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AGAIN! Something must be done

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Singersong · 07/06/2024 12:22

Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

XL Bully owner was celebrating birthday when she was mauled to death - as videos emerge of her defending breed

An XL Bully owner killed by her dog had just come home from celebrating her birthday when she was mauled to death.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 19/06/2024 08:49

MayonnaiseOnMyChips · 19/06/2024 07:15

Owning an XL bully is like having a tiger in the house, WHAT is the fascination with them?
I am terrified of them

Unfortunately propaganda by the pit bull lobby has convinced people they are just misunderstood big goof balls…..until they snap.Then everyone tries to blame the owner.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 19/06/2024 08:44

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 21:24

Thanks for linking to this. According to the report:
'The 73-year-old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. The dog, an XL Bully is believed to have been living at the woman’s address at the time of the attack. The dog was put to sleep, while another dog also believed to be an XL Bully was taken into secure kennels.'
Sounds as if the woman who was attacked was living with that dog and another of the same type.

I thought that that it was her own dog but it says the owner has been spoken to.I wonder if she was a visiting grandmother or something.

MuscariFan · 19/06/2024 07:55

HeadacheEarthquake · 18/06/2024 22:46

Not your stereotypical owner... I wonder if she was convinced to take them by someone :(

There was reference to the dog’s owner as a separate person in news articles - presumably her son’s/grandson’s dog?

MayonnaiseOnMyChips · 19/06/2024 07:15

Owning an XL bully is like having a tiger in the house, WHAT is the fascination with them?
I am terrified of them

Itsonlymashadow · 19/06/2024 06:47

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 21:17

@Itsonlymashadow
Thank you for filling us in on the situation with the Presa Canario. Any 'furmummy/furdaddy' with one of these knows full well that they are a dangerous breed.
The publicity around pitbull type dogs will have given certain dog devotees an appetite for the feeling of power that they get when others are terrified of your dog. Your prediction that comparable breeds will grow in popularity is sadly likely to be right🙁
I'm so sorry about the attack suffered by your daughter🙏

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It’s not problem. I find the history of dogs really fascinating. How it impacts behaviour, looks, breed traits etc. whether things are genetic and/or environmental.

I actually got interested in it looking into the incorrectly named ‘cocker rage’ about 25 years ago when I was looking to get my first dog as an adult.

I grew up with chihuahuas, who were all fantastic. Not snappy, not aggressive, well behaved dogs. So ending up spending far too much time looking into why we had great ones when so many are awful and it’s grown from there. It’s a bit of a hobby for me.

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 23:20

@HeadacheEarthquake I also wondered that, maybe she was hiding/protecting them for someone?

HeadacheEarthquake · 18/06/2024 22:46

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 21:24

Thanks for linking to this. According to the report:
'The 73-year-old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. The dog, an XL Bully is believed to have been living at the woman’s address at the time of the attack. The dog was put to sleep, while another dog also believed to be an XL Bully was taken into secure kennels.'
Sounds as if the woman who was attacked was living with that dog and another of the same type.

Not your stereotypical owner... I wonder if she was convinced to take them by someone :(

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 18/06/2024 21:32

Thanks @Itsonlymashadow, I looked up Caucasian shepherds, they're like bears! Yikes. Coming soon to a park near me I guess.

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 21:24

HeadacheEarthquake · 18/06/2024 19:57

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/xl-bully-attack-bartley-green-29374373

And another. Not fatal but 73 year old woman mauled.

Thanks for linking to this. According to the report:
'The 73-year-old was taken to hospital with serious injuries. The dog, an XL Bully is believed to have been living at the woman’s address at the time of the attack. The dog was put to sleep, while another dog also believed to be an XL Bully was taken into secure kennels.'
Sounds as if the woman who was attacked was living with that dog and another of the same type.

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 21:17

@Itsonlymashadow
Thank you for filling us in on the situation with the Presa Canario. Any 'furmummy/furdaddy' with one of these knows full well that they are a dangerous breed.
The publicity around pitbull type dogs will have given certain dog devotees an appetite for the feeling of power that they get when others are terrified of your dog. Your prediction that comparable breeds will grow in popularity is sadly likely to be right🙁
I'm so sorry about the attack suffered by your daughter🙏

HeadacheEarthquake · 18/06/2024 19:57

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/xl-bully-attack-bartley-green-29374373

And another. Not fatal but 73 year old woman mauled.

Itsonlymashadow · 18/06/2024 19:00

Also my daughter was the victim of a dog attack. The dog (owned by a relative) had her head in its mouth. She was only 9. I had my toddler ds in my arms and was scared the dog would kill him if I put him down. My (now ex) H kicked the dog in the ribs and it ran off. Plenty of dog breeds wouldn’t have. Luckily dd was only bruised on her head, but there was a hole that needed to be glued where her ear meets her scalp.

My kids never went in that house again. It’s absolutely terrifying, she wouldn’t have survived had it have been an XL bully or similar types of dogs.

Itsonlymashadow · 18/06/2024 18:55

Gonna be honest, I do like a fairly big dog.

I am also very emotionally attached to my dogs. However, no I would not put them above another human beings life, if it came down to it.

But honestly, the Presa Canario is a fairly rare breed in the Uk. But I would my allow my kids to be in the same house with one.

Many countries have had similar problems with this breed that we have with XL bullies. Certain states in the US have them banned Australia does do. Like the XL bully the PC was responsible for a huge amount of dogs attacks in the US (and I think Canada) despite not being a popular breed. Also has a history of being bred for fighting.

But it’s also a huge dog bred for protecting livestock. If the PP has a farm in a country with large predators, then that breed would make sense, though.

I think once XL bulky numbers drop the Caucasian Shepherd will be one of the next big breeds people get that will become aggressive. Livestock guardian dog, very territorial and should live with the flock. I can see them becoming more popular on social media already.

While I support the ban on XL bullies I think more needs to be done about irresponsible and/cruel dog owners.

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 18:22

Misthios · 18/06/2024 17:58

I think the "furrydogmum" username tells you all you need to know about the attitudes of that poster about her lovable soft as butter wouldn't touch a fly just a big softie nanny dog and definitely not a threat animal.

I mean, anyone who thinks they are the "mum" to an animal is a bit lacking in critical thinking skills.

Yep, my thoughts exactly!
Furthermore, having an animal like that as a pet is a way of positioning yourself at the top of the dog owner hierarchy. A way of signalling that you have specialist & high calibre dog owning abilities and therefore have a high calibre dog requiring specialist dog owner abilities.
Just like road man and blow up doll!

Misthios · 18/06/2024 17:58

I think the "furrydogmum" username tells you all you need to know about the attitudes of that poster about her lovable soft as butter wouldn't touch a fly just a big softie nanny dog and definitely not a threat animal.

I mean, anyone who thinks they are the "mum" to an animal is a bit lacking in critical thinking skills.

Tulipshaped · 18/06/2024 16:51

I would be scared of him if I saw him. Sorry @Furrydogmum but that's the truth of it.

Furrydogmum · 18/06/2024 16:48

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 18/06/2024 16:42

Bit tasteless to post photos of large, aggressive breeds looking for admiration on a thread about people dying because of aggressive breeds.

I am not looking for admiration, my dog does not look like the ones people typically think look terrifying as he is not cropped in any way shape or form, nor is he aggressive. He is often mistaken for a large lab!
I would hate to offend anyone so admin, if you think my picture is in poor taste, please delete it.

Thanks

yumyumyumy · 18/06/2024 16:44

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I'm sure you think so but I'm allowed to disagree.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 18/06/2024 16:42

Bit tasteless to post photos of large, aggressive breeds looking for admiration on a thread about people dying because of aggressive breeds.

Furrydogmum · 18/06/2024 16:40

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beergiggles · 18/06/2024 13:41

yumyumyumy · 18/06/2024 13:20

They look terrifying don't they. Would never let my DS stay in a house with a dog like that, no matter how well I knew the owner.

Yes too much of a risk. Dog enthusiasts are typically too emotionally attached to the animal to be objective about it. They are strongly inclined to put dogs above humans and will prioritise their pet over your child.

yumyumyumy · 18/06/2024 13:20

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 13:16

I have a Perro de Presa Canario
These creatures should not be kept as domestic pets.

They look terrifying don't they. Would never let my DS stay in a house with a dog like that, no matter how well I knew the owner.

beergiggles · 18/06/2024 13:16

I have a Perro de Presa Canario
These creatures should not be kept as domestic pets.

Furrydogmum · 18/06/2024 07:30

TrixieFatell · 18/06/2024 00:43

My daughter left her friends house early today. They have a border collie who she says was acting in a way that made her feel unsafe so she said she had to go home suddenly. So I may widen it to all dogs.

Too many people have BCs without realising the exercise reqs. An under exercised, over stimulated BC is not safe around children either. I consider my 9st lap dog bullet proof, I don't however put him to the test!

TrixieFatell · 18/06/2024 00:43

Furrydogmum · 17/06/2024 21:28

I have a Perro de Presa Canario. My 9yr old nephew comes after school a couple of evenings a week, he has two friends from the next street that call for him. On the evenings his friends know he won't be here they sometimes call and ask to see my dog! I do wonder what they've told their parents - I wouldn't let my children go to a house with an unknown to me very large breed dog..

My daughter left her friends house early today. They have a border collie who she says was acting in a way that made her feel unsafe so she said she had to go home suddenly. So I may widen it to all dogs.