AGAIN! Something must be done

I've just spent a while going through a breeders website (in the USA) I won;t give them a free advert by naming them.

There's a pairing of a 165lb dog ( that is 11 stone 7lb ) and a 120lb bitch .
A load of information about the bone , the girth , the structure . The breeding lines .
The aim to give the biggest puppies. There will be waiting lists and people clamouring to buy them.
They are hideous , their tiny cropped ears, saggy face folds , front legs set at almost 90 degree angles from the body . Lots of 'great hip joint and patella'

Why would someone want this in their home ?
This is in the USA but it is perfectly obvious they're in the UK

Yes I replied to you because you seem to have taken such offence to her being referred to as a girl. Women are often referred to as girls, just as young men are often referred to as boys. Personally it doesn’t offend me. There are much bigger issues here and I find you focusing on this trivial point very strange. Yes she was an adult but a very young adult who wouldn’t have as much knowledge or life experience as some and was clearly very naive. I just think these dogs need to be banned in Ireland to stop things like this from happening.

So you replied to me not saying that because?

As I said, pretending she was a child isn't kind and disrespectful.

Turning women into children as some sort of defence of them isn't a positive thing.

If you don't like other people's comments take it up with them, instead irrelevantly posting at someone else

I didn’t say you specifically said she deserved it. I’m just saying focusing in on someone referring to her as a girl is so trivial when you look at the situation. A young women suffering a horrific and untimely death.

Any dog can become dangerous with bad owners. The xl bully is just the latest in a long line to become the nutter's choice.

To this day I'm wary of jack russells. My friend's parents had one, and he was the most aggressive little prick of a dog, he bit everyone. Her Dad thought it was funny, he used to wind the poor dog up. If he hadn't been tiny, that dog would've killed for fun.

The difference with xl bullies is they're huge, and they can weigh more than the average human. I wouldn't have any dog of that size and weight. As others have said, once the xl bully dies out it'll be some other breed being coveted by arseholes.

At what point did I say she deserved it?

But she was a grown woman. Not a girl. She made her own decisions, making out she was a child is hugely disrespectful to her.

Making her out to be a child isn't kind. How is it helpful, respectful or kind to make out she was child?

And your 'whatever', then claim you said it because other people (not me( were saying something else suggests you know that.

When people go 'it's the owners, not the breed', what do they propose is done - ban the thick idiots who make up 99% of XL bully owners? I mean, I'd love to, but it's not exactly feasible. The dogs, through no fault of their own, have been bred into a genetic dead end; they're an abomination and need to be culled en-masse, as humanely as possible.

The only people who would willingly own these dogs are feral criminals looking to intimidate people, or deluded bleeding hearts who think not liking a dog breed created for tearing things apart is akin to racism.

That ought to be against the law. The children are in danger. Social services can't do a thing though, unfortunately.

A 23 year old woman has just died and people are basically saying she deserved it yet arguing it is disrespectful to call her a girl. Absolutely ridiculous. Cop on.

She was blinded by her love for it bless her, and ultimately its cost her her life.

Coming in through her door after celebrating her birthday, she was probably knackered. To then be on the end of that attack, horrific. Poor thing. RIP.

I think a ban is in order here.

Excellent and mature come back! 🙄

I completely agree. I know a family who has one of these dogs with two under 3s in the house. They think because they have been strict with the dog he is ok. Again, he is a big softy who wouldn’t harm a fly 🙄

With the sheer size and strength of them it is crazy to think if they turn an adult, never mind a child would stand a chance.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

She's one of them though. She said she didn't care for people's opinions on the breed and if they died she hoped she would go first.
She had 3 x out of control dogs.

Yes I agree.

The dog was not happy in that video either.

People are wilfully stupid. They refuse point blank to believe that their pet has it in them to kill. But they do. And there’s not much you can do or say to make them see sense. In my opinion anyone with an ounce of common sense would never own an XL Bully. They are genetically unsafe animals. But, try telling the owners that. Even with a violent attack or mauling resulting in death nearly every week people still insist on defending them to the hilt. It’s beyond understanding

Whatever

No sympathy with idiots who own these animals when it goes tits up, don't give a shit for the dogs or the owners getting hurt / killed.

Combination of it being inbred too much, poor ownership - seems to be a ‘type’ of human that gets one of these and just the sheer power of these dogs. Any poorly bred/poorly managed terrier with prey drive could be vicious, but while very unpleasant is unlikely to be deadly before you wrestle is off, these things have so much power you don’t stand a chance

Yes, they should all be PTS.

She must have endured a terrifying experience in her last moments and nobody deserves that.

She thought she knew better and she was proved horribly wrong.

But this is the whole issue with this breed, isn’t it? There are crap owners of all breeds, dogs cooped up with no training and exercise, sometimes mistreated on top. They’re not all killing their owners though, or causing life-changing injuries.

She wasn’t a girl. That’s hugely disrespectful. No matter how bad her choices were, she was a grown adult and made them herself.

Trying to infantilise her isn’t kind or respectful

@mossylog of course some dogs are more capable of causing more serious injuries/killing due to their size and their musculature, but there are plenty of examples of smaller breeds who have given people permanent scars or maimed people or other animals.

As I said, if you look back at the majority of dog breeds, most had jobs to do. It could be hunting, ratting, shepherding, guarding, tracking etc, but those breeds over many many years have been honed to specialise in the tendencies and traits needed to excel at those activities. Then stupid, greedy breeders come along and start corrupting the breed standard, fuelled by uneducated owners who have no understanding of the nature of the dog they are buying and what they need to become happy, well rounded dogs. And we’re all shocked at the outcome?

I own 3 large dogs. 2 are Belgian Malinois, a breed used by special forces, capable of parcouring vertically up the side of a building and defending rhino from poachers. They are far from ideal house pets. My other is a Turkish Kangal, a breed used to protect sheep in the mountains from wolves and bears, with a more powerful bite force than a lion.

I know what I have and it’s my responsibility to the dogs themselves, to me and my DH who live in the house with them, to my family and friends who regularly interact with the dogs, and to any other people or animals who may cross paths with them, to ensure that the environment I provide gives them the fulfilment they need in all aspects of their life so that they remain healthy, happy and stable.

If all owners took their responsibilities seriously, we wouldn’t have half the issues we have today, with any dogs.