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Is this colder than most ‘junes’? So miserable

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Juga · 07/06/2024 07:35

No money to go abroad. No money to put heating on. Struggling to afford indoor activities for dd and just wanted some time outdoors in the sun. It feels like this is the coldest June I can remember? I also don’t get how this fits with global warming… though I expect I am missing how that works? Just so fed up of being cold, for literally nearly a year now!

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mondaytosunday · 08/06/2024 09:53

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen it's a misconception that global warming means warmer summers everywhere - it means more disruptive and stormy weather which has been evidenced.
It was one of the warmest Mays on record but it certainly didn't feel like it, partly because of the rain. June hasn't been too bad so far here in London though.

Jifmicroliquid · 08/06/2024 09:49

Wet, windy and grey. Pretty much every day.
Sick of it.

Teateaandmoretea · 08/06/2024 09:44

VoteForBunnies · 07/06/2024 07:49

It's actually been the warmest Spring on record, apparently mostly due to overnight temperatures. I wouldn't have believed that as it's seemed so miserable, but the climate is changing. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/03/may-spring-warmest-record-uk-met-office

This is properly picking their statistics to make the point they want to.

Very specifically it has been warm in the north and very early spring was mild/ frost free. Okay.

That said I think the weathers been pretty average, just a bit wet. It’s perfectly normal to have temperatures in the teens in the summer, even in the south.

It’s not bikini weather today but central heating oh come on.

We’ll have a heat wave in a few weeks just before the school holidays I promise.

Garlicker · 08/06/2024 09:32

RampantIvy · 08/06/2024 09:28

Which site did you get those stats from @Garlicker?

Just the Windows weather app.

RampantIvy · 08/06/2024 09:28

Which site did you get those stats from @Garlicker?

Garlicker · 08/06/2024 09:22

Apparently the 8th of June was very cold in 1985!

You're not wrong. @Juga. May (where I live) was much wetter and less sunny than the historical average.

Is this colder than most ‘junes’? So miserable
Is this colder than most ‘junes’? So miserable
RampantIvy · 08/06/2024 09:22

10 degress and rain here. Glad I cut the grass yesterday.

balkanscot · 08/06/2024 09:17

In Edinburgh we had one gloriously sunny & warm mid-May weekend, and ever since then it has been absolutely shite. So fecking windy and one moment blazing sunshine, followed swiftly by torrential downpours. So, no chance in hell to be wearing Summer clothes/footwear. And it is freezing. Last night I had to dig around for my thickest cardigan and snood, my feet were 2 blocks of 🧊, seriously tempted to bring my parka around. PARKA! IN FECKING JUNE! 😭

Current temperature: 10. Feels like: 7. Booked a 2 week stay on Lewis in the first 2 weeks of July. Glorious beaches around, they say. 🧊🧊🧊🧊🥶🥶🥶 💧💧💧 I say.

Juga · 08/06/2024 09:09

It’s 11 degrees, very windy and raining today. Another lovely weekend!

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BigDahliaFan · 08/06/2024 08:41

Was really regretting having taken the electric blanket off the bed, had the fire on last night and the heating clicked on this morning. NW.

StuffandFluff · 08/06/2024 08:37

@Sharptonguedwoman

As promised yesterday, here are some further details of some useful academic sources that help give some perspective to the current anthropogenic climate catastrophe narrative.
I have recently read three publications, written by academics that pull together a great deal of the peer-reviewed scientific research on this topic:

1. Dr Judith Curry ‘Climate Uncertainty and Risk: Rethinking Our Response’.
A review of her book by Michael Kelly (Emeritus Prince Philip Professor of
Technology, University of Cambridge) supports it being an intellectually robust
assessment: "With climate models running too hot by a factor of 2 for 30
years, with everything that used to be called a weather event now a portent of
climate change, and with billions being invested against this as opposed to
other more pressing world needs, Judith A. Curry provides us with a much-needed and convincing rethink." She has taken part in plenty of online interviews/discussions - for example:

2. John A. Kington ‘Climate and Weather’
This is a* *survey of the climate history of the British Isles over the last 2000 years that “puts our present experience of weather into striking perspective”.

3. Dr Steven Koon ‘Unsettled - what climate science tells us, what it doesn’t and why it matters’
Again, Koonin has given plenty of overviews of his academic position online - for
example:
https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+koonin&sca_esv=b809e87fd372fe48&sca_upv=1&tbm=vid&prmd=nivmbtz&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVmfbbpMuGAxWFT0EAHfvOB8YQpwV6BAgBEBI&biw=1920&bih=912&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:a6f98766,vid:acyErLNL7kQ,st:0
However, with respect to Dr Koonin’s work, it is worth noting that if you
Google him, the results, in typical fashion, are biased to first return those
that are aimed to discredit him. So, it is useful to keep in mind his scientific credentials: he served as Undersecretary for Science in the US Department of Energy under President Obama; he has more than 200 peer-reviewed papers (in the fields of physics, scientific computation, energy technology and policy and climate science); he was a professor of theoretical physics at Caltech for thirty years and is now a professor at New York University. One of the principal critical reviews of his book was published in Scientific American. Despite the fact that Koonin was quick to publish an unequivocal rebuttal of the critical Scientific American piece (https://steven-koonin.medium.com/my-response-to-a-scientific-american-hit-piece-7b5811141137),the original flawed review still comes close to the top of any internet search for Koonin. Interestingly, Koonin had the opportunity to directly challenge a co-author of the Scientific American review. This features towards the end of a debate recorded between Koonin and one of the climate scientists whose name was listed amongst the article’s contributors. This academic was completely unable to defend the criticism -indeed, initially he tried to deny having contributed (until he was shown his name in the list of contributing academics!) … skip to the closing comments (at 1 hour 25 minutes) for the relevant exchange, if you don’t want to watch the entire debate:

As Dr Koonin states in the above debate, the critical review in no way reflects the actual content of his academic work, but Scientific American has refused to publish his rebuttal. In reality, Koonin’s position is extremely difficult to criticise because he only draws upon the actual scientific, peer-reviewed data that informs the main body of the IPCC's official reports. However, he notes that there is a significant disconnect between the science contained within the main body of successive IPCC reports and the summary documents that are subsequently released for the media and policy-makers (which tend not to accurately reflect the scientific findings).

Perhaps what we have most to fear is the fact that the climate narrative is being massively spun to serve a political agenda that is out of control, and now has the backing of an eco-industrial complex that is worth billions!

Restoring the Sciences: Rethinking Climate Risk with Judith Curry

Why do we have a “climate emergency”? Is it real? Or is it a fantasy? Judith A. Curry, one of our nation’s most prominent climate scientists, takes a sober l...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXomKN6eMz4

Noseyoldcow · 08/06/2024 08:29

Yes, it's cool for June, we had a very wet autumn, winter and spring, and it seems that the sun didn't even show its face at all until late May. But it's not actually raining, well not right now anyway, so I'll take that thanks.
The very wet and unusually cold spring is going to be a challenge for farmers, and harvests will surely be down. Just watch prices go up again....

Michiru · 08/06/2024 07:31

Highs of 16 degrees here this weekend.

I'm cold. I get very crabby when I'm cold.

I keep glancing at the thermostat thinking surely it can't still feel cold enough to want the heating on in June.

I'm really hoping for some real summer weather soon, but the forecast until the third week in June is still much of the same with yet more rain.

Willmafrockfit · 08/06/2024 06:47

the mud has dried up/is drying up, so i can take a walk, still wearing walking boots but getting more tempted to abandon in favour of trainers, the fields with buttercups and other wild flowers are glorious, but the heat from the sun is tempered by the colder wind

mydogisthebest · 08/06/2024 06:29

Chocolateorange22 · 07/06/2024 21:51

Nope I've been in shorts for the past two weeks

In the Midlands

You are obviously not in East Midlands because we have had shit weather and are still having shit weather

Restinpeacefavouritecoathanger · 08/06/2024 05:59

Definitely so, it's my birthday in the next couple of days and every other year recently I've been hot and baking I am definitely a autumn/winter person to be honest I dont enjoy it too hot I find it hard to motivate myself in that weather but it's definitely a lot cooler than normal.

echt · 08/06/2024 05:20

Juga · 07/06/2024 07:35

No money to go abroad. No money to put heating on. Struggling to afford indoor activities for dd and just wanted some time outdoors in the sun. It feels like this is the coldest June I can remember? I also don’t get how this fits with global warming… though I expect I am missing how that works? Just so fed up of being cold, for literally nearly a year now!

Global warming doesn't mean everywhere gets sunnier, rather that as consequence of raised global temperatures current conditions are more likely or disrupted and/or extreme.

JMSA · 08/06/2024 04:07

I'm in Scotland and could easily have the heating on.

RoobarbAndMustard · 08/06/2024 00:59

Printspped · 07/06/2024 15:43

i bought some garden furniture last year. The covers have been off 3 days this year so far. Abysmal weather and at the moment like you say, freezing for the time of year. We don’t half get shit weather here.

Don't buy garden furniture. Big mistake.
Now it going to be rubbish summers for the next 5 years.

Disturbia81 · 07/06/2024 23:34

Spudthespanner · 07/06/2024 23:24

@PiranhaPeaches

Sure, but it's the equivalent of throwing a toddler tantrum and going "I want I want I want" when no-one can change it. So your options are put the jumper on or be cold. There is no "make the sun come out" option.

There is the option of enjoying a bit of a moan about it all.

Also known as the "Take your jumper and shove it up your jacksie" option 👍🏻

Exactly, if were followed their advice there'd be no discussions ever. People are allowed to moan and chat and seek solidarity.

Spudthespanner · 07/06/2024 23:24

@PiranhaPeaches

Sure, but it's the equivalent of throwing a toddler tantrum and going "I want I want I want" when no-one can change it. So your options are put the jumper on or be cold. There is no "make the sun come out" option.

There is the option of enjoying a bit of a moan about it all.

Also known as the "Take your jumper and shove it up your jacksie" option 👍🏻

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 07/06/2024 23:17

It’s definitely cold and extra wet for the time of year I don’t care what the so called experts claim, in their region perhaps but not mine! The local music festival held on Bank Holiday weekend has been glorious sunshine and hot every single year since it started around 4-5 years ago, this year the park has been trashed, it’s an absolute mud bath. Daytime temps themselves haven’t actually been too bad for the most part (just very wet) but it’s clearly dropping quite low at night / early hours this week as my heating has been kicking in every morning having not done so for a while. My phone app says lows of 8 tonight but the weather forecast on the radio suggested temperatures in my area could drop as low as 3 degrees tonight, 3 degrees in June!!!!

I can cope with it being a bit cool, I work in a physical job so tend to easily warm up working and I don’t have the tolerance or complexion for proper hot weather, I am sick of the rain though. Nothing worse than being damp all bloody day.

BeardofHagrid · 07/06/2024 22:32

Antonio Guterres famously said we have entered the era of “global boiling”.

Certainly makes you wonder if he’d stick to that statement if he had to spend a couple of days here in June-uary. I suspect he’d beat a hasty retreat to the Bahamas or other exotic location where he could double down on his global boiling theory.

(Writing this in thermals and two fleeces, and still blinking freezing.)

Chocolateorange22 · 07/06/2024 21:51

Nope I've been in shorts for the past two weeks

In the Midlands

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/06/2024 21:37

Heat wave

heat wave

come on!!

🤞

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