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To want to do something with just my kids?

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LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 00:05

I want to take my kids away in the 6 weeks… either abroad for 4-5 nights or somewhere in the UK. Most likely abroad to somewhere like Spain or France.

Husband won’t be coming as he is working and self employed so if he doesn’t work, he doesn’t get paid but he’s more then happy for me to go with our 2 kids.

However, he has asked if I would take his DD (my DSD) and Iv said no, I would like to just take our kids and spend some quality time with them. Hes accepted this and nothing else was said about it but DSD has heard from her sister that she’s going away and now her mum is asking why can’t she come.

So am I being totally selfish to only want to take my own children?

OP posts:
Snappers3 · 11/06/2024 18:24

OP, have a lovely holiday with your children and put this thread out of your mind.

LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 18:22

Outliers · 11/06/2024 18:12

As I say, absolutely your right. Enjoy the holiday

Couldn’t just say it without putting a shitty remark in there first could you.

OP posts:
AquaFurball · 11/06/2024 18:13

LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 17:11

That is bonkers! Absolutely no chance that would happen here. We plan stuff altogether but if I want to do something on a day dsd isn’t here then I still go ahead and do it.

How dare you be a loving, caring parent to your children by making sure they enjoy their childhood and have happiness in their lives!

Some people would rather your children could do nothing without SD but have no issue with her doing nice things with her mother, no cure for such bitterness and resentment.

Hope you and your children have a wonderful holiday 😊

FWIW I am a SC, my step father was the one who included me in family things while my mother excluded me at large. I lived with them and 3 younger siblings full time.
At 15 I was working and they went away without me, he actually asked if I wanted to go too, she didn't. A week of working and spending time with my friends at my gran's was definitely my choice over a holiday with 12, 10 and 9 year old siblings.

Outliers · 11/06/2024 18:12

As I say, absolutely your right. Enjoy the holiday

LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 18:03

Outliers · 11/06/2024 17:18

Deplorable in my view, but absolutely your right.

Nothing deplorable about it.
Just a mum, taking away her children and making sure they have the best childhood I can give them as their mother.

OP posts:
funinthesun19 · 11/06/2024 17:53

Outliers · 11/06/2024 17:18

Deplorable in my view, but absolutely your right.

What’s deplorable about 2 children spending some quality time doing with their mum?

Iaskedyouthrice · 11/06/2024 17:42

I would say dsd's mother is deplorable for not taking her child on holiday @Outliers . Disgraceful. OP and her DH are taking dsd away in October.

WickedSerious · 11/06/2024 17:41

LilyPanda · 10/06/2024 17:14

DH won’t be taking just one of the kids on holiday, a trip to the cinema or a bite to eat then yes but he’s not doing individual holidays for any of the kids. Either they all go or none go.

However, Thank you everyone. Iv now booked to go away, 4 nights in Spain, great flight times, during the time we don’t have dsd. Guilt free!

Iv also messaged dsd mum back and she hasn’t replied so FX that’s the end of that.

Good for you,I hope you and your DC have a great time.🙂

Outliers · 11/06/2024 17:18

LilyPanda · 10/06/2024 17:14

DH won’t be taking just one of the kids on holiday, a trip to the cinema or a bite to eat then yes but he’s not doing individual holidays for any of the kids. Either they all go or none go.

However, Thank you everyone. Iv now booked to go away, 4 nights in Spain, great flight times, during the time we don’t have dsd. Guilt free!

Iv also messaged dsd mum back and she hasn’t replied so FX that’s the end of that.

Deplorable in my view, but absolutely your right.

LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 17:11

funinthesun19 · 11/06/2024 15:03

I remember that thread too. Not allowed on the peddle boats/not allowed an ice cream because the dsc weren’t with them 🤦🏼‍♀️. Absolutely bonkers.

That is bonkers! Absolutely no chance that would happen here. We plan stuff altogether but if I want to do something on a day dsd isn’t here then I still go ahead and do it.

OP posts:
LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 17:09

Shelby2010 · 11/06/2024 12:34

Why is it so hard to grasp that DH needs to ensure HE is treating ALL his children fairly. Nothing to do with what his ex does.

He is contributing to a summer holiday for 2 out of 3 of his children. He asked the OP to take DSD & she said No, which is completely up to her. But the money that would have been spent to take DSD should still be used to fund a trip, day out or whatever, for her.

Maybe he should give the money to DSD’s mother to take her somewhere, given that OP won’t tolerate DH going away with DSD on her own.

If it makes you feel better we can say the holiday is coming from MY contribution to the joint account.

Also where does it stop? I got my kids an ice cream from the ice cream van the other day, should I transfer dsd £3 to buy her own? How about the dominos we had for tea last week? Should I transfer her a tenner so she can grab her own small pizza.

Where does it end ? Are my kids never allowed to do anything if the dsd isn’t there ?

OP posts:
LilyPanda · 11/06/2024 17:04

Shelby2010 · 11/06/2024 13:09

Because self-employed men are well known for their excessive CMS contributions. Not.

You have no idea how much cms he pays regardless of him being self employed. What an odd thing to comment on.

OP posts:
funinthesun19 · 11/06/2024 16:02

JazbayGrapes · 11/06/2024 15:46

I remember that thread too. Not allowed on the peddle boats/not allowed an ice cream because the dsc weren’t with them 🤦🏼‍♀️. Absolutely bonkers.

but this is the other way around.

What’s the other way around?

JazbayGrapes · 11/06/2024 15:46

I remember that thread too. Not allowed on the peddle boats/not allowed an ice cream because the dsc weren’t with them 🤦🏼‍♀️. Absolutely bonkers.

but this is the other way around.

funinthesun19 · 11/06/2024 15:03

DearestGentleReader · 11/06/2024 13:30

In your reasoning how far should OP take this "fairness" no darlings you can't have an ice-cream this week as DSD isn't here, no we can't go out for the day as DSD isn't here... just go and sit in your room until she arrives

I've been around for years and distinctly remember a thread where posters were adamant that the OPs children were allowed to go to the park while her DSC were with their mother, but a shot on the little paddle boats on the pond at the park was too much fun for them to enjoy without the DSC and would have to wait. I can't remember whether they were allowed an ice cream or not 🤔

See also "no, you absolutely can't just nip into McDs for a quick dinner on your way home, you must do a 40 minute round trip to collect the DSC or it's not fair on them"

And so on and so forth. They walk among us.

Edited

I remember that thread too. Not allowed on the peddle boats/not allowed an ice cream because the dsc weren’t with them 🤦🏼‍♀️. Absolutely bonkers.

DearestGentleReader · 11/06/2024 13:30

In your reasoning how far should OP take this "fairness" no darlings you can't have an ice-cream this week as DSD isn't here, no we can't go out for the day as DSD isn't here... just go and sit in your room until she arrives

I've been around for years and distinctly remember a thread where posters were adamant that the OPs children were allowed to go to the park while her DSC were with their mother, but a shot on the little paddle boats on the pond at the park was too much fun for them to enjoy without the DSC and would have to wait. I can't remember whether they were allowed an ice cream or not 🤔

See also "no, you absolutely can't just nip into McDs for a quick dinner on your way home, you must do a 40 minute round trip to collect the DSC or it's not fair on them"

And so on and so forth. They walk among us.

Shelby2010 · 11/06/2024 13:09

InterIgnis · 11/06/2024 12:37

Presumably he pays the mother child support. She can use some of that and call it his contribution to taking her own child on holiday. Same as OP is doing with hers.

Anyway, the situation for OP seems to be resolved.

Because self-employed men are well known for their excessive CMS contributions. Not.

obsessedwithfreshbread · 11/06/2024 12:56

@Shelby2010

He is treating all his children fairly.. he is taking them all away on holiday in October

The mother to 2 of his children are taking them on holiday with money SHE contributes to the family (at a time when DSD is at her mums anyway)

The mother of the other child can take her away with money she contributes to her household income (with possible maintenance payments by the father contributing to that household)

In your reasoning how far should OP take this "fairness" no darlings you can't have an ice-cream this week as DSD isn't here, no we can't go out for the day as DSD isn't here... just go and sit in your room until she arrives 🤷🏻‍♀️

InterIgnis · 11/06/2024 12:37

Shelby2010 · 11/06/2024 12:34

Why is it so hard to grasp that DH needs to ensure HE is treating ALL his children fairly. Nothing to do with what his ex does.

He is contributing to a summer holiday for 2 out of 3 of his children. He asked the OP to take DSD & she said No, which is completely up to her. But the money that would have been spent to take DSD should still be used to fund a trip, day out or whatever, for her.

Maybe he should give the money to DSD’s mother to take her somewhere, given that OP won’t tolerate DH going away with DSD on her own.

Presumably he pays the mother child support. She can use some of that and call it his contribution to taking her own child on holiday. Same as OP is doing with hers.

Anyway, the situation for OP seems to be resolved.

Shelby2010 · 11/06/2024 12:34

AquaFurball · 11/06/2024 11:19

DSD has her own mother, why is it her father's sole responsibility to ensure she gets 2 holidays? He and OP are taking her on holiday. OP is also taking her own children on holiday.
Why is it so hard to grasp that SC's mother should be shouldering that responsibility. I highly doubt OPs husband doesn't pay some sort of maintenance for the elder child as well.

Why is it so hard to grasp that DH needs to ensure HE is treating ALL his children fairly. Nothing to do with what his ex does.

He is contributing to a summer holiday for 2 out of 3 of his children. He asked the OP to take DSD & she said No, which is completely up to her. But the money that would have been spent to take DSD should still be used to fund a trip, day out or whatever, for her.

Maybe he should give the money to DSD’s mother to take her somewhere, given that OP won’t tolerate DH going away with DSD on her own.

DearestGentleReader · 11/06/2024 11:28

gofigure5 · 11/06/2024 10:33

Sorry to ask, you said 'he wasn't married before you' so a bit unclear - did you get together with your DH whilst he was still with his ex?

Why are you so determined that everyone is having an affair?
I'm my husband AKA "Leftovers" first wife, he was never married to the "Used goods" he made "The Mistake" with and had split up from her before I ever met him.
This isn't hard to figure out for people who aren't sniffing out scandal everywhere.

AquaFurball · 11/06/2024 11:26

gofigure5 · 11/06/2024 10:33

Sorry to ask, you said 'he wasn't married before you' so a bit unclear - did you get together with your DH whilst he was still with his ex?

Why are you so intent on insisting OP had a affair? It's none of your business when they got together but given the SD is 16 and OPs oldest is 12 most people would assume there wasn't an overlap.

Why are you not assuming that OPs husband only had a brief relationship with SD's mother that resulted in a child? Or that they had a ONS and tried to have a relationship for the sake of the child but just weren't compatible? Scenarios that are just as likely as affairs breaking up relationships.

AquaFurball · 11/06/2024 11:19

Shelby2010 · 09/06/2024 23:58

The point is that, because your DH is choosing not to take holiday over the summer, then your DSD is not getting a holiday either. You’ve said that if DH was going then she would have been included. So although your children are missing out on a holiday with their dad, she is not getting a holiday at all.

All the Whataboutery regarding her mother is irrelevant. Her father’s other children are getting a holiday away and she isn’t. I agree it’s not your responsibility & you taking your children away shouldn’t be an issue. But it is your DH’s responsibility & the joint decision for him to work is having a more negative impact on DSD than her siblings.

DSD has her own mother, why is it her father's sole responsibility to ensure she gets 2 holidays? He and OP are taking her on holiday. OP is also taking her own children on holiday.
Why is it so hard to grasp that SC's mother should be shouldering that responsibility. I highly doubt OPs husband doesn't pay some sort of maintenance for the elder child as well.

gofigure5 · 11/06/2024 10:35

JazbayGrapes · 11/06/2024 10:26

But why should he though? You’re only suggesting that in retaliation to his younger children

to make sure equal amount of holidays? We're not told why the girl's own mother doesn't take her on holiday.
OP and HER children - technically fine. But then you're either are family or you are not. Siblings will read that message.

I'm not sure - may have missed it though - that DSD's mother ('the ex') doesn't take her on holiday. But I guess it's not about quid pro quo about the fairness of number of holidays but the feeling of being excluded, especially when you have had your SM in your life since you were a toddler, i.e. for a child, as long as they remember.

gofigure5 · 11/06/2024 10:33

LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 20:41

What a load of bullshit. I have already said I was young (and dumb) when I got with my husband. I wouldn’t get with another man who had children again.

However, we have a great life together but now an again his ex pops up to have a moan and a bitch but that’s nothing new. It doesn’t impact our lives day to day or in any meaningful way.

I wasn’t and have never been emotionally damaged, nor was he ever married before me

Sorry to ask, you said 'he wasn't married before you' so a bit unclear - did you get together with your DH whilst he was still with his ex?

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