AGAIN! Something must be done

Their eyes are horrid. Deep set , dead and very porcine. Cold eyes.

This horrid piggy eyes Pitbull slaughtered it's gullible well meaning kind rescuer:

Actually yes. This is what I think. If you own a giant breed, I want to know that you have trained them very well and that you have sufficient strength and foresight *and tools and resources to prevent them from hurting someone or something even if they really want to. I don't want to hear that my kid is safe because you have faith in the dog's better nature and sense of judgement.

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Oh, and who won't refuse to muzzle them. I muzzled my very gentle sighthound occasionally to keep him off cats if I knew we couldn't avoid them at close quarters, and I considered that I was keeping him safe as much as the cats.

Never owned an XL bully, but I have experience of trying to walk a good-natured but very stubborn Rottweiler. There was no way I could have stopped him if he'd decided to head off and so I turned round and took him home after 5 minutes of struggling. I was completely dependent on his good will and good mood and that is not keeping a dog under control.

I love a giant dog, but they need to be kept by breed experts with adequate space and time, who can actually control them, keep them happy and properly exercised, and who both love them and understand how dangerous they can be when dysregulated or unwell.

These XLs are the result of inbreeding, that’s why they are so demented. The only safe thing to do is destroy all of them.

I had the misfortune of seeing a video of an XL attack (I immediately regretted watching it) and it was the silence of the attack that was so frightening.

Some people need protecting from themselves at the end of the day. This young woman has lost her life because she was too proud to admit the truth about these horrible dogs.

Why would anyone want to have something in their house that could kill them. Yes my dog can turn but he's not going to be ripping my limbs off. I just have to get on the sofa and he cant get me. I know someone who has two, refers to them as her soft babies and goes on how they wouldn't hurt a fly whilst they galore at the camera with those piggy eyes.

I'm shocked at the pit-bull type apologists on this thread.

About 20 years ago, I took on a colleague's Shih Tzu because it kept going for her child. Fuck me, that thing was vicious when she was triggered. Colleague bought her from someone advertising in the pet section of the Telegraph. They were also selling King Charles Spaniels and Westies. Basically a puppy farm. And it was so obvious when you saw the Shih Tzu. (I loved that dog. An absolute sweetheart when she wasn't triggered.)

Aggressive small dogs generally do less damage to adults than aggressive large dogs, but the cause is the same - either bad breeding or bad training. But, unfortunately, good training will never train bad breeding out of a dog.

Part of the problem in banning any given breed is in determining what breed any dog is. It's going to be necessarily subjective until we have a way of identifying a few gene sequences and saying that one side of the line is an XL Bully, the other is merely an Ugly Squashed-Face Fucker (there are a lot of those).

This is not to defend these dogs or their owners, but there is scope for a bit of a slippery slope here. The UK government's "Is it an XL Bully" checklist is not simple to read or (I imagine) apply. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-definition-of-an-xl-bully-dog/xl-bully-conformation-standard

Nobody deserves to die like this but I have no idea why people would choose this breed over all the other lovely friendly breeds! Like they want to prove a point!

That's exactly it. They seem to fall into two categories. They are either the scumbags who think it's cool to own the latest weapon/status dog and they get a kick out of sensing that others find their dog intimidating.

Or they are the daft, deluded sort who say 'but any dog can turn' or 'there are no bad breeds, only bad owners' and they think it's their job to get that same breed everyone sensible is shunning, just so they can prove everyone wrong. It's very bizarre when there are so many breeds out there that haven't been bred specifically for fighting or attacking, and so many breeds out there that don't feature regularly in the news for having ripped someone's throat out/arm off. But no, that's the sweet, misunderstood dog these people want and they won't be told otherwise. I imagine much like this DEAD WOMAN they also say things like 'I don't give a fuck if you think the breed should be banned, I don't give a fuck if you think my baby looks aggressive.'

I just don't know how many more of these awful stories they can read yet still keep trotting out the same old bollocks before the penny drops.

That is very bad..Assuming you didn't go through a bona fide rescue or else a breed club- both of these should {and do} seriously question a potential owner, to the extent of visiting and home checking.

I have been bitten twice by Jack Russel terriers, but they tend to nip and release- NOT do the wholesale mauling that an XL Pit-bully does.

A Jack Russell can be Yeeted off someone easily- one can pick up a JRT one handed- they are small dogs.

Good against rats and vermin- but nothing at all like an XL bully in terms of damage.

Oh good grief..a bloody Balloon release.
So utterly chavvy and sooo bad for animals/ that ingest the sodding deflated balloons. No animal lover would ever want one.

XL Bullies attract the unthinking and dim, it seems.

What is wrong with people?

@Iaskedyouthrice Completely agree re some of the comments. I may disagree with some posters on this issue, but everyone should be capable of keeping their contributions respectful when talking about a young woman losing her life in such a tragic way.

Rottweilers, Dobermans, Pitt bulls etc have all been "the most dangerous dog" at some point. It isn't because the breed is more dangerous than any other breed. It's because the size of them makes them "status" dogs. And every time a breed becomes popular, it creates a demand, which unscrupulous greedy people exploit by mass breeding inbred dogs, introducing bad genes into the gene pool, which then results in damaged dogs flooding the community. Who are often then owned by people who have no idea what they are dealing with.

Nobody deserves to die like this but I have no idea why people would choose this breed over all the other lovely friendly breeds! Like they want to prove a point!

As a recent first time dog owner I found it slightly disconcerting how easy it was to get a dog! I literally could have been anyone and there were absolutely no checks that I was actually going to be able to properly look after a dog and give it a decent home.

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That’s my thought exactly, at least it didn’t kill someone else.

Animals don't have moral responsibility. When we say they are 'bad', we mean their instinct is to do destructive things, not that they are knowingly causing harm.

Oh he's adorable

Darwinism in action. If you’re stupid enough to own one of these dogs and arrogant enough to think it won’t happen to you, natural selection will do its thing.

But they did! And people loved it! Please see here for the story of Christian: The lion who lived on the King's Road in the late sixties https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14240681

Also Harrods sold other things as pets including alligators and elephants... https://www.mylondon.news/news/nostalgia/harrods-pet-shop-elephant-lions-19948359

I can’t bear the “any dog can kill” crap. Yes, they can but they don’t…….
I’d rather take my chances with a chihuahua than an XL bully. Could the chihuahua bite me so I need stitches and I might have a permanent scar? Yep but an XL bully could rip me (and my children) apart so I’d die a horrible, terrifying and painful death.

I've seen her TikTok page and it doesn't seem that she had the fawn coloured XL with cropped ears, that she was dancing with, for very long.

Back in 2022-2023 the only dog videos she posted showed another two white and brown ones but no sign of the fawn one.

So we should expect the attacks to decrease by about 10 per cent a year for about 10 years ?