To think parents of private education school children will be fine

Mental gymnastics right here.

So they use the state system at some point? Fine.

Private? VAT.

Easy.

“Because these don't convey privilege on the recipients in the same way as private education”

oh yes they do! I have a few high earning friends who use state schools and then tutor like mad at home and have gotten their children into top grammars or back into private education for secondary school. So like it or not, high earners using state education (in primary especially) also have a very significant privilege over other children in their same class!

It does not make sense on economic grounds because, as I mentioned above, it will end up generating very little net for net once there is the inevitable shift of students from private to state. If it was simply made for economic reasons, they would have gone with means testing the higher earners using state education as was suggested to Starmer by economists but very much ignored for the less income generating policy of (further) taxing private school users.

It's a tax break.

Almost every other discretionary purchase of the same value would carry VAT, it's a tax break.

"There is no VAT on tutors or afterschool clubs and extra curricular activities"

Because these don't convey privilege on the recipients in the same way as private education.

"This is a special tax dreamt up for private school users and them only!"

Who can pay tax for the privileges they are buying their kids.

Simple.

It is not a tax break if there is absolutely no tax on any form of ‘private education’ in existence in this country! There is no VAT on tutors or afterschool clubs and extra curricular activities…..! This is a special tax dreamt up for private school users and them only!

Why indeed? If all Labour care about is 'punishing the wealthy' and 'penalising success' because...ENVY!!! Then surely it would be even more effective to charge them for something everyone else gets for free? If you object to the policy on economic grounds, fair enough, but to suggest KS dreamed it up due to jealousy of the wealthy is beyond ridiculous.

They aren't asking for tax breaks on a discretionary purchase.

“protect your privilege“ ?! Wouldn’t high earners, wherever they choose to send their children to school, have the same ‘privilege’ you refer to?

Because this is a very silly idea from you designed to attempt to convince others to protect your privilege.

Also most schools get contributions for parents.

Then why not go for the bigger income generator that is the high earners using the very free state schools that are in such dire need of extra funding? The current ‘policy’ will end up generating pittance by the time you net out the extra funding needed to educate those leaving private schools to move into the state sector! And all the ‘extra’ income not spent on school fees Labour think is suddenly going to be spent on lots of extra niceties that apparently couldn’t be afforded before, will only go into ISAs (junior ISAs have a 9k allowance a year) and junior SIPPs not spent on imaginary VAT generating frivolities (this is generally how these people hang on to their wealth in the first place!!)

Yes. I'm absolutely convinced that Sir Keir drew up that policy motivated entirely by his envy of Nigel and Janet from Milton Keynes and their ability to pay fees at the local prep school. I'm surprised he could see to write it, blinded as he was by jealousy. He must sit there literally fuming at the injustice that denied him the same lofty heights of success in life.

Haha! But I bet they they would! It’s all down to envy at the end of the day, otherwise Starmer would means test the high earners using state schools and have them contribute a small sum termly or yearly to help fill this funding void in the state sector. He would raise more funds that way rather than simply going after the dwindling 7% of private school parents!

Well, you've convinced me OP. I was only voting Labour because I thought this policy was going to make people who used private schools unhappy because of my deep rooted working class green eyed chip on my shoulder politics of envy. Now I know you're going to be better off...well..I'm going to vote Tory now just to spite you. And I urge all Labour voters to do the same!

You are talking nonsense.

Making up things on the internet to fit a narrative.

" We have done that cliche thing though of moving to a nice small village, with a grammar school and effectively it is similar to their school already"

Hmmm, villages with a grammar school

Talking shite.

So in the time since you last posted you’ve arranged the money to buy another house your 3 children have been allocated places in the local grammar school (without presumably having an address in the area otherwise why move?)
And the private school your DC are currently at has advised it’s closing in the last week.

Calling bullshit on this! I assume you are posting this in a last ditch attempt to bring attention back to the VAT on private education policy prior to the election but I’m afraid nonsense scenarios don’t tend to garner sympathy.

NB/@Bluewhitered its Sir Keir

What’s your plan for if your DC don’t pass the 11+ for the grammar? You seem incredibly confident they will get places just on the basis of you living in the vicinity.

Grammar schools as they currently work are bad for poor kids, as they don’t usually get in, and being the “secondary modern” option has very negative effects on the quality of education provided (smell of failure hanging around the place, will struggle to attract good teachers etc.).

Ironically, the largest number of grammar schools and secondary moderns converting to comprehensive status actually took place under the administration of Margaret Thatcher. Thatcher didn’t want to de-grammarize the system as she was a big fan of GSs, but she basically had to do it because of demand from parents in these areas - parents were fed up with 11 plus pressures and with the rubbish standard of education provided by the secondary moderns.

Hopefully Labour will make a move against grammar schools in the next few years as well. At a minimum, I would like to see GSs focusing on kids from low income family. Given all that piffle about “social mobility” that GSs supposedly provided, they should be privileging kids from poor families, not providing “free private schools” for kids from wealthy families.

100k VAT over what period?

The simple mathematics doesn't work does it?

If its 3 kids across their whole school education it's a lot different to 3 kids just in secondary.

However, those 3 kids just in secondary could be 3 kids across 10 years so again, your simple maths doesn't really add up.