AGAIN! Something must be done

@ginasevern ye me too

I've seen that the propensity to over sentimentalise everything now has increased to the point where people can't seem to think critically anymore. They can't discipline their children, can't train their dogs. Why? Because they tell themselves that it's cruel to do so? Do they lack confidence? Over identify with these thick, ugly creatures? Perhaps they have low self esteem and literally see the creatures as the archetypal underdog whom nobody loves. Perhaps this is how they feel about themselves.

Some people need to be kept under control and told in no uncertain terms what to do/what not to do and there's no one around to do that anymore. Too many adult adolescents around now. Governed by hysterical emotions and no brakes on their behaviour. Like their dogs.

Whatever the reason, politicians need to get their heads around the fact that there are people living freely who are too basic to even look after a hamster, let alone an out of control dangerous animal.

Totally agree. Let stupid people be eaten by their stupid big dogs.

As long as these dogs are only killing the owners - what's the problem?

I don't think they should be legal to own

When they were banned I didn't think there should be a cull but recently I've been thinking it's probably best. The video makes me despair for humanity a bit though!

I lose no sleep over an idiot who is stupid enough to own one of these things and it kills them. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

But these idiots do not live in isolation, do they? They have family members, neighbours, children, people coming into their houses to fix the boiler or whatever. People who are stupid enough to have a dog like this are not the sort of people who will ensure their animal is trained, muzzled, housed securely. So these animals DO pose a risk to people in general not just their owners. Which is why they really should all be culled.

Normally I wouldn't jump on a breed prejudice bandwagon but it's clear that XL bullies have been bred specifically with the tendency to random aggression because it goes along with the huge sizes. They are far too inbred and the random aggression is very much known about in the states where this breed originated.

Really? REALLY?? Unless "your cat" is a tiger or a lion its vicious attack is going to leave you scratched and bitten, but not dead or permanently disfigured.

They are not "big softies". They are mutant chavbeasts which should be culled. No justification whatsoever for these animals in a civilised society. Cannot believe there are still numpties out there defending people's rights to own this sort of uncontrollable, vicious animal.

I was saying they're not bad dogs they just have an extreme hunting instinct, like my cat. He tore up my arms and legs when he was little

Absolutely agree.
The so much talk of bad owners is basically the propaganda of the pit bull lobby or in this case the XL bully lobby.
Nothing can be allowed to get in the way of the unscrupulous making money.

It's not the bweeeed, it's the deeeed😂😂

Absolute bloody pond life if you believe this and deserve all the maulings you get!

I'm a multi dog owner, small and large. It would impact good owners of lovely dogs but councils should impose strict rules on dog ownership (I. E. Social housing no pets) as let's face it, that would cover most of the incidences, and perhaps more broadly a very expensive licence for dogs over a certain weight/size for all residents. Maybe £1k a year. Nice little earner for the councils too.

It'd harsh to penalise good owners in order to get rid of these bastard things but I can't honestly see how the problem of thick twats owning nasty dogs is going away with the current rules.

Natural selection at play.

I don't like dogs, as I got bitten by my neighbours Rottweiler when I was 9, so I am 100% not a dog person. The psychology of the owners is fascinating to me. I can understand why someone might want a lab or a labradoodle because they are objectively quite cute but an XL Bully is not only dangerous but they incredibly ugly too.

As a pp said it's got to be either a status thing of displaying your (often not wealthy) wealth, misguided notions that the dog will protect you or your DC or you want to intimidate people generally. All of which points to some kind of defective critical thinking skills. The woman killed describing the dog as her son? Bonkers, there is something not quite right going on here with the people who want to live with these dogs. Either socially, cognitively, emotionally and/or psychologically.

The dog's body language appears to be one of confusion and reluctance in that dancing video!🙈 I felt afraid watching but she seemed completely oblivious to it. She was just a young lass, and likely had the overconfidence of youth poor girl.

Perhaps the dog had been purchased from a previous owner who cropped it's ears and made it fight. People do not give full histories when selling these animals. Second hand sellers/home breeders are often irresponsible and I'd like legislation that holds such breeders and sellers responsible if a dog they sold later kills someone. That will put a chill on people breeding dangerous breeds in their flats and back gardens.

Also breeding licences.

They should all be PTS, to protect humans from themselves as much as the general public.

Nobody needs to own a dog unless it's a working dog. The public obviously can't be trusted to act responsibly now as behaviour and intelligence has markedly declined over the years. I think people should be restricted as to what breeds and size animals are allowed to be kept by the simple folks out on the streets who can't even be bothered to train their pets, or even raise their children properly if recent reports of the out of control violence in schools is anything to go by.

Restrict everyone to tiny mutts who can only inflict sore ankles on people.

Anyone who objects should then have to explain why cat owners are prevented from keeping mountain lions or tigers as pets and no, it's not because they don't sell large enough litter trays.

Agreed. Similarly I don't give a fuck if the owners get themselves killed, it's when children or other unsuspecting people nearby get killed that's it's really upsetting.

I would never have said that on here, but I 100% agree @ginasevern

ANOTHER one?! OMG. Poor girl.

YANBU @Singersong they all need to be put to sleep, and no more bred - ever. Killing grown up humans now! WTAF?

I live on a large council estate classed as a deprived area. If you think the dogs should be euthanised, I suggest we start with the fucking owners. Drugged up fuckwits and chavs of the highest order. Living on benefits and proud of the £1,000 quid they paid for the dog. They aren't fit to be looking after themselves let alone anything else.

The people who breed these dogs will just move on to another breed and ruin them too.
It is the dodgy breeders that really need stopping

See, people just don't listen.

This isnt an upbringing issue. Ffs, it's like banging your head off a wall.

The people who are breeding these dogs are the ones who cut the tails and the ears.
It it must be linked as these breeders are selectively breeding for strength and aggression.

So i wouldnt argue cause, but I would definitely argue correlation

If they were wild animals coming into urban areas and mauling people to death they'd be eradicated. The breed needs eliminating, the proof is there to how they've been bred.

We have had (still have 1) ddog off the Dangerous Dog list... In the decade of each one being with us nobody has ever been mean or cross or abusive to them. Neither one has shown any mega negative behaviour towards us.. Information on ddogs and holding a grudge /resentment is very interesting reading.. Those ddogs that have been mutilated could have been unsubconsciously 'trained' to hate humans.. I would like to see stats for xl bullies who are not butchered and have had the same family from a very early age and been properly socialised..