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Would you sack nanny over this?

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YourMerryBrickRobin · 07/06/2024 23:42

AHave name changed as potentially outing.

Nanny has been with us for 6 years, since our joint biological eldest turned 1 (DH has two kids aged 18 and 14, eldest lives with us full time youngest visits in school holidays)

We have never really had any problems although we will admit a boundary has been slightly pushed lately but we let it go- her long term boyfriend was left homeless, so we agree he could TEMPORARILY move on but would be in the caravan outdoors as he wasn’t DBS checked and didn’t want him staying in the house. He seems a nice enough guy and I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t harm my children and appreciate a DBS doesn’t stop that, but it was a boundary we put in place.

He started coming into the house around the DC while we weren’t there. Got a bit more annoyed, but chose not to rock the boat as Nanny is a diamond

Anyway today- she left our youngest (9 months) in the care of her boyfriend while she went and collected DS from nursery, which is literally a 5 minute walk away. Reason being- we had DDs car seat in our car. She didn’t attempt to contact either me or DH (we are both self employed and always within 10-15 miles of home) despite noticing this morning when she was going to take her to the park (DH dropped DS off, we have 2 same stage car seats hence why it wasn’t an issue with DS this morning)

Im pissed off if I’m honest. Like I said, nice enough guy but don’t know him well enough to look after my child even if it was for under 10 minutes

AIBU?

OP posts:
Castle0 · 11/06/2024 15:28

RosesAndHellebores · 10/06/2024 05:39

Goodness me, what an angry message.

Not angry at all, just bewildered by the utter lack of basic comprehension on this thread. 😂

Grown adults unable to understand its not about the boyfriend.😂

MyQuaintDog · 11/06/2024 14:00

You have to go through the disciplinary procedure though which legally should be in her employee contract.

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 11/06/2024 13:00

It certainly qualifies as a sackable offence. Whether you do decide to sack your Nanny should depend on how much credit she has from the previous six years. I had a Nanny who was loyal, kind and loving to the babies but she made a really poor decision which caused me to question her judgement at a fundamental level. I didn't sack her then but I found myself checking up on everything, all the time, and that's a horrible relationship to have, especially with a live-in Nanny- as others have said, it's quite an intimate arrangement. Eventually I had to let her go, albeit with references- because my trust in her judgement and therefore safety of my DC was broken.
If she has been wonderful for six years, and there's enough invested in the relationship with your children, you could keep her on with a final warning, or perhaps explore whether the time has come for her to transition to live-out.
Either way you need to be really clear about boundaries moving forward.
I must say though, that keeping a Nanny for six years says a lot about you and her, to the credit of both. It's what stopped me saying Yes to sacking her straight off. She will be an important feature in all your children's lives and potentially a life-long asset to them like an honorary Aunt or godmother- don't throw that away lightly.

Invent · 11/06/2024 12:31

Bunnie007 · 10/06/2024 21:02

This is such a good way to explain it

Really? If you had been given sole charge of a shop for 6 years and lived over the shop would the shop owner really sack you? Especially considering if the shop had been fine and business hadn't been affected.

Lyraloo · 11/06/2024 09:47

StopStartStop · 10/06/2024 17:16

Somewhere you can never be.

Thank God!

Bunnie007 · 10/06/2024 21:02

MelodyFinch · 10/06/2024 16:57

If you worked in a shop and left your boyfriend in sole charge while you popped to the shops for 10 minutes you would lose your job. Your baby is infinitely more precious than the contents of a till.

This is such a good way to explain it

coupdetonnerre · 10/06/2024 19:47

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LazyGewl · 10/06/2024 17:55

she is so enamoured of this man that she breaches her own standard of professionalism. For me it wouldn't matter how good she was I would need to let her go. It might be a wake up call for her (that said, a warning might work the same magic)

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2024 17:49

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 14:54

If you read the original post, she simply said she didn’t want him staying in the house!

I know, but I read it as being in the house rather than sleeping there - probably because I couldn't imagine that being requested

As said though I could be wrong, but it doesn't change the point that one thing leads to another and here OP is

StopStartStop · 10/06/2024 17:16

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 15:01

Well I’m in the same boat as you then!

Somewhere you can never be.

MelodyFinch · 10/06/2024 16:57

If you worked in a shop and left your boyfriend in sole charge while you popped to the shops for 10 minutes you would lose your job. Your baby is infinitely more precious than the contents of a till.

xmaswiththeinlaws · 10/06/2024 16:56

WhichEllie · 08/06/2024 01:55
Nanny has been with us for 6 years

she is just 18 and I wouldn’t think at that age

Er, sorry, what?? Has she been your nanny/babysitter since she was 12?

This confused me initially until l realised "she is just 18" referred to SD (the step daughter), not the nanny.

HollyKnight · 10/06/2024 15:05

Lack of clarity? What is unclear about being a nanny? Your job is to look after children. You are failing to do that when you leave someone else in your employer's house with your employer's baby.

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 15:01

StopStartStop · 10/06/2024 13:21

If you don't know better than to use the term 'common', there is no hope for you.

Well I’m in the same boat as you then!

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 15:00

It’s laughable you talk about her being able to talk to you, why don’t you actually talk to her instead of sending texts and getting dh to talk to her. Sit down face to face and have an adult conversation! It’s your lack of clarity that has caused this problem!

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 14:54

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2024 14:26

Again, OP already said they'd made " a firm boundary" about allowing the boyfriend in the house and it was ignored

Of course I could be wrong, but I'm not sure what difference repeating it is going to make, whether he remains living in the caravan or not

If you read the original post, she simply said she didn’t want him staying in the house!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2024 14:26

Goodtogossip · 10/06/2024 12:25

If you're generally happy with her & trust her then have a meeting with her telling her what you're not happy about & what you expect from her during her working hours. Set the boundaries & tell her her boyfriend isn't allowed in the house & if they both don't adhere to the rules then he can no longer stay in the caravan & you will seriously be thinking about her role as Nanny & whether it's working & if you can trust her or not.

Again, OP already said they'd made " a firm boundary" about allowing the boyfriend in the house and it was ignored

Of course I could be wrong, but I'm not sure what difference repeating it is going to make, whether he remains living in the caravan or not

Rottweilermummy · 10/06/2024 14:00

He has to go now and she should too regardless of how good she's been. There was no need for her to leave your baby with her boyfriend , in a matter of mins something could have happened, OK it seems it didn't but she left your vulnerable baby basically with a stranger ,

Tooski · 10/06/2024 13:25

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 09:11

Adults or just common?

Classic MN.

StopStartStop · 10/06/2024 13:21

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 09:11

Adults or just common?

If you don't know better than to use the term 'common', there is no hope for you.

Goodtogossip · 10/06/2024 12:25

If you're generally happy with her & trust her then have a meeting with her telling her what you're not happy about & what you expect from her during her working hours. Set the boundaries & tell her her boyfriend isn't allowed in the house & if they both don't adhere to the rules then he can no longer stay in the caravan & you will seriously be thinking about her role as Nanny & whether it's working & if you can trust her or not.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/06/2024 11:29

He is having free accomodation on the condition not to enter the house. Yet he did. And stayed there looking after the baby that the nanny should have taken with her

It seems to me a classic case of "give them an inch and they'll take a yard", which is probably why so many have said they've never have let him live there in the first place

Realistically there's no way he wasn't going to come into the house once in situ, even if they had to manufacture an "emergency" with the caravan to justify it, but I agree that leaving the DC with him is something else again

Thelnebriati · 10/06/2024 11:15

Why are you confusing employees in a paid position of trust with your friends?

Bollindger · 10/06/2024 10:45

Has it got to the point that every potential partner or friend needs a DBS check!
What happens if anyone has friends or family in the house, how do they go the loo, do they take all the children?
Or when your at an event , you tell the friend next to you can ,you watch the pram as it won't fit in the portaloo?
How do you get petrol as a single parent?

Lyraloo · 10/06/2024 09:11

StopStartStop · 10/06/2024 09:04

@Lyraloo is there really any need to start swearing?
We can swear here. We are adults.

Adults or just common?