AGAIN! Something must be done

How on earth did that dog get put forward for rehoming if it had two previous biting incidents to its name . 2 different people bitten.

Therein lies the never put a healthy dog down that some Rescues will cling to .
No Kill is fine if these animals are not in pain and will be kept as a Long Term Resident of Rescue . Though I'd argue what kind of life is that ?
Especially for dogs it is very artificial and not good for their mental health.

Someone will come along and think "I can do this . I can offer this dog the home it needs"
If they can provide it , and the training , and the healthcare and importantly the savvy to know when enough is enough and recognise its pain cannot be controlled and euthanise it .
But what's the chances of this happening ?

There;s one on a Rescue site that is a young adult bully dog , not house trained , not good on a lead , mouthy andmild hip displaysia so needs ongoing health care /pain relief .

Doesn't need rehoming, needs putting to sleep.

There;s one on a Rescue site that is a young adult bully dog , not house trained , not good on a lead , mouthy and mild hip displaysia so needs ongoing health care /pain relief .

WTAF would you invite this dog into your home ?
If the fit isn't right and he is returned it would be devastating for him and his confidence .
If you kept him you are putting your family at risk . (Says he's ok for children 10+)

@Sulley2222 what a load of shite

Poor woman. And that dog is a hideous looking thing, it looks more like a gargoyle.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11992905/Rescue-dog-owner-lost-arm-pet-bit-suing-RSPCA-200-000.html

An example of a rescue not giving the new owner information about the dog having bitten twice before

Rescues are known for downplaying the danger of these dogs not just in the UK but the USA as well.
The idea of the bull breeds needing to be friendly towards humans, well yes that was necessary so that although they would attack other animals as in dog fighting, they would not attack the human that tried to separate at the end of a dog fight.Whilst dogs that would have been human aggressive would have been culled in very earlier years, with the anything goes breeding of now there is no limit to what is mixed in with this type.
The population of XL’s although rising dramatically still does not make up a large number of all dogs, so the figures for attacks are still disproportionately large for XL’s.
You are citing the very irresponsible owners of these dogs which no doubt they are, still does not take away from the fact it is the dog at the end of the day which is attacking, otherwise where are all these rampant attacks from other breeds with irresponsible owners.
I love your Chihuahua’s bite more stance which is exactly the nonsense that the breed apologists repeat over and over.An ankle scratch from a chihuahua is laughable to a throat ripped out by an XL.
Unfortunately again you are using the same breed apologist stance that it’s the media’s doing. This isn’t so.Dog victims be it human or other pets are all over social media.
You don’t need to be convinced of anything by the papers when you and you family neighbours and friends are aware of a child adult or pet being mauled by this type of dog.

So as a veterinary professional you are saying that different breeds do not have different behaviour characteristics? Even though most breeds were established for their useful behaviours rather than their looks? A gundog that has been bred to have bite inhibition is going to be less likely to bite than a breed that was bred to fight. A breed that was created to be a lapdog is going to behave differently to one created to guard and protect. Yes, good training and management of any dog makes a difference but not all dogs are coming from the same starting point.

XL bullies may have become more popular than they were but they do not outnumber labradors, Poodle crosses, jack russels, German shepherd's etc. And yet the number of fatal attacks vastly outweighs all of those put together.

There needs to be a better way of managing dangerous dogs other than banning the breed. That's not because there isn't an inherent problem with the breed, it's because the idiots who like to deliberately breed dangerous dogs will just develop a new one like they did with the XL bully.

"veterinary professional" is clearly not a vet. because you'd just say "I'm a vet". But "veterinary professional" sounds more important than "I'm a vet nurse".

Veterinary professional is clearly a euphemism for 'airhead who is besotted with dogs'

Can I asked what a vet professional is? A nurse? A vet? A receptionist?

I don't really understand you point. XL bullies have risen in popularity. But they disproportionately account for deaths of people.

No one has said other breeds don't attack people or even occasionally kill people. A Rottweiler killed a baby in the next street to me. A good while ago. It was all over the news. Had it have been followed by a consistent stream of death caused by Rottweilers, it would also be in the news .

If doodles kill 6 people in the next 5-6 weeks you can bet it would be on the news.

I'm so sorry...I bow to your expertise, education and experience...that extends to BBC news.

My thoughts exactly 🙄🤬
"I am a veterinary professional of over 20 years.....[blah blah blah -I'm a pit bull apologist- blah blah blah] appeared in the media hence none of them have been demonized and banned"

Why are you defending these mutant creatures?

Bull breeds were not ALL bred to kill bulls. There are very many bull-breed dogs, some of which were bred for companionship. In addition to this, a breed that is bred to attack other animals generally must be obedient and trustworthy towards it's owner in order to take direction and not turn and kill it's owner! The degree of dilution in the genetics of a dog that is NOT purebred but actually a crossbreed is going to have a massive dilution of original characteristics..and the original characteristic was never dog-to-human aggression anyway. It really isn't comparable to certain breeds with a non-mixed lineage.

No. Epigenetics are real. Dogs that are bred for specific tasks have a deep drive to carry out those tasks. Just like how border collies who have never lived on a sheep farm have a strong drive to herd their families or other pets and springer spaniels who have never gone pheasant hunting have a strong drive to flush birds. Dogs who were bred to fight bulls to the death, have a strong attack and don't stop drive. It's not just their enormous strength, they have an instinct to attack and not stop until they or their target is dead.

You would be surprised to see how many XL bullies would have a fair deal of genetic heritage in common with Labradors. Bully x Labrador was a very popular cross breed for a number of years. Also, labradors are not a 'status' dog and will therefore statistically be lucky enough to have more responsible owners nurturing them to have a tolerant nature. This is not so with Bullys.
Does anyone remember the uproar about Staffordshire Bull Terriers when they became a popular status dog? It was the same old crap. Now they are no longer the status dog of choice and all the talk of banning/culling etc has magically disappeared.

In my career I have seen horrific attacks by Rotweillers, German Shepherds, Border Collie, Labradors, Mastiffs, Boxers even the beloved Labra-bloody-doodle (to which a colleague oost an entire buttock and half of her thigh)...none of them appeared in the media hence none of them have been demonized and banned.

Okay but the actual stats on dog-related deaths in the UK point to a clear pattern, regardless. Labs aren't killing people, XL bullies are:

I am a veterinary professional of over 20 years. I have also worked in dog rescue for almost all of that time..
I have cared for, fostered and owned many hundreds of dogs that would count as an XL Bully. An XL Bully is actually a cross-breed and is not recognized as an actual breed by the Kennel Club. This means each individual can have a very varied genetic profile of any number of dog breeds. it is in fact just a type of dog whose body conformation will fit into the governments arbitrary list of measurements, much like the Pitbull. Certain other breeds of dogs could fall within these measurements, I sadly saw an old man's Labrador-cross seized as a 'Pitbull' for fitting these measurements which shows just how flawed this is.
There is NOTHING Inherently wrong with bull-breed dogs who are actually known to be extremely friendly towards humans (which was necessary when bull-breeds were first bred in order to cultivate a good working relationship with their owner) however not always so great with other animals, although this is a case by case trait.
When a 'breed' becomes overly popular, as with XL bullies, their population rises dramatically, this means that they will statistically appear to be responsible for a higher numbers of attacks. These individual attacks can be if higher severity which is mainly due to the irresponsible nature of many XL bully owners, the large number of this breed and also their natural strength. Let's face it; more Jack Russell and Chihuahuas attack than XL's but they certainly will not inflict as much damage.
Unfortunately people who really know nothing about this 'breed' buy into the media hype and with absolutely no experience or knowledge of their own will demonize a dog that most professionals will tell you are no bloody different in temperament than any other dog as long as they are in the right and responsible hands!
In my career I have seen horrific attacks by Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Border Collies, Labradors, Mastiffs, Boxers even the beloved Labra-bloody-doodle (to which a colleague lost an entire buttock and half of her thigh)...none of them appeared in the media hence none of them have been demonized and banned.

I am a huge dog lover but unfortunately these traits have just been bred into this breed. It happens with all types of dog but the traits are just less severe. I have a standard dachshund she is so lazy, so chilled, so sweet but then there’s just something in her that flips like a switch and she’s fierce and pray driven. I couldn’t introduce her to any small furries for that reason. I have to remember she was bred to fight badgers. Likewise I have a Labrador and his has very specific characteristics that have been bred into him. Previously had a collie x who could not help trying to round us up all together would be very anxious if we were all in different places.

I think even a rottie has the same potential as an XL why they got the bad reputation, I don't really know enough about XL other than the bad press, I wouldn't like to argue with either , I have had enough trouble with Jack Russell's lol

The law requires licences for breeders but the bad guys get around this by farming out the bitches to various people who's 'family pet' then has a litter of puppies. The police don't seem interested. Samantha Poling made an excellent documentary for BBC about a guy who is breeding dogs with genetic mutations - there were some dogs which could hardly stand, and others that are likely to be deaf and blind, or vicious. Violent thug who breeds ‘extreme’ dogs exposed - BBC News

I'd rather take my chances with a rottie than an XL bully