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To happily pay an extra £2000 per year to....

211 replies

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 07/06/2024 23:58

Haven’t those roles been got rid of?

Moonmelodies · 07/06/2024 23:55

One can only begin to imagine how many more 'Directors of Lived Experience' and 'Diversity and Inclusion Administrators' the NHS could employ if we all chipped in a couple of grand extra each.

AnnieSF · 07/06/2024 23:54

Sorry - CAT 🐈 INSURANCE

AnnieSF · 07/06/2024 23:53

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 22:59

9,000 for Bupa medical and health insurance must be because you have a lot of pre-existing medical conditions. Just got a Bupa quote for my dh. It came in at 1,200 per year and he is over 50.

I need to get that quote as my car insurance costs more 😂

AnnieSF · 07/06/2024 23:51

You think you are going to get all that for such a small amount of money?

makeanddo · 07/06/2024 23:51

No thanks, we pay enough taxes.

Fix the shocking waste first.
Improve productivity.
Ensure working pays - stop the top ups, ensure employers pay fair wages.

Livelovebehappy · 07/06/2024 23:50

GodzillaAttacks · 07/06/2024 20:11

But it wouldn't happen.

They'd take the money and not do it.

Look at all the tax money they've squandered over the years, that could have fixed any number of those things.

You're making the assumption they actually care about the general public. They care about keeping their own wages

Agree with this. Things would not improve with increased tax. They’d just continue to spend it on other random stuff. Look at the NHS. The amount of money thrown at the NHS, and all they’ve done is employ more layers of management, who don’t manage the finances well.

WhyIhatebaylissandharding · 07/06/2024 23:49

I’m in Scotland and pay significantly more than £2000 a year in extra income tax. It makes no difference and won’t if the same taxes are applied in England. There are such significant structural issues in the NHS /Education/other public sector services that you’re just pouring money down an open drain.

ChampagneLassie · 07/06/2024 23:44

I think the problem is everyone seems deluded over the cost of providing the sort of services we think we want. If we want the services of Scandi countries or Germany then we should expect to pay commensurate tax rates and unfortunately we’re not as productive per person so we’d have to have higher rates. all the current politicians propose is tinkering around the edges. £2k more will barely touch the sides. so whoever gets in it’s just more of the same with UKs continual sliding down the standard of living scale compared to other countries

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 23:39

maybeinanotherpie · 07/06/2024 23:30

How about everyone else? You need to be helping the vulnerable

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Eh, what do you think the taxes I pay go towards?

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 07/06/2024 23:33

I’m bottom 10pc and I’d pay this if it was guaranteed to go where it’s needed and not vanity projects or to their mates.

MiddleAgedDread · 07/06/2024 23:30

I already pay more than £1k a year more in tax in Scotland than if I lived in England and the situation on all those things is no better!

Snead808 · 07/06/2024 23:30

Reugny · 07/06/2024 20:29

You can't pay income tax if you aren't working or have pensionable income over the tax threshold.

Or do you expect my 5 year old child or her 11 year old cousin to pay income tax?

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For god's sake Whitesapphire is obviously not suggesting children pay tax. There are plenty of adults in this country who are able to work and contribute to the system, but don't. That is what they are referring to, and I don't believe you don't understand that.

maybeinanotherpie · 07/06/2024 23:30

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 21:37

I already pay that by using private education and private medical and saving the government money on top of paying many multiples of 2000 in tax over decades.

Happy for others to step up.

How about everyone else? You need to be helping the vulnerable

ReadingSoManyThreads · 07/06/2024 23:28

Whenwillitgetwarm · 07/06/2024 21:05

No I wouldn’t even though I can afford it. The Tories need to explain why taxation is at a 70 year high but services are shit. Where’s the money going? Mates? PPE VIP Lanes? Where is our money today?

I’m sick to death of being asked to throw more money into an ever expanding black hole.

All I see is more demands that higher earners on PAYE like me get shaken down for more and more. And not only are we asked for more but we are insulted at the same time.

No more until a full independent audit is done.

100% this!

skyfalldown · 07/06/2024 23:25

absolutely. being a higher tax payer (scotland so even higher than rUK) is a privilege - I just wish they'd actually use it for this stuff 🙄

endoflevelbaddy · 07/06/2024 23:12

I read somewhere that using the bs calculation Tory policy would cost £3k Grin

TheHateIsNotGood · 07/06/2024 23:04

Yep I'll pay an imaginary £40pw if we cut 50% of civil service jobs, renewing any necessary staff contracts with real-life T&Cs, same treatment to local council workers and reform the NHS to cut the obvious wastage/secured contracts/middle-managers/non-jobs/Trustees.

Reduce paperwork/targets/monitoring/etc nonsense for Teachers so they can get on with their jobs. Stop promoting the dickhead teachers without any personal responsibilities (mostly young men) to SLT levels just because the Board likes the cut of their suit, etc. Accept that being a good educationalist does not also confer great budgeting/economic, medical/paediatric diagnostic and parenting skills upon you.

If everyone would just try and stay in their lane a bit more, whilst helping others along the way, I might pay £40pw for that.

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 22:59

9,000 for Bupa medical and health insurance must be because you have a lot of pre-existing medical conditions. Just got a Bupa quote for my dh. It came in at 1,200 per year and he is over 50.

Tickytocky · 07/06/2024 22:58

GodzillaAttacks · 07/06/2024 20:11

But it wouldn't happen.

They'd take the money and not do it.

Look at all the tax money they've squandered over the years, that could have fixed any number of those things.

You're making the assumption they actually care about the general public. They care about keeping their own wages

THIS. With bells on.

Lovelygreen24 · 07/06/2024 22:51

@LeiaOrganaBananaHamock bupa. £9000 is crazy! I can see why the extra £2k appeals to you. I think if my private insurance was anything over £2500 a year I'd say yeah, give it to nhs

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Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:50

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:25

FFS, which part of ‘it’s a false claim’ don’t you understand?

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I really don't want a fight but what part of irony don't you understand? 95% of the responses on this thread have got it. Of course the £2k rhetoric is bs...hence my day dream of how I would spend it.

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DodoTired · 07/06/2024 22:46

I am fine with that. Even though I am an additional rate taxpayer, f**ck it, 2K a year aren’t material. IF there will be a result. However I agree that tax free allowance should be just abolished and everyone should pay taxes.

also still pissed about some people choosing to work part time and topping up with UC, not sure what can be done about them though… will probably be impossible to weed them out from those who legitimately can’t work full time

LizzieSiddal · 07/06/2024 22:44

onlyconnect · 07/06/2024 20:11

Isn't the figure mentioned over 5 years for a "family"? If that's two tax payers it's £200 per year each.
Absolutely I would.
What a shame it's not true.

This! 2K over 5 years is nothing if we can get the country back to thinks working again. I’d give double that.

Bbq1 · 07/06/2024 22:40

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

Well said.