To not understand the fuss over Taylor Swift.

Fine not to like her. What gets tiresome is a new thread being started every damn week by someone feeling compelled to declare they don’t like her. As though it makes them special somehow.

As for Espresso… well written? Hmm.

Too bad your ex don't do it for ya
Walked in and dream came trued it for ya
Soft skin and I perfumed it for ya
I know I Mountain Dew it for ya
That morning coffee, brewed it for ya
One touch and I brand newed it for ya
Now he's thinkin' 'bout me every night, oh
Is it that sweet? I guess so
Say you can't sleep, baby, I know
That's that me, espresso
Move it up, down, left, right, oh
Switch it up like Nintendo
Say you can't sleep, baby, I know
That's that me, espresso

Depends where you set your bar I guess. Move it up down left right oh switch it up like Nintendo is not likely to go down in the annals of musical history as an example of lyrical brilliance in my opinion.

Nothing against her as don’t obviously know her. Her music isn’t my thing but clearly she’s popular but the social media mania for tickets and merchandise in Scotland is bonkers. I will be glad come Monday and it’s over! It was the ame when Beyoncé was in town!

I liked her music when I was younger, at 42 I find her music relatable and can enjoy it with my teenage dc. Some of her songs have got me through hard times (Pink add Kelly Clarkson too). She’s overcome bullies, and come back stronger, showing true resilience and strength which I think is a great message for my daughters.

In short, she’s a great role model and I enjoy her music. Her concerts bring people together and radiate kindness and happiness overcoming all. Why wouldn’t you want to be a part of that?

We’re going to her concert and the tickets were £68 each. I paid more to see Beyoncé 8 years ago.

Not saying everyone has to like her but she’s a successful song writer, musician, singer, performer and business woman so I’m not sure why you’re confused to be honest.

She might be secretly evil but just very good at hiding it. At least her boyfeinds know when it's over she gets a few more songs about the pain and gets her revenge on stage and monetises the heartache.

A good thing about Taylor Swift, is that she has never gotten into any scandal. Or been in the news for hurting anyone else

Which is good these days

Laughing all the way to the bank, like most of them.
It's never really just about the singing it's about the image and other things.
Look at Spice girls, crap singing, but marketed well.
The idea of five girls each with Spice names was more the attraction and the girl power thing.
There are top opera singer in Germany singing now, great voices but won't ear nearly as much as people like TS, Harry Styles etc.

yawn

We are allowed to not like her though.

That is called a difference of musical opinion.

I don't think she's rubbish. She can write lyrics.

I just think that her music is very bland.

She had sabrina carpenter as her supporting act recently.

I was listening to sabrinas song "espresso" and I thought it was more interesting and well written than some of Taylors songs

Loved her since 2007, love her now.

You don't have to understand the hype, you don't even have to think about it. You can just merrily go about your day.

I adore Taylor but my heart slightly breaks for the lovely talented young women singers who write their own stuff but can barely make a living and play for tiny venues. Dh and I go along to support and because they are genuinely so good. Would be nice if the wealth and success could be shared out! But that’s not Taylor’s fault.

Well he was also a Nazi as well as he created Hitler !!

I thought you were leaving?

I also think god is a swifty. he created taylor swift after all. god is great.

I admire the way she bilks the over invested to become the richest star ever and persuades these devotees to sepnd 45 quid on a t-shirt that probably cost a couple of quid to make. But what is tragic is the grass roots venues and many festivals are dying with the cost of living crisis, rising rents and these stars fly in hoover up huge amounts of money and then fly out again without ever giving anything back. A 5% ticket tax has been proposed to help these venues survive. She is not your friend just a very clever beautiful and talented woman who fleeces you with a smile and a song.

https://www.musicvenuetrust.com/

I don't get the extent of her popularity either but I'm not trying to understand it or demanding fans explain it to me.

People like what they like.

I do think she's a great role model for young girls and I think she deals really well with her haters.

I’m just gonna go ahead and see which of my Taylor Swift Bashing Thread Bingo boxes get ticked…

Bland/boring/talentless/average/dull

Songs all sound the same

Only writes about boyfriends

Writes songs for kids/teenagers

all her fans are kids/teenagers

”She’s no (insert name of someone who was big between 1960-1990)”

Comparison with The Beatles/Queen/Madonna/

Comparison with Adele/Beyoncé/some other big voiced belter

Nobody will be singing her songs in X years’ time

How dare she own a private jet

Ugh Taylor Swift fans are so defensive/take criticism of her so personally

Never heard of her

Never heard any of her songs

Her tickets are extortionate

Well he wouldn't send a flood because he made a promise that wouldn't happen again. Remember that when you see that beautiful rainbow in the sky not the fake man made one that believes in today.

As a mother of a confirmed Swifty, I have listened to her music for at least a decade in a sort of passive way. But nothing could have prepared me for her concert last Monday. And there were all ages, men and women. The most extraordinary thing - I will never forget it.
If you really want to understand, go to a concert. If you just want to sneer because you estime your musical taste to be so much superior to ours , why not just jog on?

@AngeloMysterioso well put.

Not someone whose music I listen to, each to their own. A difference between not to my taste and offensive or just awful. Some people listen to the bad karaoke that is Atomic Kitten or Westlife.

She appeals to young kids.

I don't think her music is very great to be honest

Oh is that what the poster meant?

I shudder to think what they say about Kylie Minogue and JLo.

Actually I’ve just remembered a thread here about the JLo & Shakira Superbowl half time show. One of the most uplifting and energised performances I’ve ever seen. And posters were complaining about their age. These posters don’t like people enjoying themselves, or they think showmanship is for men.

She's not a "con artist" for playing younger than she actually is, which is an absolutely 100% mainstream popstar thing.

Her actual age is extremely well known (better, I would think, than perhaps any other person in the public eye) because she named an album after her birth year. She's not exactly hiding it.

God must be happy with the way in which the world is going. If he wasn't he would send a massive flood like he did before. God's probably a Swiftie.

I think it is a feat of fitness and endurance that she can perform 40 songs over 3 hours each evening, keeping the audience engaged throughout. I've seen the Disney version of the Eras tour and it is exhausting just to watch....

Doesn't need anyone to defend him. I chose to defend him because of my love for him. That's the difference. I wouldn't call it judging tbh simply making a point just as others did, so I am being judgemental so are others. If you don't believe God is real, then why would you believe he is responsible for man made wars. You sound confused.

Missed me I see..
In the most respectful way possible, I really am not phased by the slightest, because you're the one who felt triggered & bothered enough to reply to me and continue going on. There is evidence and witnesses and many many things out there that align with many prophecies. However, it is not my job to convince you or make you feel better about your own beliefs. We are individual human beings with a right of will that God gave us to either choose to believe or not. I'll finish it off here on this topic, I would rather die knowing I fully accept God and I followed the morals and obligations as a follower of Christ than die knowing he is real and I chose to reject him to feed my worldy egos. I am sure I will get a tail of hate straight after this but it really is in YOUR hands. I have a flight to catch now but good chat. God bless you truly & everyone else here ❤️