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Is this colder than most ‘junes’? So miserable

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Juga · 07/06/2024 07:35

No money to go abroad. No money to put heating on. Struggling to afford indoor activities for dd and just wanted some time outdoors in the sun. It feels like this is the coldest June I can remember? I also don’t get how this fits with global warming… though I expect I am missing how that works? Just so fed up of being cold, for literally nearly a year now!

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mydogisthebest · 07/06/2024 14:36

Wonderfulstuff · 07/06/2024 10:25

I think the average has been in the 20s so statistically normal. But I think as it has been so wet that everywhere just feels damp. If we could just have a few more dry days it would feel a lot better.

I am in the East Midlands and not been in the 20's here. 16 today, 17 forecast for tomorrow and then 14 for the next few days. Oh and rain most of the days too!

Absolutely shit weather and has been since last June

OhmygodDont · 07/06/2024 14:35

It’s June. It should be warmer than it is.

I shouldn’t need to wear jumps and hoody’s just to be able to sit inside my house.

yay it’s not too hot humbugs… it’s horrible most of the year 🙄

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/06/2024 14:33

I don’t wanna wear jumpers

JasonTindallsTan · 07/06/2024 14:29

It’s absolutely baltic. 12 degrees and windy here today. Rarely been above 15, pretty sure it’s not hit the 20’s at all yet this year. It has rained for what feels like 9 months. I’m cold and I’m damp and I’m sick of doing dog walks in the mud and wellies and needing copious towels to dry us both off when we come in.

Im also sick of gleeful ‘oh I love it like this, I hate it when it’s too hot’ type sentiments. When you get your ‘preferred way’ weather wise for around 10 months of the year if not more, have the good Grace to at least try and empathise with those of us who really struggle with the shitty low temps and gloomy clouds and biting wind and live for those Occasional warm and sunny Days. Also people who clearly live in areas where the climate is slightly more temperate eg - not the Fucking frozen north - who seem to be determined to not understand that everyone doesn’t have the same weather, you can bore off too.

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/06/2024 14:26

PiranhaPeaches · 07/06/2024 14:25

What you want doesn't figure. The weather doesn't care.

The weather isn't going to adapt to you, so you have to adapt to it. That's the reality.

@PiranhaPeaches

that may be true but it’s still shit weather and people are allowed to say as such.

PiranhaPeaches · 07/06/2024 14:25

RampantIvy · 07/06/2024 13:24

As they say though, there’s no such thing as bad weather, just inappropriate clothing

Please stop repeating this trope. It's getting boring. Wearing warm clothes still doesn't make the ambient temperature warmer. I love spending time outdoors, and am about to do some gardening. In warmer weather I would like to sit in my garden and enjoy the fruits of my labours, instead of looking at it through the window.

What don't you get about people wanting warmer weather and being able to wear fewer clothes, no socks etc?

What you want doesn't figure. The weather doesn't care.

The weather isn't going to adapt to you, so you have to adapt to it. That's the reality.

Sharptonguedwoman · 07/06/2024 14:21

StuffandFluff · 07/06/2024 14:09

I have been very interested in this for quite some time. I was at university when the global warming narrative (since rebranded as 'climate change' to cover all bases) was first coming to the fore - it was very lacking then (but I along with many other student environmentalists at the time lapped it up because it seemed to fit in with an anti-establishment, 'green' narrative!). Now it has become the mainstream narrative that is endorsed by the 'establishment' - anybody who tries to argue that the science is far more complicated, and certainly not 'settled' is automatically cancelled - anyone remember David Bellamy? https://www.palatinate.org.uk/tributes-paid-to-naturalist-and-ex-durham-academic-david-bellamy/
Anyway, I am aware that there is a great deal of disquiet in the USA about the inadequacy of their terrestrial temperature record, and I am personally aware that the UK Met Office has markedly decreased the number of official weather stations in recent years https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/. There is an interesting article here https://dailysceptic.org/2024/03/04/met-office-must-account-for-the-junk-temperature-data-propping-up-net-zero-insanity/
What really infuriates me is the fact that any open scientific debate has been all but completely shut down. It is an absolute nonsense to believe that the science on this matter is comprehensively understood and 'settled', or that dismantling our economy as we race too quickly for 'net zero' will not be the cure that is worse than the apparent disease! If the principal climatic drivers turn out not to be focused on carbon dioxide (and I don't think that will ever be readily admitted, even if it is true) then we are fools not to be focusing instead on making our society resilient to the sort of shocks that will result from extreme weather events in the future (changing climate will continue to exert significant impact, as it always has done, regardless of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels).
I am currently coming to the end of my lunch break - but I will try to find some links to some of the key scientists who have been trying to highlight the issues with climate science at some point over the weekend (credible scientists, including a noble prize winning physicist!).
However, it is important to note that the propaganda machine is now in full swing - and search engines like Google are very efficient at burying sources that don't comply with the current paradigm (and prioritising results for sites that attempt to discredit critical material - the ludicrously scientifically weak 'DeSmog' blog springs to mind!).

Will read this slowly and carefully. Thank you!

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 07/06/2024 14:18

It’s snowing here (Canada)

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/06/2024 14:16

Juga · 07/06/2024 11:30

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway

i was merely querying the temperature. I’m not trying to re do my GCSEs. Allow me a sweeping statement that it’s bloody cold for June 😬

LOL fair enough, sorry. 😆

Rewis · 07/06/2024 14:14

It has been so weird. I've been in the nordics visiting family for a while and it has been so hot for several weeks. Then I call my partner in the UK and it has been so cold. It has usually been the other way around or at least similar. Coming back next week. Might need to book a holiday for later if it doesn't get better 😅

Tomatina · 07/06/2024 14:10

VinnieVanDog · 07/06/2024 08:41

I live in Plymouth and it's been nowhere near 24 degrees, the highest was last weekend around 22 and all this week has been 16 with temp dropping dramatically in the evening - where do you live??

Agree - we're just back from a mini break in Plymouth. The weather was bizarre - in the mornings we were dressed in jeans, shirt, jumper, anorak. Freezing wind and grey. Then at around lunchtime the sun came out and it was glorious, so off came the jumpers etc, lovely to feel hot sun on bare skin, really felt like summer. Throughout the afternoon it kept changing from hot to cold as the clouds passed over. Both nights were very chilly though.

StuffandFluff · 07/06/2024 14:09

Sharptonguedwoman · 07/06/2024 12:46

Ooh, thanks. I'm a few years out of the game and not kept up with modelling techniques. I didn't know about the cherry picked weather stations either or the satellite data lack of conformity. Do you have a good link? Sounds as if I need to do some reading.

I have been very interested in this for quite some time. I was at university when the global warming narrative (since rebranded as 'climate change' to cover all bases) was first coming to the fore - it was very lacking then (but I along with many other student environmentalists at the time lapped it up because it seemed to fit in with an anti-establishment, 'green' narrative!). Now it has become the mainstream narrative that is endorsed by the 'establishment' - anybody who tries to argue that the science is far more complicated, and certainly not 'settled' is automatically cancelled - anyone remember David Bellamy? https://www.palatinate.org.uk/tributes-paid-to-naturalist-and-ex-durham-academic-david-bellamy/
Anyway, I am aware that there is a great deal of disquiet in the USA about the inadequacy of their terrestrial temperature record, and I am personally aware that the UK Met Office has markedly decreased the number of official weather stations in recent years https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/. There is an interesting article here https://dailysceptic.org/2024/03/04/met-office-must-account-for-the-junk-temperature-data-propping-up-net-zero-insanity/
What really infuriates me is the fact that any open scientific debate has been all but completely shut down. It is an absolute nonsense to believe that the science on this matter is comprehensively understood and 'settled', or that dismantling our economy as we race too quickly for 'net zero' will not be the cure that is worse than the apparent disease! If the principal climatic drivers turn out not to be focused on carbon dioxide (and I don't think that will ever be readily admitted, even if it is true) then we are fools not to be focusing instead on making our society resilient to the sort of shocks that will result from extreme weather events in the future (changing climate will continue to exert significant impact, as it always has done, regardless of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels).
I am currently coming to the end of my lunch break - but I will try to find some links to some of the key scientists who have been trying to highlight the issues with climate science at some point over the weekend (credible scientists, including a noble prize winning physicist!).
However, it is important to note that the propaganda machine is now in full swing - and search engines like Google are very efficient at burying sources that don't comply with the current paradigm (and prioritising results for sites that attempt to discredit critical material - the ludicrously scientifically weak 'DeSmog' blog springs to mind!).

https://www.palatinate.org.uk/tributes-paid-to-naturalist-and-ex-durham-academic-david-bellamy

kitsuneghost · 07/06/2024 14:09

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/06/2024 12:56

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

you might wanna go to doctors about that

it’s really not normal to be hot all day following just 30 mins of exercise

If you do it every day it improves your circulation so yes it can do

RampantIvy · 07/06/2024 14:06

It isn't like that everywhere in the UK @Sahara123. This is why there has been an unusually high number of threads on MN about the cold and wet weather that most of us are having.

It's been rubbish in South Yorkshire where I live. We have had 9 cm more rainfall in May than usual, for example.

WithACatLikeTread · 07/06/2024 14:06

I wouldn't mind being able to hang my washing out

A slight reminder that whilst it might be sunny in the south of England the North is most certainly not! Watching a school performance in jumper and coat.

Sahara123 · 07/06/2024 14:05

Heartbreaktuna · 07/06/2024 12:55

It has felt very cold. We had snow and hail here on Tuesday (Scotland).

Ooh where are you, I’ve just been singing the praises of sunny Scottish weather ! I’m central between Edinburgh/ Glasgow.

WithACatLikeTread · 07/06/2024 14:04

CaptainHaddocksPychotherapist · 07/06/2024 07:37

Put yourselves in jumpers and coats and go for a walk/play in thee park

I fail to understand why people do not see walking as acceptable when it's cold

Some of us struggle with the cold. I have Raynaud's and feel it way more.

Sahara123 · 07/06/2024 14:03

Droolylabradors · 07/06/2024 08:04

I'm delighted with this weather. Its hot enough and sunny enough to sit out in by the afternoon, but cold and crisp at night so amazing sleep with all the windows open. Heaven.

I agree. I’ve mentioned Scottish weather before , we’ve had some lovely sunny days mixed in with some more overcast ones , which is pretty normal here. In fact some cracking hot days too . Definitely no need for jumpers & heating , I’ve been in shorts and flip flops for weeks now . Nights have been a bit cooler but actually that suits me fine . I can’t say we’ve had non stop awful weather which stops me from going out.

RoobarbAndMustard · 07/06/2024 13:56

It did snow on 2nd June 1975.
I was at school wearing my green striped summer dress and was freezing.

therealcookiemonster · 07/06/2024 13:48

I am wearing 2 t shirts, a fleece zip up and sitting with my feet under the duvet

it's freezing

Fluffyc1ouds · 07/06/2024 13:32

We've had windows open and summer duvets on for a while but it's definitely not feeling like summer. I'm hoping the warm weather is being saved up and we might get a hot July and August!

RampantIvy · 07/06/2024 13:24

As they say though, there’s no such thing as bad weather, just inappropriate clothing

Please stop repeating this trope. It's getting boring. Wearing warm clothes still doesn't make the ambient temperature warmer. I love spending time outdoors, and am about to do some gardening. In warmer weather I would like to sit in my garden and enjoy the fruits of my labours, instead of looking at it through the window.

What don't you get about people wanting warmer weather and being able to wear fewer clothes, no socks etc?

AnnieP1 · 07/06/2024 13:17

Nearly the longest day of the year and it is still unrelentingly wet and miserable.
Walked the dog this morning in my winter puffa coat, wellingtons and could have done with a pair of gloves and a hat. Constant wind with driving drizzle.
Utterly f*ing soul destroying non stop wet, windy weather.

Watermelon197 · 07/06/2024 13:14

Has it always been this windy for so long?

alittlehopeisadangerousthing · 07/06/2024 13:08

I have SAD and if the rest of the so-called summer continues along similar lines my mental health is going to be fucked come autumn