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To want to do something with just my kids?

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LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 00:05

I want to take my kids away in the 6 weeks… either abroad for 4-5 nights or somewhere in the UK. Most likely abroad to somewhere like Spain or France.

Husband won’t be coming as he is working and self employed so if he doesn’t work, he doesn’t get paid but he’s more then happy for me to go with our 2 kids.

However, he has asked if I would take his DD (my DSD) and Iv said no, I would like to just take our kids and spend some quality time with them. Hes accepted this and nothing else was said about it but DSD has heard from her sister that she’s going away and now her mum is asking why can’t she come.

So am I being totally selfish to only want to take my own children?

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 09/06/2024 17:55

randomchap · 09/06/2024 17:46

The ex wife does not have a relationship with the op's children, why would she?
OP has been in her dsd's life since she was a toddler.
It's a false equivalence.

If it’s about ‘the sibling bond’ and no one should miss out on something their sibling gets to do, then it’s not a false equivalence at all.

The kids have different mothers. All of them get to go on holiday with their respective mothers. No one is missing out.

Rosscameasdoody · 09/06/2024 17:52

gofigure5 · 09/06/2024 14:42

Strange argument. The ex wife has not been raising the OP's kids from when they were toddlers and they have not at any point lived under her roof.

Not the point. The ex wife’s child is a half sibling to the OP’s children but strangely enough, no-one is suggesting that they go on holiday with the ex. I would agree with you if her DH was going, but he’s not, so this is not a family holiday. The OP is entitled to quality time with her biological children.

randomchap · 09/06/2024 17:46

BusyMummy001 · 09/06/2024 17:28

On the basis ex-wife doesn’t take your children away with her, and your DH isn’t coming, I’d say it was totally fine to take your kids away on your own. You don’t lose the right to have a private one to one relationship with your own kids just because their father has a child from a previous relationship.

Perhaps DH could do something special with DSD on his own (Alton towers, trip to London) - then there can be no perception of unfairness, surely?

The ex wife does not have a relationship with the op's children, why would she?
OP has been in her dsd's life since she was a toddler.
It's a false equivalence.

Vecna · 09/06/2024 17:43

funinthesun19 · 09/06/2024 16:41

No thoughts for OP’s children then? How typical. What if they want some time with their mum without dsd always being there? Yes that includes holidays/trips.

What would you say if your children’s father spent some nice quality time with his child he has with you because he realises how important it is? And didn’t take his stepchildren with him if he has any. Or even any younger children he has. No doubt you’d applaud him for it because it benefits your child.

"My child"? Assumptions there. I'm married with 2 children, both belonging to my husband. I was in a relationship with a man who had children previously. It was the reason it didn't work out. Kids come first.

To answer your question, this is a holiday, not a shopping trip/ cinema trip. If I spend one-to-one time with one of my children, I do the same with the other. I wouldn't dream of taking a holiday with one and leaving the other (who wants to go) behind.

Unfairr · 09/06/2024 17:42

Shortfatsuit · 09/06/2024 09:49

I agree with all of this. I just think that, if the dad is paying for a holiday for some of his children, he should pay for a holiday for all of his children. I'm not saying that the OP should take the dsd. Merely that her dad should be fair to all of his kids.

Of course, if he is already paying very generous amounts of maintenance over and above the minimum requirements, it might be reasonable to suggest that the mum takes her dc on holiday with that.

Well in that case, it is not fair on the younger half siblings if the step daughter goes on holiday with her mum. I'm sure OP's DH pays child maintenance and maybe even gives his dd spending money or buys stuff for her if she goes on holiday with her mum. If he buys his eldest daughter something, does he also buy something for his younger children?

BusyMummy001 · 09/06/2024 17:28

On the basis ex-wife doesn’t take your children away with her, and your DH isn’t coming, I’d say it was totally fine to take your kids away on your own. You don’t lose the right to have a private one to one relationship with your own kids just because their father has a child from a previous relationship.

Perhaps DH could do something special with DSD on his own (Alton towers, trip to London) - then there can be no perception of unfairness, surely?

PollyPut · 09/06/2024 17:13

@LilyPanda unless you and DSD have the same surname you might need quite a bit of paperwork to take her abroad as you are not her birth mum or dad. Sounds complicated even if you were to try

Meanwhile33 · 09/06/2024 17:09

I think given the age gap and that she doesn’t live with you most of the time it’s fine. She won’t be interested in the same things as the younger ones and could well get bored which would make it stressful. I’d just explain to her mum that you’ll be doing stuff that’s too babyish for her, and get your DH to plan something nice for her soon.

Purplecatshopaholic · 09/06/2024 17:06

VotesForWomen · 09/06/2024 15:06

Just don't entertain any nonsense.

"No, this is a trip for me, X and Y. DH isn't coming so DSD won't be missing out on any contact with him."

Totally. Jeezo, some of the threads on here.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 09/06/2024 16:51

I don’t think you need to explain the finances of the holiday to anyone.
As a pp said you have no parental rights in the case of illness or injury. It’s her mum and/or dad’s responsibility to take her on holiday.

LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 16:43

Definitelynotagladiator · 09/06/2024 16:04

I find it easier to not tell kids what is going on until the last minute. Saves a lot of questions. As you haven’t booked anything yet just be nonchalant about it all. Technically at the moment you’re not going anywhere. I wouldn’t want to disappoint a child and at the same time this is a holiday for you and your children. Is her mum in a position to take her away in the holidays?

I honestly wouldn’t know anything about her financial abilities.

OP posts:
funinthesun19 · 09/06/2024 16:41

Vecna · 09/06/2024 16:29

Yes. That is exactly what I think. She married a man who was a father and should have done so being prepared to treat her as a full member of the family. I'd never entertain a relationship with someone who would leave my pre-existing children out. How unkind and disloyal.

No thoughts for OP’s children then? How typical. What if they want some time with their mum without dsd always being there? Yes that includes holidays/trips.

What would you say if your children’s father spent some nice quality time with his child he has with you because he realises how important it is? And didn’t take his stepchildren with him if he has any. Or even any younger children he has. No doubt you’d applaud him for it because it benefits your child.

Vecna · 09/06/2024 16:29

MILTOBE · 09/06/2024 13:24

So are you saying the OP should never go on holiday just with her own children?

Yes. That is exactly what I think. She married a man who was a father and should have done so being prepared to treat her as a full member of the family. I'd never entertain a relationship with someone who would leave my pre-existing children out. How unkind and disloyal.

Beautiful3 · 09/06/2024 16:19

Nope, it would change the family dynamics. I'm sure the ex wife doesn't take your children away?!

LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 16:15

Namenamchange · 09/06/2024 14:43

However her dh is working, which I guess he needs to do so op can go on holiday with the children considering op they share money.

op is there an option for you to do overtime so your dh is able to take a few days off to take the children away?

We could afford for him to come but we don’t want to lose that income anyway. We are not on the breadline or even close. He earns enough but it’s a combination of not wanting to lose the income and he can’t let clients down last minute.
He already had 3 weeks off earlier this year as he was in hospital poorly unexpectedly. Hes then had days off here and there that was planned in for weekends away.

He has a week booked off for Oct half term when we are ALL away.

He won’t mess his clients around by taking more unexpected time off because Iv decided I want to take the kids away for a few days. He’s happy for me to go, I’m happy for him to stay.
Either way, the reason he isn’t coming is irrelevant.

OP posts:
funinthesun19 · 09/06/2024 16:14

No way should you have to take DSD. If her father isn’t going then you have no obligations to take her with you.

You and your children have every right to spend some quality time together without dsd. Dsd has her own mum to do these with. I don’t think she is hard done by by not going away with you. Her mum is entitled and cheeky, and isn’t respecting the fact that you want some quality time with your own children. As a mum she should understand how important it is.

Crazycrazylady · 09/06/2024 16:09

Honestly given the age difference yanby. The hol that tweens would enjoy is vastly different to a teen holiday. Tell your dd to tell her sis that this time it's just her and ds and her mom z

Nanny0gg · 09/06/2024 16:05

LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 15:47

Because he will be working, hence the reason he’s not coming on this trip.

Not even a day?

In that case can he do one-to-one another time?

Definitelynotagladiator · 09/06/2024 16:04

I find it easier to not tell kids what is going on until the last minute. Saves a lot of questions. As you haven’t booked anything yet just be nonchalant about it all. Technically at the moment you’re not going anywhere. I wouldn’t want to disappoint a child and at the same time this is a holiday for you and your children. Is her mum in a position to take her away in the holidays?

LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 15:52

Shelby2010 · 09/06/2024 11:44

It would have been better to plan holiday dates far enough in advance that DH hadn’t booked clients in. It’s not like the school holidays come as a surprise.

Sorry I’m not booking my last minute holidays in a timely manner for you. Pretty sure me and DH are happy with our timing though so your snide remark isn’t needed.

OP posts:
LilyPanda · 09/06/2024 15:47

Nanny0gg · 09/06/2024 11:33

@LilyPanda
No he won’t. All money goes in one pot (the family pot). We spend from it as and when we need. DSD isn’t privy to how we set up our finances either and it’s something we wouldn’t talk about with her either.

But she's his daughter too
So why doesn't some of his money go towards taking her somewhere while you're away?

Because he will be working, hence the reason he’s not coming on this trip.

OP posts:
GlassCaseOfEmotions · 09/06/2024 15:40

Nanny0gg · 09/06/2024 15:29

Didn't say she did

I'm wondering why her DH won't do it and the implication appears to be that the family pot is for their nuclear family and I wondered if he had money he could use for his daughter.

DH isn't here to answer that, and OP isn't obliged to provide an answer for him. So repeating the same thing constantly is pointless.

Yes, he has money he can use for his daughter. It comes from the family pot. What doesn't come from the family pot is free childcare provided by OP.

Roundroundthegarden · 09/06/2024 15:38

VotesForWomen · 09/06/2024 15:06

Just don't entertain any nonsense.

"No, this is a trip for me, X and Y. DH isn't coming so DSD won't be missing out on any contact with him."

Best response. Does a 16yo want to anyway? If op and her dh are happy that it's coming from the family lot, why are so many bitter about that ? Op also wants to make memories with her own children, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Ereyraa · 09/06/2024 15:35

Nanny0gg · 09/06/2024 15:29

Didn't say she did

I'm wondering why her DH won't do it and the implication appears to be that the family pot is for their nuclear family and I wondered if he had money he could use for his daughter.

Who are you asking though? As OP is the only person who could realistically give you the answer, and you’ve agreed upthread with PP that this not OP’s responsibility to look at. It’s not for OP to work out why he can/can’t.

Shinyandnew1 · 09/06/2024 15:35

DSD has heard from her sister that she’s going away and now her mum is asking why can’t she come.

Who is the mum asking this to?

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