BitterAndJaded · 09/06/2024 09:01

Thanks everyone. I suppose I naively thought myself when I was first offered the job that I’d hit the jackpot. My life was sorted, I could stay and work my way up here and completely avoid that awful phase of having to go for masses of demoralising interviews whilst working evenings in a pub. In some ways my lifestyle here is very good. The flat is nice, I can walk into town, yet I also have a car and can drive to work and park right outside. In London I’d realistically be out on a limb somewhere fairly grotty with a long commute in on the tube probably.

If I were still with my ex and we were in a position to buy a flat here together in the not too distant future (which once upon a time seemed like a possibility) I think things would be different and I could tolerate the job. We could do things together and go on trips, which would make work life feel less important. It would be an atttactive place to raise a family eventually and I could focus on that. Does that sound crazy?

Well, in a way you are sorted. You have skipped that phase. You have a good job, and you are at a prime time in your career to move on. You've got an income to live on while you research and apply for the next step.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 09/06/2024 10:11

Is your job office based? Could you move with it? Sorry if I missed that in your posts.

LameBorzoi · 09/06/2024 10:07

youreonmute123 · 09/06/2024 07:51

2 years work experience in your first job is the perfect time to leave and you’ll find it much easier to get another job with that on your CV. Your 20s is the perfect time to move around and find the industry and role that suits. We take on about 10 grads a year and only 2/3 are still here after a few years.
Sounds like you have lots of transferable skills, have you looked into market research (much more exciting than public sector research) or data science/analytics type roles.

This! Now is a great time to be looking for your next job.

You don't stick on one job for your whole career these days. It's just not how it works for most people!

crosspatchdownthehatch · 09/06/2024 10:02

Did you grow up in quite a cautious family, OP? There’s a lot of ‘it might be hard’ and ‘that awful phase’ etc. 24 is a perfect age to apply for tons of things, have lots of interviews, investigate different routes. Has it occurred to you that pulling pints or serving wine in a nice well chosen bar or gastro pub normally results in meeting a wide range of other people around the same age and stage? You don’t have to work in a massive Wetherspoons or boring old man pub. I earned a ton and learned a ton by waiting tables here, there and everywhere, with the added benefit of learning all the social skills of how to behave when I then was using high-end restaurants for work lunches etc - I always felt comfortable and at home!

This is the perfect age to start throwing things against the wall and see what sticks, and I’d agree that civil service would sound ideal for you as there are SO many potential careers within it and moving jobs and departments is often encouraged. If London is too daunting, they hire in Liverpool, Belfast, Edinburgh, Manchester, and about a million other places. It’s also a safe and secure career, which it sounds like you’ve been brought up to think is paramount.

Also, to allay your own and your parents fears, don’t think ‘oh but what if I went to Liverpool (or wherever), is that really where I want to be forever??!!’. It’s okay to take a punt, get a job, get a house share with other young professionals (who may have nice friends you might want to date) then move on in two years time. Now is the time, you have no ties. Don’t be scared of taking risks, trying new things, going new places. Break it down into chunks, do one bit at a time.

Blarn · 09/06/2024 10:00

There are many places other than London as well. You say public sector, are you properly Civil Service? Have a look on the recruitment site at what other roles there are, you will find loads not in London, there is a real push to move to other parts of the country tbh.

Don't rashly give up your job and move. But you are 24, at the very start of your working life! Travel, move towns, change jobs, you can do all these things.

JuicyPears6 · 09/06/2024 10:00

To me it sounds like you need new hobbies & interests outside of work

I would suggest some volunteering & joining some hobby groups where you meet new people.
This is how I have met more people.

Do you have any uni friends or old flat mates that you can go & visit ?

Secondly, this is your life, it is nothing to do with your parents.

mountaingoatsarehairy · 09/06/2024 09:56

Seems a lot about your parents and keeping them happy in your posts.

stop talking to them about it. You are allowed to travel and to change jobs and live in London. Don’t let their expectations stop you. Say ‘thanks but it is my life and I will handle the regrets’

at 22 your life sounds very boring! Get a plan together to re train or travel or move to London. Start today !!!! This time next year your life could be wildly different !

TheMadGardener · 09/06/2024 09:54

What do you like doing? What are your interests and hobbies?

You are so young and have plenty of time to train for something completely different.

I am boring and have only ever worked in education, but have friends who have had such a wide variety of jobs.

Friend 1 - was arty at school, did an art course, then stage design and worked in theatre, then did office/secretarial jobs, then worked in hospitality. Ten years ago she trained to be a paramedic and she loves it, has finally found her niche.

Friend 2 - musical family, did music teaching degree but just didn't enjoy the career. Switched completely and trained as a midwife, worked in NHS for about 10 years, got married, had kids, got divorced. Aged nearly 40, trained to be a member of the clergy and is now happily the priest-in-charge of a group of country churches.

You may find yourself at 40 on a completely different path to the one you are on now. You only have one life, don't waste it in a job you hate just to please your parents. You are the perfect age to train for anything new.

Osllo · 09/06/2024 09:53

I'd take 6 months out, do some travelling, see some of the world, meet new people. On return look for jobs in Northern cities. Or do your sums and see if you could make London work.

24 years old is way too young to be committed to a boring job and lifestyle.

FishStreet · 09/06/2024 09:52

ginasevern · 09/06/2024 09:03

Could you train to become a therapist? Everyone I speak to (and almost everyone on Mumsnet!) seems to have seen or be seeing a therapist so there's obviously a big demand. You could go self employed or, presumably, there are positions within the NHS and other large organisations.

I see a therapist. I’m a woman in my fifties with four degrees who has lived and worked all over the world , have a demanding career, a son and husband, a lot of complex life experiences including some traumatic ACEs. What on earth could a naive 24 year old who gives a lot of weight to her parents’ opinions bring to me as a therapist?

OP, your life currently sounds extremely depressing, and I definitely think you should change it. Stop listening to your parents — if I’d listened to mine I’d have left school at 15 and done hairdressing and believed ‘university is only for posh people ’. And while I agree with pps that you should use your current job to its utmost while planning your next step, building up a fund to carry you through etc, I think you should also think about the fact that you chose this because it was easy and avoided change, difficulty, uncertainty, effort and new experiences. You’re 24. This is the time to embrace uncertainty, newness.

(Also, I think you should think about why it wasn’t obvious to you that staying on in your student town after graduation was always going to be demoralising?)

rookiemere · 09/06/2024 09:51

It definitely sounds like the job is not for you. I read the description and I would love to be doing something like that, but you either have a passion for numbers and stats or you don't.

It sounds like it's not just the job that you're struggling with though, it's living in a small town and settling with your DPs ambitions rather than your own.

Why don't you book yourself on an Exodus type adventure holiday with other young people to somewhere far flung for a couple of weeks? It sounds like you really need to start stretching your boundaries and a holiday is a safe way to do that.

I would worry slightly with the TEFL that you're throwing away everything and it doesn't sound with the PGCE that it's something you particularly want to do.

The other thing I would say - and I am probably closer to your DPs age than yours - is that whilst it's important not to do a job you hate, there is something in the compromise of doing what you love and paying the bills. Some lucky people do what they love, the rest of us do something we're good at and don't hate. I am not saying you should stay in current job though.

Turmerictolly · 09/06/2024 09:51

What about retraining in something like Occupational Therapy or as a Physiotherapist? So many different roles, job shortages in most places. A fairly decent salary once you have a few years experience £50K in London but more in private organisations and some potential for private practice too.

Physio teams tend to have quite a few young male workers too so there might be social/romantic opportunities. Also it's a role where you feel you are doing some good for people so can be personally fulfilling too.