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AGAIN! Something must be done

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Singersong · 07/06/2024 12:22

Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

XL Bully owner was celebrating birthday when she was mauled to death - as videos emerge of her defending breed

An XL Bully owner killed by her dog had just come home from celebrating her birthday when she was mauled to death.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed

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mossylog · 09/06/2024 23:55

Martha23 · 09/06/2024 23:47

Oh god I didn’t know that 😟 Very sad stats but you can’t deny the xl bully attacks are far more common and they are in fact a dangerous breed.

Absolutely, the fatalities from XL Bullys are over 40 times more common than Jack Russells (based on people killed per year). And, of course, Jack Russells can only kill babies whereas an XL Bully can kill just about anyone.

lawnseed · 09/06/2024 23:50

All these dogs and their owners should be dumped on Anthrax Island and left to get on with it. Make regular drops of dog biscuits, cans of Red Bull and burgers. I personally resent having to share the planet with humans who are this reckless and deluded.

Martha23 · 09/06/2024 23:47

mossylog · 09/06/2024 23:41

Jack Russels can be dangerous to babies but the poster is still minimising.

Three babies have been killed in the last forty years in the UK by three different Jack Russels. They were unattended as far as I can tell, and in two cases other dog breeds were involved.

About 13 staffies have killed people (including adults) in the UK in the last 20 years.

About 13 Bully XLs have killed people (including adults) in the UK in the last 4 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

Oh god I didn’t know that 😟 Very sad stats but you can’t deny the xl bully attacks are far more common and they are in fact a dangerous breed.

DysonSphere · 09/06/2024 23:45

Those pocket and micro look like grotesque frankenstein parodies of dogs.

They both also look like they are suffering. The eyes of the 'pocket' one look desperate frankly, I actually feel sorry for it.

mossylog · 09/06/2024 23:41

Martha23 · 09/06/2024 22:45

Anyone who would leave a baby alone with any breed of dog is an idiot. But how many people have been killed by a Jack Russell?!

All xl bully’s should be euthanised imo

Jack Russels can be dangerous to babies but the poster is still minimising.

Three babies have been killed in the last forty years in the UK by three different Jack Russels. They were unattended as far as I can tell, and in two cases other dog breeds were involved.

About 13 staffies have killed people (including adults) in the UK in the last 20 years.

About 13 Bully XLs have killed people (including adults) in the UK in the last 4 years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

List of fatal dog attacks in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

SavageTomato · 09/06/2024 23:12

I want to know how and when DEFRA and the relevant border agencies allowed pit bull dogs into this country in the first place. The DDA has been in place since 1991. That means that pits should not be possible to own here. So who the fuck let the descendents of Kimbo into the country???

BlackFriYay · 09/06/2024 23:09

And here is what they call a "micro" bully.

Just what the fuck, honestly.

It doesn't even look like a dog.

AGAIN! Something must be done
BlackFriYay · 09/06/2024 23:05

Well I'm not bored of reading these threads because the general consensus on them aligns with how I feel about it myself.

I'm sick of seeing them out and about around the area in which I live, half of them without a muzzle and some even without a lead. I truly wish they would hurry up and become extinct. Maybe another chav dullard should arrange another of those big "bully meet ups" somewhere secluded and let the situation sort itself out.

Has anybody seen the "pocket" ones? See pic. I walked past one of these today. The dogs breathing was absolutely terrible, it sounded like a fat old man with sleep apnoea. Just walking down the street at a normal pace.

It's cruel to create animals like this.

AGAIN! Something must be done
DysonSphere · 09/06/2024 22:55

I can't believe the apologists on here. You clearly care nothing for human life. People like yourselves are probably in a large way responsible for this poor woman's death as she probably listened to people like you on the internet saying it's the owner, not the breed. As long as you love them and don't abuse them all will be well....

This woman was only 23 years old, not having lived long enough to gain enough life experience to discern people speaking with an agenda from those speaking from fact as regards these animals. Probably believed the Nanny dog myth too.

But as long as the dogs are alright...

Martha23 · 09/06/2024 22:45

Rottweilermummy · 09/06/2024 22:11

Cockapoos, labradoodles etc etc, are all mutant breeds what were once called mongrels, now they have a name but because they are smaller less dangerous no one worries about them obviously they can't do quite as much damage to an adult as an XL, a pit bull etc but my rottie has had smaller breeds like cockspoos jump at her and be vicious biting her nose , and small dogs can be just as dangerous to babies, I'd never leave a jack Russell in a room on its own with a baby,

Anyone who would leave a baby alone with any breed of dog is an idiot. But how many people have been killed by a Jack Russell?!

All xl bully’s should be euthanised imo

Rottweilermummy · 09/06/2024 22:25

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 22:12

Hi @Rottweilermummy, another dumb as a rock dog apologist I see!

Not at all yes there are dangerous dogs which should not be allowed , but it's not every dogs fault if they attack regardless of the breed , every dog is bred for a purpose , that's why there are different classes at crafts, each owner is responsible for the training of that dog and how they are in public, if your dog is vicious it should definitely always be on a lead and muzzled, if another dog comes up to yours and, either gets in their face or has a go/ attacks, yours retaliates whether on lead or not who's dog is in the wrong?? And Is it the dog that's in the wrong or the owner?

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 22:12

Hi @Rottweilermummy, another dumb as a rock dog apologist I see!

Rottweilermummy · 09/06/2024 22:11

Cockapoos, labradoodles etc etc, are all mutant breeds what were once called mongrels, now they have a name but because they are smaller less dangerous no one worries about them obviously they can't do quite as much damage to an adult as an XL, a pit bull etc but my rottie has had smaller breeds like cockspoos jump at her and be vicious biting her nose , and small dogs can be just as dangerous to babies, I'd never leave a jack Russell in a room on its own with a baby,

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 22:11

@Willywaitingforbreakfast 'This discussion is boring', well you seem to be very drawn to it, feel free to save yourself from boredom and leave the thread.

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 22:09

@Escothesia
'veterinary professional' @Sulley2222 will be a dog besotted, pitbull apologist volunteer who sometimes interacts with vets.
@Willywaitingforbreakfast is clearly another dog besotted, pitbull apologist.

Willywaitingforbreakfast · 09/06/2024 22:08

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I am a dog owner and dog lover. These XL bullies are terrifying. It’s horrific to find out yet another life has been taken and the family of this woman will never be the same.
Many, many people feel the same way as the OP.

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Escothesia · 09/06/2024 21:36

Obvioypusly not an actual vet as they have to get better alevels than a dr.
So maths would likely feature in that with logically trying to claim it is the increased numbers of them. No matter how many there are there shouldnt be this number of attack or deaths. Most dogs are not xl bullies and when did you last see a random dog attack and it wasnt a xl bully.??
The issue is the fatal attacks which have gone up hugely. Attacking their owners too. Adult men unable to fight them off.
When the dog walker died from her own xl bully with other dogs the dachshund didnt get put down as it still didnt attack even with the other ones attacking.
Afaik xl bullies are a pit bull mix. As that is not allowed here they shouldnt havebeen either.

The video the other day of the neighbour attacked but mostly ok, i note the owner presumably hasnt had the dog put down...

Frankly we could do with some huge civil suits againsr the owners. I understand that the dogs are supposed to be insured. But how many of the recent attacks have they been insured. Clearly the one attacking the neighbour was
A - not on a lead
B - not muzzled

I feel like it is an xl bully i see at a car boot locally. It is unmuzzled, unnecessarily close to many people and children.

Are the smaller ones from a different genetic line?

Relatives have a large dog probably a staffie. It is huge. Really generally large dogs shouldnt be brought to visit other children.

My friend didnt agree with me saying dc wont be goinv into house with bully dog. Howver he had no odea and was shocked when i showed him what xl bullies look like

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 21:15

@JammyJellyfish
I'd not heard of the Adam Watts case. What is WRONG with people, why are they so besotted with dogs and unable to see the danger?

JammyJellyfish · 09/06/2024 19:31

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/06/2024 15:58

Therein lies the never put a healthy dog down that some Rescues will cling to .
No Kill is fine if these animals are not in pain and will be kept as a Long Term Resident of Rescue . Though I'd argue what kind of life is that ?
Especially for dogs it is very artificial and not good for their mental health.

Someone will come along and think "I can do this . I can offer this dog the home it needs"
If they can provide it , and the training , and the healthcare and importantly the savvy to know when enough is enough and recognise its pain cannot be controlled and euthanise it .
But what's the chances of this happening ?

but even experienced dog handlers are getting killed by dangerous dogs. This kennel owner got asked to rehabilitate a dog by ‘save our seized dogs’ group & was attacked & killed. This group tries to save dogs which are classed as dangerous. Left his 5 children orphaned. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-59781502.amp

Adam Watts

Man killed by dog 'died doing what he loved' - BBC News

Friends paid tribute to "a hero in the dog world" after Adam Watts was attacked at his kennels in Angus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-59781502.amp

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 17:53

OldPerson · 09/06/2024 17:35

Something is being done. The dogs are sorting it out. They're not being looked after properly and they're killing their owners. One way or another, whether the dog kills a child or adult, the problem will sort itself out. Tragic, yes. Ruthless, yes. But the problem sorts itself out.

Yes, the dog attacks and as a result is shot at the scene or euthanised later. But wouldnt you prefer it if the dogs could all be euthanised without humans having to be killed or maimed first?

OldPerson · 09/06/2024 17:35

Something is being done. The dogs are sorting it out. They're not being looked after properly and they're killing their owners. One way or another, whether the dog kills a child or adult, the problem will sort itself out. Tragic, yes. Ruthless, yes. But the problem sorts itself out.

beergiggles · 09/06/2024 17:24

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/06/2024 16:08

How on earth did that dog get put forward for rehoming if it had two previous biting incidents to its name . 2 different people bitten.

I guess the rescue centres are somewhat trapped. If they euthanise the animal then the misty eyed dog lovers will get angry and stop donating.
They wont want to keep the animal because it's a menace & a liability, so they palm it off onto the first person who is dumb enough to take it on.