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Eww just found out my fiance voted UKIP before

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NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 19:29

Just that really. And the fact that he likes Nigel Farage and agrees with him. I feel very disturbed.

OP posts:
malificent7 · 08/06/2024 05:23

I'd just like to see a better NHS and a wage that reflects my skills and responsibility.

malificent7 · 08/06/2024 05:22

I don't understand why voting labour is lacking aspiration. AHP here and I want a labour government. I am very ambitious thank you and want to rise through the ranks . Im ambitious for my patients too...to survive and thrive. Just because I don't want to be a banker etc.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/06/2024 05:09

Michelle12A · 06/06/2024 19:54

Why do we all have to get political - can’t a relationship be based on love…

😂😂😂

PomPomtheGreat · 08/06/2024 04:54

NotGotAClue1 · 07/06/2024 06:47

Yes I think so. There are several other issues. He’s 14 years older than me, I think this is where a lot of our differences stem from as we’re from different generations. He does generally treat me nicely but there are times he can overreact to things and be really verbally aggressive out of nowhere. He has ptsd which he says causes this, but still this can be a lot. I would say he’s changed from when we first got together. He has become angrier, grumpier, we argue and obviously now I know this. We have nearly broke up a few times but it’s hard with our son.

Well, there's your actual problem, not how he votes.

Definitely don't marry him, at least not until a lot of those issues are resolved. And probably not even then.

MumofHennHals · 08/06/2024 03:14

anyone that doesn't vote Labour, or have Labour views is seen as the devil. It's pathetic.

MumofHennHals · 08/06/2024 03:13

iamtheblcksheep · 06/06/2024 19:48

Every one is entitled to their opinion. I’d never marry a dead beat who voted labour.

I have no time for any man that has no aspiration.

Bravo!

MumofHennHals · 08/06/2024 03:13

'Ew no sorry, deal breaker for me couldn't get past it'

SORRY WHAT ARE THESE REACTIONS?!

Can you not love someone anymore if you have different political views..

If he treats you well, you love him and your relationship is a happy one, who gives a toss 😂😂😂😂

QueenBitch666 · 08/06/2024 03:03

Farage is pro fox hunting. That's a relationship deal breaker for me

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 23:19

Aww, and I was so close to just wishing you a lovely evening. I haven’t misunderstood the quote at all. You’ve misunderstood my entire premise. There appears to be a massive gap in our communication styles and I can’t see any chance that we’ll resolve it before one of us (probably me tbf) loses interest. So shall we leave it there? Or do you really want to continue with an utterly pointless conversation in which nothing is achieved and both of us end up feeling irritated before we go to sleep?

AmpleFatball · 07/06/2024 23:02

Looking back at your earlier replies, you’re misunderstanding “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” too.

Freedom of speech does not mean that everyone has to like (or is prohibited from disliking) what you say.

AmpleFatball · 07/06/2024 22:53

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 22:37

Can you genuinely not see a difference between that poster saying ‘have whatever political opinions you want but if they aren’t the correct opinions, then nobody will like you’ and me saying ‘Ffs, everyone has different viewpoints and it doesn’t make them evil racist bigots if they happen to have different opinions to you - they still get to express those opinions as much as you get to express yours’? You think those two viewpoints are equally as restrictive?

But you’re completely misrepresenting what was said (which was, in essence, “everyone is entitled to their opinion”).

You’re saying that everyone should be entitled to their opinion except they shouldn’t be allowed to form a negative opinion of you based on your opinions…

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 22:37

AmpleFatball · 07/06/2024 22:27

A bit weird to reference 1984 when you - responding to someone pointing out that everyone is entitled to their own opinions - are saying “Nope, this is the way people should think”.

Can you genuinely not see a difference between that poster saying ‘have whatever political opinions you want but if they aren’t the correct opinions, then nobody will like you’ and me saying ‘Ffs, everyone has different viewpoints and it doesn’t make them evil racist bigots if they happen to have different opinions to you - they still get to express those opinions as much as you get to express yours’? You think those two viewpoints are equally as restrictive?

AmpleFatball · 07/06/2024 22:27

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 22:17

🙄 So exactly what has been said above then. Have exactly the same opinions as us, or nobody will like you. I thought that this single track way of thinking was a trait that we tried to discourage in childhood lest it be carried through to adulthood and we were left with adults who were only capable of thinking in terms of right and wrong? Unable to see any nuances.

You do realise that 1984 wasn’t an instruction manual?

A bit weird to reference 1984 when you - responding to someone pointing out that everyone is entitled to their own opinions - are saying “Nope, this is the way people should think”.

ByPeachJoker · 07/06/2024 22:20

The whole racism label argument and having a range of views and disagreeing with anyone who doesn’t share your viewpoint is all well and good but my biggest concern with UKIP voters is genuinely their IQ (whether general or social). The fact that they are willing to vote for a party off the back of a single raison d’etre with limited governance experience is so incredibly short sighted that it tells me that those people are far too dim and selfish. Whilst I don’t think UKIP voters are racist, voting for them is like someone voting for the BNP - it’s set up for a single focussed purpose which has limited impact on the other more important issues relevant to running a country.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 22:17

Scruffily · 07/06/2024 21:50

No-one is saying you can't have the freedom to like Farage. You just have to cope with the fact that other people may not like you as a result because, guess what, they have freedom too.

🙄 So exactly what has been said above then. Have exactly the same opinions as us, or nobody will like you. I thought that this single track way of thinking was a trait that we tried to discourage in childhood lest it be carried through to adulthood and we were left with adults who were only capable of thinking in terms of right and wrong? Unable to see any nuances.

You do realise that 1984 wasn’t an instruction manual?

Scruffily · 07/06/2024 21:50

No-one is saying you can't have the freedom to like Farage. You just have to cope with the fact that other people may not like you as a result because, guess what, they have freedom too.

Lilly11a · 07/06/2024 18:07

Anxiousheartbeat · 07/06/2024 17:17

The irony of people judging people for their politics, whilst calling someone with differing political views “bigots”.
😀😀😀

It is almost a symptom of Corbyn/ momentum/ mid to far left - we want everyone to have freedom to live how they like UNLESS you disagree with our version.

I had a short lived boyfriend who hated anyone who voted conservative . I did say at the time how are you going to win the election if half the population can tell you hate them .

StarlightLady · 07/06/2024 17:52

LlynTegid · 07/06/2024 17:50

Someone having voted UKIP in the past is not necessarily the same as liking Nigel Farage now. The former I might be able to accept and understand, the latter is not someone who I would want a relationship with.

True. But the OP says he likes Nigel Farage.

LlynTegid · 07/06/2024 17:50

Someone having voted UKIP in the past is not necessarily the same as liking Nigel Farage now. The former I might be able to accept and understand, the latter is not someone who I would want a relationship with.

StarlightLady · 07/06/2024 17:49

Indigococo84 · 07/06/2024 17:15

N0 one can tell you what to do. Only you know how much it bothers you. I’ve been married for almost 30 years. We don’t vote the same and never have. It doesn’t bother me. It doesn’t affect our love for each other. M we just have differing views 🤷

Differing views is one thing but we are talking extremist views from someone who pedals hatred and lies. And he claims he had a proper job because he used to be a banker 😀. And we won’t mention support for a former US president found guilty!

Anxiousheartbeat · 07/06/2024 17:17

The irony of people judging people for their politics, whilst calling someone with differing political views “bigots”.
😀😀😀

Indigococo84 · 07/06/2024 17:15

NotGotAClue1 · 06/06/2024 21:39

Some interesting comments. I’m still no clearer what to think or do.

N0 one can tell you what to do. Only you know how much it bothers you. I’ve been married for almost 30 years. We don’t vote the same and never have. It doesn’t bother me. It doesn’t affect our love for each other. M we just have differing views 🤷

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/06/2024 17:10

gannett · 07/06/2024 08:48

Very proud not to tolerate racism and bigotry. Better to be "closed-minded" like that than to be a moral vacuum that insists those views have to be respected.

I didn’t see the deleted post but I can tell from your response that you’ve completely missed the sodding point.

Nobody is suggesting for a second that racism or bigotry should be respected. What is being argued is that the right to express political opinions (within the boundaries of the law) is what should be respected. You know the famous quote (which I expect I’ve butchered)? ‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it’. That’s one of the hallmarks of a democratic society, isn’t it? A big melting pot of different ideas and philosophies that people get to vote for as their principles dictate. Do you seriously believe that the ideal scenario is that we should all think the same?

Also, who says that your definition of racism and bigotry is the yardstick by which everything should be measured? I can think of a handful of topics off the top of my head where there are dozens of real concerns entirely unrelated to racism or bigotry. Yet anyone who isn’t spouting the ‘correct’ viewpoint gets called names and told to shut up. Who died and made you and your mates Witchfinder General?

Worryingly, I’m not totally convinced that Rishi is going to be moving out of No 10 this year. And if he clings on, it’ll be because the people who do get off their arses and down to the polling booths are sick of being told that everything they worry about and everything they think is ‘wrongthink’.

StarlightLady · 07/06/2024 16:11

His thought process would be so different to mine, l don’t think l could handle it as it would impact on every day life. It shows he doesn’t mind being lied to though.

CountryBear · 07/06/2024 16:08

Bululu · 07/06/2024 13:45

I am going to be honest with you. I have found that most of the people who vote for parties as ‘they are the most ‘kind and caring’ are quite the worse I have ever befriended. They could have voted Reform and I would have understood. Does your fiancée is a genuine nice person and caring? A good father and not a thug? That is most telling than the party he is voting or voted for.

Quite. Im learning quite a lot about which voters actually promote tolerance and I’m not going to lie, I’m scared for the future.

Some of the attitudes shown on this thread…I can see how communist governments are able to police speech and even thought. There are so many people chomping at the bit to shut down discussion.

Perhaps that is why op’s partner is turning to a party that isn’t promoting that kind of rhetoric? Maybe he’s the better person?

Op returned to tell us how aggressive and awful he is, with an aim to conflate his ‘personality’ with his political leanings. There are many horrible people in this world and I can promise you some are Labour voters, Lib Dem’s, Greens etc and yes, some will be Conservatives or Reform voters. You can be a complete fool from any political persuasion.

Op, should you dump a partner based on a Nigel Farage vote - it’s up to you, but I think that’s ridiculous.

Should you dump an aggressive and mean partner who treats you with a lack of respect. Obviously.

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