Sunak isn't a very good politician

Oh he wouldn't have left. He'd have been in his element hob nobbing with heads of state. No way would he have passed that up.

"Sunak isn't a very good politician" - in some ways that could be seen as a compliment.

Re: the election announcement debacle. I listened to a very good episode of the Tortoise Slow Newscast about what's gone on the last few weeks.

It said they refused to hold it indoors because they are historically made outside No 10 and wouldn't deviate from that; and he refused an umbrella in case it made him look out of touch making someone hold it for him. Ha! Ha! And that was just the beginning of a comically incompetent campaign.

I must say, Boris wouldn't have been stupid enough to leave a D Day commemoration early. While I will hear a great many things against Boris Johnson, failure to take an opportunity to schmooze world leaders and get photos with Zelenskyy is not one of them.

He’s one of the least shit Tories, and head and shoulders above Boris or Truss.

@AmpleFatball this is the best backhanded compliment that I have heard for some time- may we all aspire to be better than a woman who was outlasted by a salad item and the best known philandering liar in modern history!

I mean it’s hardly surprising- before entering politics Sunak was privately educated, went to Oxford and had worked at Goldman Sachs and a hedge fund, plus marrying a billionaire heiress who’s a former tax non-dom, whereas Starmer had been the Director of Public Prosecutions. On a basic level you have to respect that to even want to do that, let alone do it decently there is some desire to serve the public rather than just get your hands by any means necessary on more money than you can spaff away in tax havens.

By his own admission I don’t think Sunak knew anyone working class when he was in his teens, and I strongly suspect that won’t have changed. So making gaffe after gaffe when he’s being asked to show respect, empathy and be truthful to the plebs is hardly going to be his forte.

It’s true^
He was elected MP
because he’s got money, he also has good memory and speaks good, it’s not natural it’s the skill he learned at his school. When he speaks It looks like he is doing a task at a lesson and he is doing it very very well. He is also from minority so another positive tick. Then he came into position of premiership a bit by accident. But he is not clever politically and he is disconnected from real life that’s why he’s done so many small mistakes which are really telling.

Watching that Led by Donkeys thing on YouTube he was clearly ambitious and desperately wanted to work in banking and make a lot of money. He was even the head of the banker’s society at Uni where they played at making money on the stock market.
Why on earth he thought he would make a good MP and serve his country honourably, who knows. Might be conventionally intelligent but no emotional nous there at all.
Don’t know why Starmer gets so much stick. He’s pretty much a labour version of Cameron but less slick and upper class and more in tune with real life. He’s created a decent opposition party despite Labour being decimated at the last GE. Yes he’s a bit nasally, bland and stiff, not as fiery as folk would like, and has even changed his mind on policies. Can’t remember John Major who was equally as grey getting this amount of criticism.

Here's why the D Day incident was so important.

The current Prime Minister left a ceremony at which the PM had to be present... to go and do an interview because he wants to be the PM again after the election.

He deliberately bunked off a crucial Prime Ministerial duty to do an interview about why he should be elected back into office as Prime Minister.

It's absolutely appalling.

He is a typical example of someone who got where he is using family money and connections but who has no real ability or talent.

Just an entitled, useless and offensive little man with no sense of public service or respect for the majority of people in this country.

I am glad his appalling campaign is exposing him for who he really is. Everyday brings another error of judgement and sinks the Tories even lower...

He's not a political at all. He's got no political nous or the charm of a populist like Farage or Johnson (I.e. the post truth politician).

He's a City trader and a banker, that's his smarts. Starmer is at least a shrewd politican.

Define 'good'. He's probably good at being a 'meh' figure who will say what they tell him to say.

It has to be ironic, right? Nobody could be that stupid?

This a riff, used mainly by the far right or militant Cobynistas, on 'They are all the same'.

They are not.

Starmer is an ideal centre left candidate who had held important positions in this country and performed them well.

Sunak can only dream of being as intelligent and capable as Starmer .

There is a world of difference between them.

The not very bright section of the electorate who believed the bus slogan during the Brexit campaign.

No different to Boris, Truss, May etc etc… or any of the rest of them tbh. None of them are politically capable in any way. All of them self-serving.

Just to clarify, I was thinking more of the MPs with modest majorities who still stood a chance of being returned until this debacle which will send wavering voters elsewhere.

But you are right, Sunak is the latest in a long line of incompetent Tory leaders.

I'm beginning to think the £2000 attack wasn't so stupid after all. Having seen a clip of Mordaunt doing the same thing last night, shouting it out despite Rayner and Husain rebutting it, I now think it was a smart move to stick a figure in people's minds. I've seen people on twitter repeating it despite all the efforts to disprove it.

Even Rishi repeated it after the debate last night on his twitter. Some people will insist it's true now.

I'm actually starting to feel (very very slightly) sorry for some of the conservative MPs that will lose their jobs due to Sunak's stupidity..

Sunak is to the Conservative Party what Phillip Green was to BHS.

When the Conservatives lose it won’t only be because of Rishi, actually he was the best of a very poor bunch. Remember Boris and Liz. He will get the blame for the sins of the rest. Do I feel sorry for him, hell nah. Any one who joins that party know their track record of leader cannibalism.

I have no idea how anyone thinks the tories have done a good job. Fucks sake.

Sunak has lately been a gift to Labour. It looks like he wants to loose the elections. However, Stamer would have to deal with the same treatment than Boris. He will not last. I am concerned that the hard left would take over.

Is he really?

Eat out to help out, freezing tax thresholds for 5 years, Covid business loan fraud (10s of billions wasted) funding HS2 only to cancel it years later (as chancellor and chief sec to the treasury) he signed off the funding, thats £29 billion down the drain.
His National Service plan is a fucking joke, worthy of Truss, no thats insulting Liz, even she never came out with that gem.

He is a spoilt little brat, unfit for office, no one needs to be told "PM you should stay in France".... it should have been instinctive.

There are “good” politicians, and those who are good at playing the system.

Sunak might be “intelligent”, but I don’t think he understands the system very well, hence all the mistakes; and he will be annihilated sooner or later. Johnson and Blair on the other hand, knew exactly how to play the system to get what they wanted. That was how they were massive vote winners, and then did crap things at a time they knew they untouchable. Rabbit in headlights Truss didn’t wait to become “untouchable” before she did her mad things. The ones who make it to the untouchable stage then think they are God, which certainly happened with Johnson, who vowed to stay on for ten more years while Partygate castle burned to the ground around him.

Sunak never got anywhere as far this.