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To happily pay an extra £2000 per year to....

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Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

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TemuSpecialBuy · 07/06/2024 20:38

I would pay 2k if it was 2k and if it was effectively deployed
sadly…its not going to be 2k as over 50% of adults are not net contributors (ie they take out more than they contribute) and 10% of earners pay 60% of all income tax

Bumblebeeinatree · 07/06/2024 20:38

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

All of this will take much more than this, and there isn't the infrastructure to even implement any of it which will also cost a fortune. Who even said this was a possibility?

Cluborange666 · 07/06/2024 20:37

Yes, I agree. In Scandinavia, they pay higher taxes etc but they have a much better quality of life. It seems worth it to me.
The only people disagreeing with the principle seem to say ‘Yeah, but it won’t happen because Labour…’ But we haven’t had this government before and the Tories have proved, for over a decade now, that they are intent on making ordinary people’s lives worse.
Personally, I’m willing to taking the gamble. A tenner a month is a no-brainer.

BeaRF75 · 07/06/2024 20:33

OP, none of the things you list would happen. Please God that any extra taxes raised don't get put into the NHS .... what an utter waste that would be.

Lovelygreen24 · 07/06/2024 20:33

For £2000 a year I'd pay for my child to have private therapy, get myself health insurance and help out my elderly neighbour on a rota with my other neighbours like we used to do...and I'd still have a bit of cash leftover

Bumblebeeinatree · 07/06/2024 20:32

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:27

Sad. But true. But I'd vote for it.

Voting for something you know won't happen. So any one can say anything that you like but you know they won't do and you will still vote for them? Why?

SussexLass87 · 07/06/2024 20:31

Agree OP! 100%!

supercalafragilisticexpealidocious · 07/06/2024 20:30

I agree entirely and have just said the same. I don't want tax cuts I want to live in a society that works. I want public services that are well funded. I don't want pot holes in every street. I want a high street with no boarded up shops.

Reugny · 07/06/2024 20:30

Scarletttulips · 07/06/2024 20:29

You have been paying high tax for years - so what’s changed?

It’s not about money is it?

This is why Blair's Labour gave child benefit to everyone with a child and had Sure Start.

Even if you were childless at the time you didn't have to put up with your relatives with children moaning so much.

Firawla · 07/06/2024 20:30

I wouldn’t, because as mentioned they will just take the tax money and not deliver on any of it. So I’d rather pay the minimum tax amount and just sort myself out tbh.
I don’t really believe any promises from politicians because they do not follow through

toomanyshoes · 07/06/2024 20:30

I'd pay a lot more than that for decent public services tbh.

Catnipcupcakes · 07/06/2024 20:30

Whitesapphire · 07/06/2024 20:09

Speak for yourself, I already pay a huge amount of tax. Countless people are not paying any income tax at all. It’s those who need to start paying in so we can have better public services.

Exactly.

I already pay 45% income tax to the Scottish government and about £3000 a year on top of that to the US Government as a dual citizen. I don’t even work there.

The rest of my earnings seems to go on various other taxes, it just astounds me.

That should be enough. I don’t want to pay a penny more for anything, thanks.

beckybarefoot · 07/06/2024 20:29

ah and those who do not pay tax... do they continue as they are? so segregation by financial worth?

it will never happen... oh they will take the money, ofcourse they will.. but the changes will never happen,because those at the top will take their cut, then their second in command will take theirs.. and so on and so on and when it gets right at the bottom with the people who actually do the work... well basically their money pay check will be lower, cos they've paid more tax and they still cant get their f2f appointment with the GP

Reugny · 07/06/2024 20:29

Whitesapphire · 07/06/2024 20:09

Speak for yourself, I already pay a huge amount of tax. Countless people are not paying any income tax at all. It’s those who need to start paying in so we can have better public services.

You can't pay income tax if you aren't working or have pensionable income over the tax threshold.

Or do you expect my 5 year old child or her 11 year old cousin to pay income tax?

Scarletttulips · 07/06/2024 20:29

You have been paying high tax for years - so what’s changed?

It’s not about money is it?

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:27

PracticeorPractise · 07/06/2024 20:24

Well, yes.

But let's face it - this ain't gonna happen.

Sad. But true. But I'd vote for it.

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TheBanffie · 07/06/2024 20:27

So how many people are paying this extra 2K a year? Sounds like it wouldn't even touch the sides of that wish list! One full time GP will be best part of £100K a year (for 40 hours a week and as most GPs do long days that'll probably be 4 x 10 hour days a week) - so 50 tax payers worth for 1 GP.

Bumblebeeinatree · 07/06/2024 20:26

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

Is this some sort of insurance if so what?

PracticeorPractise · 07/06/2024 20:24

Well, yes.

But let's face it - this ain't gonna happen.

DoreenonTill8 · 07/06/2024 20:23

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 07/06/2024 20:14

Who has promised these and will they actually be delivered?

Agree, all of that for only 2k? Or do they mean 2k for every household in the UK, so of course there'll be the households who don't contribute for whatever reason and their contributions going to get spread out to be expected from others?

fernz · 07/06/2024 20:22

I'm a single income household and already barely earning enough (and not eligible for any help whatsoever) so no, I couldn't cope with paying any more tax.

insidenumber9 · 07/06/2024 20:20

Completely agree! If it visibly made the country better I wouldn’t mind paying. The tories keep taxes low but claw back the money via stealth.

TheGoogleMum · 07/06/2024 20:19

Sounds good to me but in fairness I'm one of the hospital workers

BrightLightTonight · 07/06/2024 20:18

No - I pay enough in taxes.

If wastrel dad’s were made to pay a proper maintenance for their offsprings, that would reduce the benefit budget by far more than taxing people who are already overpaying tax.

If people who refuse to work, rather than can’t work, were made accountable, that again would reduce the benefit budget by far more than taxing people who are already overpaying tax.

If companies like Amazon were forced to pay the correct amount of tax, once again that would reduce the tax burden on all tax payers.

Labours idea of making PAYE employees pay more in tax is a sign of their lazy attitudes to the people

hattie43 · 07/06/2024 20:16

You've got no way of knowing that £2k will go on any of that .