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I'm so exhausted from working full time and having young kids

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Feelinglikeamoan · 06/06/2024 17:52

I'm in my 40s, I work full time, I have a preschooler and a primary school aged child. I'm fucking exhausted.

I've always worked full time, we could never afford to reduce hours. I'm burnt out. A normal night's sleep is 6.5 hours during the week. There are simply not enough hours in the day to get more sleep.

Also, I work in a really stressful health care role which adds to my exhaustion.

What makes it worse is that I'm the only one out of my friends in this situation. All of my friends with kids have either one parent working part time, or not working at all. Many of them have grandparents nearby providing significant support with childcare giving them time to rest.

I just wanted to moan. I feel like I don't get to enjoy life much as I'm so busy and exhausted. I've felt really upset by reading a few threads recently about people retiring in their 50s. It made me feel sad that I'm already so exhausted in my 40s, and I won't be able to retire until I'm around 67.

My biggest sadness is not being able to spend as much time as I'd like with my children. I wish I could work less and see them more. I feel like I'm letting them down by not having enough time for them.

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longdistanceclaraaa · 07/06/2024 12:00

Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:45

Having thought about it more with this thread, I think a big drain on our time is cooking. We often cook from scratch. This would be fine is everyone would eat that meal. But we struggle to find a meal that we can batch cook and both kids will reliably eat. I'm going to have think about how we can address that.

The problem is that the 3 year old constantly changes her mind about what she likes. That means more cooking and more washing up

Am I reading this right and that you frequently cook different meals for different people? That will be adding hugely to your evening duties. My kids sound a similar age and the option they get at mealtimes is take it or leave it. It's not always been easy to stick to that line but we have and resisted the temptation to rustle up something else. My eldest is the fussier one and we just keep saying to her that just because something isn't her favourite meal doesn't mean she doesn't like it or cannot eat it. She has got the message (mostly).

No child with a plate of food in front of them ever died of hunger. Mine are fine on days they eat less than we'd prefer in an ideal world. They can have fruit for afters.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 07/06/2024 11:53

I was in your position and ended up reducing my hours. Money isn’t as free flowing but we don’t go without and life at home is calmer.

I am now early 50s and having that extra bit of time in the week makes such a difference to everyone in the family.

One of the reasons I went PT was because I was in perimenopause but it wasn’t until 2 years later I could look back and see that. Mine began at about 46, and I wish I’d gone on HRT earlier.

Might be worth considering, OP?

positivewings · 07/06/2024 11:46

Its harder when you have children to take care of and need child care ect.
But i will get better.

Heirian · 07/06/2024 10:51

OP mine have always needed someone sitting up with them to get them down without emotional agitation that keeps them awake longer anyway. But 4 was when that really turned around so maybe it will for you too.

Heirian · 07/06/2024 10:49

Mouswife · 06/06/2024 19:23

Same for me OP. It’s so hard when you have friends who are stay at home parents when you work all day and cook/clean/wash all night until you drop. I’m exhausted , but there is no other way.

Arrrggh. I am SAHM and working all day too, someone else isn't looking after my kid, I'm doing it - it's work. I get less sleep too as kids younger.

Op's job does sound v stressful so that's worse. But mothering is working.

Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:45

Having thought about it more with this thread, I think a big drain on our time is cooking. We often cook from scratch. This would be fine is everyone would eat that meal. But we struggle to find a meal that we can batch cook and both kids will reliably eat. I'm going to have think about how we can address that.

The problem is that the 3 year old constantly changes her mind about what she likes. That means more cooking and more washing up

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Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:38

vickylou78 · 07/06/2024 00:24

Can you reduce your hours to just do 4 normal days?

But What are you doing from 9:30pm to midnight?? Why do you need to do anything then? Surely between 7:30 and 9:30 you can make dinner and lunches for next day and eat and wash up etc. So you can just relax at 9:30 or get to bed early?

All the house work can be done at the weekend or on your day off on a Friday?

I've thought a lot about whether I should do 4 "normal" days but I don't think it would work with the nature of my job. We're under staffed and there's always work that needs doing. I'd just end up working for free.

We really only do the basics on a week day. Anything like cleaning the bathroom waits until the weekend.

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Kinshipug · 07/06/2024 10:38

Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:31

He is absolutely pulling his weight. He does more than me due to my commute.

We don't have a slow cooker. Surely things need choping before you put them in? I see no benefit to him interrupting his working day for that when he can do it in the evening.

Why does he have to interrupt the working day? He could do it in the morning? Or 5 mins before he picks the kids up? I might be wrong, but your posts suggest that he is waiting for you to get home to do everything together.

Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:34

pateandbrie · 07/06/2024 00:00

OP just to let you know I cried when I read this. I literally could have written it word for word myself.

No advice. All the love. It feels impossible and I genuinely feel on the verge of a breakdown most of the time. The constant guilt about not being a 'proper mum' the constant stress about the job.

You are very much not alone, if that helps in even a tiny way.

Lots of solidarity @pateandbrie. I wish I could give you a hug in real life.

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Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:31

Kinshipug · 07/06/2024 09:23

Sounds like your DH isn't actually pulling his weight to me. If he isn't commuting he needs to be spending 10 mins putting dinner in the slow cooker or something at least.
But I feel for you.

He is absolutely pulling his weight. He does more than me due to my commute.

We don't have a slow cooker. Surely things need choping before you put them in? I see no benefit to him interrupting his working day for that when he can do it in the evening.

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Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:23

GOTBrienne · 07/06/2024 09:04

But if DC go to bed at 9.30pm and you don’t go to bed until 12.15am.
Thats 2.45 hours of activity, if it’s both of you that’s over 5 hours. Even if you take away the odd hour working that’s enough time to clean an entire house!

I don’t have a dish washer either, washing up doesn’t take that long, I also wash up as I am cooking. Whilst one of you is putting DC to bed or should be enough time to do what you need to do - clean kitchen, empty washing machine.

Meals when you are working/mid week should be fairly simple anyway.

I think you really need to assess what you are doing in the evenings. The house doesn’t have to be pristine. Do the basics and get to bed.

I'm going to make a note of what we're doing as we go along next week to assess how we're spending our time. One evening a week a lot of time is used up taking the older one to her hobby.

9.30 bedtime does not always happen. Sometimes it is more like 10. We've spoken to the health visitor who said it's within the realms of normal.

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Feelinglikeamoan · 07/06/2024 10:15

Octopusspotcat · 06/06/2024 23:52

I’m the same. 3 DC under 10 and I work 60-80 hour weeks. I get around 6 hours sleep a night if lucky. I’ve explored a lot of options. I’m leaving my awful H later this year. I am hoping it will make a difference. I feel like I am giving myself cancer.

That sounds incredibly hard. I hope you get to the chapter of your life without your awful h soon.

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JustMarriedBecca · 07/06/2024 09:27

It does get easier. Aged 3-5 was the worst. I did 4 days then too but now it's 5 days with them both in school. I was never at the pre-school gates either, and felt terrible.

School is a bit easier. I do shorter days two days a week so the kids do BS club and AS close two days. So I see some parents sometimes. And also playdates and parties become less frequent when the parties become smaller and everyone just invites their closest friends.

I'd just ride it out. Batch cook via the slow cooker as much as you can. Buy in help - cleaner (you aren't at home that much so there shouldn't be loads to do). Air fryers are an efficiency godsend. Bored of Lunch 30 minutes meals are SO EASY. I can put on at 5pm and let everything cook itself ready for when the kids get home. We all eat together which also saves time (or we reheat whatever they've had)

This too will pass (kind of)

Kinshipug · 07/06/2024 09:23

Sounds like your DH isn't actually pulling his weight to me. If he isn't commuting he needs to be spending 10 mins putting dinner in the slow cooker or something at least.
But I feel for you.

GOTBrienne · 07/06/2024 09:04

But if DC go to bed at 9.30pm and you don’t go to bed until 12.15am.
Thats 2.45 hours of activity, if it’s both of you that’s over 5 hours. Even if you take away the odd hour working that’s enough time to clean an entire house!

I don’t have a dish washer either, washing up doesn’t take that long, I also wash up as I am cooking. Whilst one of you is putting DC to bed or should be enough time to do what you need to do - clean kitchen, empty washing machine.

Meals when you are working/mid week should be fairly simple anyway.

I think you really need to assess what you are doing in the evenings. The house doesn’t have to be pristine. Do the basics and get to bed.

vickylou78 · 07/06/2024 00:24

Can you reduce your hours to just do 4 normal days?

But What are you doing from 9:30pm to midnight?? Why do you need to do anything then? Surely between 7:30 and 9:30 you can make dinner and lunches for next day and eat and wash up etc. So you can just relax at 9:30 or get to bed early?

All the house work can be done at the weekend or on your day off on a Friday?

Yesterdayyesterday · 07/06/2024 00:19

Another FT parent here with 2 DC in primary school. It is hard. For me not quite as hard as in your case as my days are 9-5 with a 30min commute, but I do 5 days so there is no break and then straight into a weekend of sports/parties/chores etc.

pateandbrie · 07/06/2024 00:00

OP just to let you know I cried when I read this. I literally could have written it word for word myself.

No advice. All the love. It feels impossible and I genuinely feel on the verge of a breakdown most of the time. The constant guilt about not being a 'proper mum' the constant stress about the job.

You are very much not alone, if that helps in even a tiny way.

Octopusspotcat · 06/06/2024 23:52

I’m the same. 3 DC under 10 and I work 60-80 hour weeks. I get around 6 hours sleep a night if lucky. I’ve explored a lot of options. I’m leaving my awful H later this year. I am hoping it will make a difference. I feel like I am giving myself cancer.

whiteboardking · 06/06/2024 23:43

Daft as it sounds some weeks I use 1-2 hours on a Sunday to make 3-4 basic meals we can then reheat - spaghetti Bol sauce / sausage & mash / stew of chilli etc. we have a pizza night once a week too. Then whoever gets home can just reheat something. By doing it in one go the pressure is less in week

whiteboardking · 06/06/2024 23:37

I found just associating more with other FT working parents helped. Our afterschool club in huge primary was full of kids every single day like yours.
It's v hard and relentless

RadRad · 06/06/2024 23:25

No advice as such OP, we do it all, not have it all but keep going, apparently it gets easier. I am not there yet, but hoping..💐

Feelinglikeamoan · 06/06/2024 23:18

Thanks for all your supportive comments and solidarity.

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Feelinglikeamoan · 06/06/2024 23:17

Itsmyshadow · 06/06/2024 21:58

Just seen your DH works from home. It sounds like he has a busy job so not a criticism, but he needs to take advantage of working from home to take the pressure off you both in the evening. Can he put a wash load on first thing and put it on the airer whilst on a boring conference call? Can he prep dinner whilst making his lunch or make your lunch for the next day whilst making his own lunch?

I work 50% from home. I make sure I am super efficient on office days including doing emails on the train on my long commute and working through lunch, then I allow myself time on my wfh days to put a wash load on or do some school admin (generally whilst on a boring conference call). I don’t take the mick (haven’t got time) but there are things that can be done from home concurrently with work.

Unfortunately I can't do any work on mh commute due to confidentiality (I work in health).

Dh's job doesn't involve any conference calls. His work is very technical. So no opportunity for multitasking. He stops briefly for a simple lunch so wouldn't have time to prep dinner. He's self employed, so no official lunch break

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Feelinglikeamoan · 06/06/2024 23:13

Barnabyby · 06/06/2024 22:35

There's me thinking 6.5 hours of sleep is quite normal for alot of people.

Not dismissing your situation at all by the way OP. Sounds tough. I couldn't do it. I'm in a cushy situation with a part time job, comfortable financially and only one child.
I'd completely break in your situation. I have no idea how you do it.

A 12 hour working day is more than full time though. That seems a bit much.
Also you should be prioritising sleep over doing house stuff until last midnight. That's not sustainable.

Edited

That's because I'm doing 4 long days and 2 hours of travelling.

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