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To happily pay an extra £2000 per year to....

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Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

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StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:25

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:12

Eh? I'm simply stating what I'd like to see fixed if I paid more tax (on a fair shares basis). Neither Labour or Conservative have said they will do any of my requests...hence they both have no idea! No more squabbling or point scoring just simple fixes to make lives easier for many.

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FFS, which part of ‘it’s a false claim’ don’t you understand?

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 07/06/2024 22:20

2020 by current prime minister Rishi Sunak, all money raised through VED goes back into maintaining the upkeep of the UK road system

VED should be paying to repair potholes , not coming out of that £2,000.

BurbageBrook · 07/06/2024 22:20

It is a FALSE.FIGURE and using the same calculations you'd pay 3k under the Tories..agree with PPs your thread title.amplifoes this nonsense. You should ask for your title to be amended or delete the thread.

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Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:12

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:04

Well done, OP. You have fallen for the Tories’ false campaign claims and are now distributing & amplifying them online. That’s exactly what they wanted you to do, so you have been successfully manipulated by their strategists. Good job. CCHQ must be delighted. 🙄

Eh? I'm simply stating what I'd like to see fixed if I paid more tax (on a fair shares basis). Neither Labour or Conservative have said they will do any of my requests...hence they both have no idea! No more squabbling or point scoring just simple fixes to make lives easier for many.

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Notatthemoment · 07/06/2024 22:07

justanotherlaura · 07/06/2024 20:08

I 100% agree but do note that that £2k figure is over 4 years not every year and the figures are apparently made up too but I do agree with the sentiment!

This. Scare tactics which have misfired.

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:04

Well done, OP. You have fallen for the Tories’ false campaign claims and are now distributing & amplifying them online. That’s exactly what they wanted you to do, so you have been successfully manipulated by their strategists. Good job. CCHQ must be delighted. 🙄

Pin0cchio · 07/06/2024 21:59

Me too op. I'm a high earner. I can afford 4 or 5k more in tax a year

Its worth it to keep a free at point of use nhs.

HulaChick · 07/06/2024 21:58

No, I wouldn't! Can't possibly afford to lose £2000 off my salary!! It's hard enough already making ends meet each month.

Brighteyedtriangle · 07/06/2024 21:56

Billions and billions and billions raised each year. It will never be enough they need more billions.

RaininSummer · 07/06/2024 21:56

I couldn't afford to lose two grand. It's around 7 percent of my whole take home wage and hard enough to live already.

LostTheMarble · 07/06/2024 21:53

The country apparently isn’t a magic money tree, but individual people apparently are? And I would love for most of the op to become reality, but even if the money did appear I don’t trust either main party to change anything. The NHS will not be helped, councils will not get the funding to fix roads and SEN support? I’ve read Labour’s education manifesto and it’s pitiful, Tories are obviously completely ignoring what a huge need it’s becoming. So no, I don’t think it will work or even be implemented.

adviceneeded1990 · 07/06/2024 21:50

I’d pay it in a heartbeat for all those things, but in reality I’d pay it and get none of those things!

SpudleyLass · 07/06/2024 21:49

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

You can afford that. Plenty can't.

Starmer is going to price my SEN child out of the only school ( private) who will take her and I have to rely on enough benefactors existing to take her education because the state are twats and wil lfind any excuse under the moon not to.

LaNuitPorteConseil · 07/06/2024 21:47

I’m expected to believe that although for my £50k of tax I already pay, I (and others) get terrible services, that if I pay £500 - £2000 per year more, those services will be great.

Yeah, I don’t believe that.

bananasplitsallround · 07/06/2024 21:45

Yes, I would too. Bud what makes you think you would ever get that for your £2000? Not a chance!

Farmwifefarmlife · 07/06/2024 21:40

GodzillaAttacks · 07/06/2024 20:11

But it wouldn't happen.

They'd take the money and not do it.

Look at all the tax money they've squandered over the years, that could have fixed any number of those things.

You're making the assumption they actually care about the general public. They care about keeping their own wages

I agree with this. Would be amazing if they did what the OP had posted.

LeiaOrganaBananaHamock · 07/06/2024 21:40

Lovelygreen24 · 07/06/2024 20:33

For £2000 a year I'd pay for my child to have private therapy, get myself health insurance and help out my elderly neighbour on a rota with my other neighbours like we used to do...and I'd still have a bit of cash leftover

Which health insurance company quoted you under £2000 please? My last quote was just over £9000

BobbyBiscuits · 07/06/2024 21:39

Yep. Cheap at the price. That figure is bs though. It wasn't endorsed by the treasury.

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 21:37

I already pay that by using private education and private medical and saving the government money on top of paying many multiples of 2000 in tax over decades.

Happy for others to step up.

ZarZarGabor · 07/06/2024 21:30

Even on conservatives calculations (which are disputed) it’s over 4 years, so £500 a year max

Cotopoxy · 07/06/2024 21:28

Emeraldsrock · 07/06/2024 21:24

The Scandinavian countries don’t sneer at the middle classes and those that have done well for themselves like they do in the UK.

We have a small business dealing with corporate companies so cross every line and every t when it comes to tax. Sick of seeing tradesmen take the mick when it comes to tax and not a thing is ever done about it.

Our local takeaway is cash only and I can guarantee that most of it is not being declared. Cash, cash, cash is the issue! If the only way of getting paid was money transferred into your business bank account if would be a start.

Fangisnotacoward · 07/06/2024 21:28

If that money was guaranteed to improve services and invest in infrastructure of essential services, then, yes, yes I would. No problem

Temushopper · 07/06/2024 21:24

Temushopper · 07/06/2024 21:23

How about having an estate have the same tax free allowance as a person (so £12.5k ish currently) & everything above subject to same rate of tax as income. I don’t know what the numbers would be but surely that would make a significant amount of money. It seems like you’d always get more overall by upping taxes that hit the majority vs those that only hit very high earners.

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I can’t think there are many loopholes left. Most I know of defer tax rather than avoid it entirely

Emeraldsrock · 07/06/2024 21:24

The Scandinavian countries don’t sneer at the middle classes and those that have done well for themselves like they do in the UK.

We have a small business dealing with corporate companies so cross every line and every t when it comes to tax. Sick of seeing tradesmen take the mick when it comes to tax and not a thing is ever done about it.

nobeans · 07/06/2024 21:23

Can't afford it sorry