AGAIN! Something must be done

Utterly delusional. Scary. Shame the police haven't taken the dog. It will attack another dog again, just a matter of time. She even rewards it afterwards with it's favourite dog food. You can't make it up.

WTF have you been drinking to write such nonsense?🙄

At least in 10-12 years time this breed will have mostly died out unless bred illegally. It's not their fault but they are too dangerous to exist. I actively cross the road when I see these things. Complete morons stopping to have chats to owners about how lovely the dogs are.

i am really confused. What didn’t stop the 12 year olds killing someone? People and dogs are not the same.

Are you suggesting we set up dog prisons for these dogs? Have a trial? Have purpose built prisons for them where they are kept in a kennel all day and let out once a day. And they can’t socialise with eachother so only out for an individual walk? Who would be staffing these? Since even the owners of these dogs aren’t safe.

who has passed off the 12 years olds murdering someone as thought and tumble?

It still did not stop the 12 year olds from killing some one. So do we kill them too? or are we supposed to pass it off as rough and tumble, because kids can think, and know right from wrong?

@mossylog
The owners are cretins, all of them.
I was encouraged to learn that in the attack mentioned by @Tessabelle74 the animal has been seized and will be destroyed. I hope that things may start to change as the cretins realise this will happen to them too.

@mossylog what's terrifying is that a grown man can stamp on one of the thing's bricklike heads and it apparently barely registers and it can still give chase.

"My dog only nipped your dog because you were being hostile to me."

It's scary what bullshit people come up with to excuse themselves from any responsibility. They actually believe it too.

Some of the owners really are clueless, make all kinds of excuses for their XL Bullies even after they've repeatedly mauled other dogs in public. The warning signs are there, they just don't want to see them!

This FB exchange was really striking (I've omitted the picture of smaller dog's injuries)— one woman was saying she was hounded off of local FB group by people saying her dog had mauled a Jack Russel. She plays down the incident, saying her Bully only 'nipped' it, only for another woman to comment on the post showing a picture of another dog who'd been attacked by this woman's Bully a month before.

Tessabelle74 that is horrific, I hope your friend and her poor dog recover quickly. I can't imagine the horror and fear she must have felt. Some monstrous thing of 50 plus kg throwing her dog around like a rag. Staffs are usually only about 14kg so for a bully it would literally be like tossing a toy around. Its horrifying. I hope the idiot owner does time if its found to be XL type and unmuzzled. Its tantamount to running around the park with a loaded gun.

Great🙄

I wouldn't be surprised if half of them end up in my neck of the woods. XL Bully haven.

Something has to be done about this free for all breeding that's going on.

That's why she rushed straight off to social media to try and spin the narrative in her favor, she knows she is in deep deep shit.

Luckily there were witnesses to prove it was her dog doing the biting, it was throwing the poor staffy around like a rag doll by it's ears and head, he has really nasty puncture wounds to his head and his ear is badly torn, not to mention the trauma to both of them.

You replied while I was typing, sorry. Excellent news.

What have the Police said, given that an XL Bully shouldn't be out in public without a muzzle and lead?

I think this is where the BSL should really kick in. Any misdemeanours at all, whether on dogs or people, should result in the dogs being seized and euthanised.

This doesn't even sit under 'dog on dog, not our problem', as the owner is breaking the law by having the dog unmuzzled. I would also add the injuries to the owner, but the usual line here is that it's difficult to tell which dog did it.

She was arrested and is on bail, the dog has been seized and will be destroyed. It's the dog I feel sorry for most, it wasn't his fault, she's bred him this way, but he absolutely needs to be PTS. Scariest if all is that's she's bred puppies with him so there's at least 5 of his offspring out there with the same genetic make up, tragedies waiting to happen!

Your poor friend, I'm so sorry, she must be very shocked and traumatised. As well as in pain and very concerned about the wounds to her hands.
It's beyond belief the people are allowed to have pets that do this much damage to other people on their pets.
And as usual the owner is a moron who runs off shreiking that it was someone else's fault 🤬🤬🤬
Fucking hell 🤬
I hope the owner is fined heavily at the very least and the dog destroyed.

The police should immediately confiscate that woman's dog, it's a disaster waiting to happen, and she's an irresponsible owner.

Next time it could be someone's child running about on the grass or something. This is why owners should have training and licencing with a points system so encounters like this get logged.

My friend and her dog were attacked by an XL bully on Friday, luckily her dog is a staffy or it would likely have been killed, she's also got terrible wounds to her hands from trying to protect him. The woman involved is now posting all over social media that it's the innocent staffy at fault! They're a menace because they're too often owned by people like this!

No idea. I can't even begin to understand putting my life at risk like that, but you might be into something when you say a hero complex might be running strong. Saving these poor misunderstood animals. 'Oh look, everyone says they're dangerous, but I am proving them all wrong, my skills at dog handling are superior...'

I love my dog and think he’s a genius but he’s not, he’s an animal with animal instincts. If I said “stop you’re hurting him!” to a child who thought he was playing rough and tumble, that child has the cognitive ability to understand my words, a dog does not. It’s incomparable.

The dogs are not ‘at fault’ but they’re genetically and intrinsically dangerous. This is due to humans and bad breeding and it is terrible that dogs have suffered too. The owners should receive the maximum sentence for manslaughter if their dog kills someone else. This is a man made problem but these dogs are too dangerous to be pets in someone’s home.

Parents are responsible for children, owners responsible for dogs, that's why I'm not putting the whole blame on these dogs
Look at you comparing dogs to children, oh what a surprise!
You really believe don't you that the dogs mind is comparable to a child's mind. You really want to think that the dog, with enough training, will be able to tell right from wrong like a child does.

Of course it's not the dogs fault. A dog has no capacity to make moral choices and therefore cannot be blamed for anything. For the same reason we cannot blame the lion when it kills a gazelle, the lion is following its impulses and instincts and it cannot do anything else.

Yes dogs need to be trained in order that they are subordinate to their owners. However an animal with that much power and aggression will never be subordinate to a human; it is too aware of how easily it can overpower and kill the human.

The OP post was that these dogs should be banned and yes they should or at least be controlled like all other dangerous breeds , my Arguement is really why these dogs have done what they have, and its mainly down to human intervention, how they've been bred and have come to be in ownership, so in that sense it's not the dogs fault but humans . A dog needs to be trained properly the owner needs to show the dog that they are the boss not the dog, so many people during covid got dogs for the sake of it , having no idea or care for how a dog should really be looked after that includes training , socialising and picking up their crap.
Just changing the subject, these 2, 12 year old that have killed, yes they are old enough to know its wrong , but are the parents not to blame too, why were they out? , were they not taught that its wrong to hurt someone, never mind kill, Parents are responsible for children, owners responsible for dogs , that's why I'm not putting the whole blame on these dogs

I hope he at least had the foresight to take out life insurance
I think that's unlikely. Too reckless, or feckless to plan ahead like that, or to see insurance as a worthwhile use of money.