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AGAIN! Something must be done

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Singersong · 07/06/2024 12:22

Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

XL Bully owner was celebrating birthday when she was mauled to death - as videos emerge of her defending breed

An XL Bully owner killed by her dog had just come home from celebrating her birthday when she was mauled to death.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed

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LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 21:56

SpudleyLass · 07/06/2024 21:43

Euthanise them all.

Yes. And ban the owners from ever owning a dog again. ANY dog. And if they are caught with a dog, it's taken off them, and the owner gets 5 years in prison.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 07/06/2024 21:52

The dodgy breeders who have been breeding XLs have been crossing XLs with Cane Corso for some time, so this breed will also have the dodgy bloodline.

What could go wrong Confused

DoubIeLeopardy · 07/06/2024 21:49

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 07/06/2024 21:32

I agree.

Attention is turning to the cane corso now. That will be the next status dog of choice for these idiot owners.

All over FB video feeds of Cane corso looking scary with voice overs telling you 'facts' including how a cane corso has a great bite force. Cane corso dogs wearing thick gold chains and bearing their teeth, followed by a cute shot of it snuggled up to the owners child. The dodgy breeders who have been breeding XLs have been crossing XLs with Cane Corso for some time, so this breed will also have the dodgy bloodline.

Fucking fools.

But yes it will just be breed after breed after breed.

I guess the answer has to lie in restricting breeding, but then that's a bummer for people like us who got our amazing dog from what would be condemned by MN as 'backyard breeders' but in reality were absolutely incredible dog owners and dedicated to raising the most healthy well adjusted litter they possibly could. And yes, litter singular. They had no plans to breed the mum again, and they didn't profit from it either. So I know it's not black and white, but we do need to accept that grossly irresponsible breeding is at the heart of this issue. Plus people just don't know enough about dogs, about their body language and signs of being uncomfortable and need for activity and space etc etc. So they might not mean to be shit owners, but they are 😬

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 07/06/2024 21:46

Always the same calibre of people who own these devil dogs. Status symbol for the chavtastics. Cull every single last one of them.

SpudleyLass · 07/06/2024 21:43

Euthanise them all.

Helengreggregson · 07/06/2024 21:42

Caerulea · 07/06/2024 21:38

If I see one of these types of breeds with mutilated ears or tail I judge the Fuck out of the owner, instantly & without a second thought. Nice soft ears & full tail = no judgement

Appearances can be deceptive. And anyway. How do you know it wasn’t a rescue dog when you see a dog like this for example .

Caerulea · 07/06/2024 21:38

DoubIeLeopardy · 07/06/2024 12:40

Not directly perhaps, but it's all part of shit dog ownership, and shit dog ownership is what causes these attacks.

If I see one of these types of breeds with mutilated ears or tail I judge the Fuck out of the owner, instantly & without a second thought. Nice soft ears & full tail = no judgement

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 21:36

Helengreggregson · 07/06/2024 21:29

Yes any dog can be unpredictable and attack but you are far less likely to lose your life being attacked by a chihuahua. I don’t know why anyone would want these dogs in their home. I don’t care how “well” they are trained.

Exactly this. 'well any dog can attack' is the most breathtakingly ignorant, ill-informed, and ludicrous comment anyone can make. When a poodle or chinuahua attacks you end up with a few stitches. When a fucking XL Bully attacks, your family is arranging your funeral. What a STUPID comment to say 'errr well all dogs attack.' I can't even. Confused

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 21:33

SpicyMoth · 07/06/2024 21:24

ANY dog is capable of this type of thing and statistically there are many other breeds which are far more aggressive.

Pretending it's just XL's because they're the "hot" breed to be reported on in the news, and they "look" aggressive (whatever that means) is incredibly naïve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

Oh FFS, that post is not even worthy of a response. 🙄

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 07/06/2024 21:32

DoubIeLeopardy · 07/06/2024 21:19

This is what I mean about it not being just shit owners or terribly bred dangerous dogs. People are breeding these monsters but then people are buying them for £££ so people breed them and people buy them and on and on.

Anyone who knows anything about dogs would run a mile from the shitty "breeders" these dogs are coming from.

Humans have fucked these dogs up to the point that yep, they're dangerous. There's no safe way to own one IMO. But it's not the dogs' fault, they're victims too.

I do think they all need euthanising tbh at this point. But it won't stop the actual fundamental problem. It'll be another breed next, and then another.

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I agree.

Attention is turning to the cane corso now. That will be the next status dog of choice for these idiot owners.

All over FB video feeds of Cane corso looking scary with voice overs telling you 'facts' including how a cane corso has a great bite force. Cane corso dogs wearing thick gold chains and bearing their teeth, followed by a cute shot of it snuggled up to the owners child. The dodgy breeders who have been breeding XLs have been crossing XLs with Cane Corso for some time, so this breed will also have the dodgy bloodline.

behindthemall · 07/06/2024 21:29

iamreallyabee · 07/06/2024 12:31

Maybe they are big softies as well but like with my cat who just had this prey switch when he was little and would start attacking me viciously, it's just an instinctive thing taking over them, I don't think they are bad

No, but guns aren’t deadly until someone picks one up and shoots it. We still banned them.

Helengreggregson · 07/06/2024 21:29

Yes any dog can be unpredictable and attack but you are far less likely to lose your life being attacked by a chihuahua. I don’t know why anyone would want these dogs in their home. I don’t care how “well” they are trained.

HeadacheEarthquake · 07/06/2024 21:27

SpicyMoth · 07/06/2024 21:24

ANY dog is capable of this type of thing and statistically there are many other breeds which are far more aggressive.

Pretending it's just XL's because they're the "hot" breed to be reported on in the news, and they "look" aggressive (whatever that means) is incredibly naïve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

Give over

Would you rather fight off a jack Russel or an xl bully

DoubIeLeopardy · 07/06/2024 21:27

SpicyMoth · 07/06/2024 21:24

ANY dog is capable of this type of thing and statistically there are many other breeds which are far more aggressive.

Pretending it's just XL's because they're the "hot" breed to be reported on in the news, and they "look" aggressive (whatever that means) is incredibly naïve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

Ok but what's the breed most likely to kill humans?

Mosquitoes bite and kill more humans than sharks (by many many many magnitudes) every year, but I'd still rather take my chances head to head with a mosquito.

Jack Russells can be arsey little twats but I could launch one into next week if it went for me. Not so an XL bully...

SpicyMoth · 07/06/2024 21:24

ANY dog is capable of this type of thing and statistically there are many other breeds which are far more aggressive.

Pretending it's just XL's because they're the "hot" breed to be reported on in the news, and they "look" aggressive (whatever that means) is incredibly naïve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

These are the dogs most likely to attack humans

The small terriers are known for being particularly vicious

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/list-of-dogs-most-likely-to-attack-humans-see-jack-russell-terriers-terrorising-liverpool-a6797711.html

LooneyLiberalSpaceWaster · 07/06/2024 21:21

DysonSphere · 07/06/2024 15:59

Yeah on a comment section about this poor woman's death people were referring to XL bullys' as nanny dogs.

Safe as houses around kids apparently. Used by the Victorians to guard the nurseries and keep the kiddos amused. I don't know where this idea comes from but it persists. I think people really believe it.

People have got this ridiculous idea from other people who have referred to Staffordshire bull terriers as nanny dogs.

I have a Staffordshire x Boston and someone said to me 'aw I love staffies they are nanny dogs' and proceeded to tell me the most elaborate story of their history....which was complete bollox. They were bred to fight other dogs. The men used to hide their injured dogs in the pram. These dogs were never bred to guard babies. On the plus side Staffordshire bull terriers were bred in such a way that all dogs showing any aggression to humans were culled. They culled any dog that they couldn't safely part in a fight.

There is a lot of ignorance, and it's not just coming from idiot XL owners.

To those who say all bull breeds should be banned, I ask does this include such breeds as Boston terriers? boxers? because anyone suggesting a Boston (also originally bred for dog fighting) is a menace is a bit dim.

DoubIeLeopardy · 07/06/2024 21:19

SloaneStreetVandal · 07/06/2024 21:14

Killer Kimbo, who has a history of violent offspring.

The perils of picking a suitable puppy for the kids! I mean how would one know???

This is what I mean about it not being just shit owners or terribly bred dangerous dogs. People are breeding these monsters but then people are buying them for £££ so people breed them and people buy them and on and on.

Anyone who knows anything about dogs would run a mile from the shitty "breeders" these dogs are coming from.

Humans have fucked these dogs up to the point that yep, they're dangerous. There's no safe way to own one IMO. But it's not the dogs' fault, they're victims too.

I do think they all need euthanising tbh at this point. But it won't stop the actual fundamental problem. It'll be another breed next, and then another.

ShoeHelpNeeded · 07/06/2024 21:19

I think it would help if they widely published why the breed is so dangerous. People blame irresponsible owners but thanks to this thread I have read about Killer Kombo and he was a product of brother and sister mating! Inbreeding will always cause issues. They need to spell out that the blood line is so poor that it leads to them just snapping. I wasn't sure euthanasia was the option and thought dog licencing would be better but after reading about the gene pool I can see how it's the only option. It's awful what people do to dogs in the name of breeding and organisations that praise deformities such a flat noses, docked body parts and over the top stockiness should be shut down. Breeding should be licenced only to stop this cruelty

SloaneStreetVandal · 07/06/2024 21:14

SilverShadowNight · 07/06/2024 12:38

I read that up to half of all XL bullies are descended from an American Dog called Killer Kimbo, who has a history of violent offspring.

Killer Kimbo, who has a history of violent offspring.

The perils of picking a suitable puppy for the kids! I mean how would one know???

Iaskedyouthrice · 07/06/2024 21:11

gillefc82 · 07/06/2024 18:58

And what about the owners of this breed who are responsible and are complying fully with the new rules? Their dogs will be the ones who are well behaved, correctly trained and cared for, relaxed and properly socialised and yet people are suggesting culling them too?

I’ve added some links to the YouTube of a dog walker who owns an XL Bully who is all of the above which those advocating for further action may want to watch. It’s not the XL Bully who is poorly behaved with no correction from its owner.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7ke37on6SIY?si=tgUDJXXrr6MYtudX

https://youtube.com/shorts/0GUfzqmI-Ac?si=LLTc0cNIAWd-rw_I

I dont like the way he speaks about people who are nervous of the breed or are wary. He makes me cringe.

I don't like them, the fight instinct is bred into their very core. I could not trust one and I hate the thought of them been in a house with children. Some of the language used on this thread has being awful. We are all learning, the replies to @iamreallyabee were toe curling. Some of you sound like lunatics and to be honest, you sound like the very chavs you hate so much. Imagine writing what some of you have written about a 23 year old woman who was mauled to death by a dog. Some of you need help. Some of you will be raising children. It's so messed up.

MuscariFan · 07/06/2024 21:10

ConsiderabloiRicherthanYow · 07/06/2024 20:28

She was blinded by her love for it bless her, and ultimately its cost her her life.

Coming in through her door after celebrating her birthday, she was probably knackered. To then be on the end of that attack, horrific. Poor thing. RIP.

I think a ban is in order here.

Probably pissed too, of course.

oakleaffy · 07/06/2024 21:07

SilverShadowNight · 07/06/2024 12:38

I read that up to half of all XL bullies are descended from an American Dog called Killer Kimbo, who has a history of violent offspring.

Not merely violent- but all out Killing - Human killing offspring.
children and adults- .

piningforautumn · 07/06/2024 21:05

As an aside, many of these animals do look more like a monster than a dog. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc, but it feels perverse to breed or seek out a dog that is frankly a freaky monstrosity and clearly looks like it was bred to kill, and then go on about how sweet and soft and cuddly they are. Strikes me as a form of mental illness, tbh.

dawngreen · 07/06/2024 21:02

I think with dogs with that strength you need to be able to read their body language, and how they react to every thing. And it makes me angry the tictok/twitter streams of hard men teasing small dogs. And the dogs get the bad rap for been small snappy things. And the next generation of hard man dog breed is already here, and even more are wanting them.

SloaneStreetVandal · 07/06/2024 21:00

tomates · 07/06/2024 20:38

When people go 'it's the owners, not the breed', what do they propose is done - ban the thick idiots who make up 99% of XL bully owners? I mean, I'd love to, but it's not exactly feasible. The dogs, through no fault of their own, have been bred into a genetic dead end; they're an abomination and need to be culled en-masse, as humanely as possible.

The only people who would willingly own these dogs are feral criminals looking to intimidate people, or deluded bleeding hearts who think not liking a dog breed created for tearing things apart is akin to racism.

You're spot on. Even in the most decent of families you'll find well intentioned but ignorant owners who think training a dog is completely beyond them (and it isn't, most dogs are really quite easily trained). Thus shed loads of family dogs are a law unto themselves - which can be a serious problem if your dog is a super heavyweight!