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DD(6) needs to have two baby first premolars out

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 11:33

My daughter who just turned six have developed dental abscess for her two lower first premolars. We took her to see her dentist and she said they needed to be taken out, and referred us to Paediatric dentist as an emergency appointment. The Paediatric dentist saw her and also confirmed to take those out. We hoped that baby tooth root canals can save them due to concerns about permanent teeth alignment (loss of space, overcrowding, etc).

Since then, we have consulted another Paediatric dentist who can do root canals in the same practice, she also agreed to take them out. But I’m not 100% sure if she reaches this statement to avoid any contradiction to her colleague. I had expressed a very strong favor of keeping them during our consultation.

AIBU to consult another Paediatric dentist for this matter?

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HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 07/06/2024 02:38

If you think baby teeth are so important, why does your child have huge holes in them?

I’m amused by you posting dental papers. Your Google search doesn’t trump my dental degree (and 25 years experience!).

Please yourself, you’ll live longer! Good luck with finding a practitioner to do your bidding.

Castle0 · 07/06/2024 01:59

Anusername · 06/06/2024 12:02

@minisoksmakehardwork thank you so much. I know a root canal may not be successful, and only then I think I can accept that the tooth is out. My daughter will of course go through this unpleasant procedure. But losing two teeth on the opposite sides will have an impact on her ability to eat as well (as the first permanent premolars don’t exfoliate until 9-11). so really, there’s no easy option. I just want to exhaust every method before tooth extraction. Am I crazy?

Am I crazy?

Yes.

WittiestUsernameEver · 06/06/2024 21:23

Gid, why would you even consider putting a kid through a root canal to save baby tooth? 😫

PracticeorPractise · 06/06/2024 21:22

Anusername · 06/06/2024 21:05

@DragonGypsyDoris thanks and points taken. I think I need to be more informed and convinced about my decision.. Even primary teeth are very important as they act as placeholders to guide permanent teeth.

FFS what more do you need than THREE experts telling you the same thing. This is an upsetting read, youre being negligent and if I knew you in real life I'd be reporting you

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 06/06/2024 21:14

OP to be fair at the rate you’re going your DC isn’t going to have any teeth left for you to worry about having a straight smile!

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 06/06/2024 21:13

I had a load of baby teeth out when I was a bit older, plus four adult pre-molars - my teeth are huge and the adult teeth were coming in/going to come in all jumbled up as things stood. My younger brother also knocked his two upper front teeth out at about six, flying over the handlebars of his bike and also breaking his wrist. Both of us have great teeth now! Just get the baby teeth out.

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 21:05

@DragonGypsyDoris thanks and points taken. I think I need to be more informed and convinced about my decision.. Even primary teeth are very important as they act as placeholders to guide permanent teeth.

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JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 06/06/2024 20:56

OP-doesn’t brush her kids teeth properly for 6 years and then gets herself in a panic about root canal vs extraction!

OP-this is ALL your fault. Take some damn responsibility for your kids teeth!

DragonGypsyDoris · 06/06/2024 20:55

Are you a qualified and experienced dentist? If not, then just trust the professionals. Getting a second (or third, or fourth) opinion is to be sure that the original diagnosis/treatment path was correct. You can't keep seeking additional opinions until someone agrees with your inexperienced, irrelevant and somewhat arrogant stance.

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 20:47

@HalfasleepChrisintheMorning Not every tooth has the same weight in the centerline balancing.

https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/-/media/files/rcs/fds/publications/extractp.pdf

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 20:45

@mustardrarebit if I were in your position I’d get it out earliest without hesitation. My daughter hasn’t had any adult tooth emerging yet so I presume she might be on the later side.

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mustardrarebit · 06/06/2024 19:30

Anusername · 06/06/2024 12:17

@rainbowunicorn I have since then being extremely careful about her teeth and her diet. I have this deep regret of not doing this for her earlier. But what if we can save her tooth? She has five more years until her adult teeth come out

Not necessarily. My daughter is 7y 4 months and her premolars are coming through. Funnily enough, she has an abcess on the gum next to the wobbly tooth. We noticed it yesterday and she's having the tooth out next week. Fortunately she isn't in pain.

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 17:56

@HalfasleepChrisintheMorning is it that pulpectomies are very rarely done in Paediatric dentistry? Any more information?

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 17:51

Ok, I know why people question the delay. I’ve booked the earliest appointment for tooth extraction which is in two weeks. It’s not indefinite.

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Thedogscollar · 06/06/2024 16:37

Anusername · 06/06/2024 16:02

Thank you for all the replies. I’m at the dentist again today to ask advice. Will update shortly.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?
You have been given advice by three highly trained professionals.
Why are you here on MN asking random strangers for their advice?
Take the advice you have been given x 3. No need to update, seriously keep your thoughts to yourself.
Your daughter is at risk of that infection spreading with risk of sepsis.
Please get on with dealing with your daughters poor dental health which you as a parent are responsible for and stop pissing around on MN unless you think we are all trained dentists. 🙄

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 06/06/2024 16:20

Balancing extractions if definitely a thing, it’s to stop centreline shift - an orthodontic problem. It isn’t done so commonly but if the balancing tooth is decayed it’s a no brainer really.
No one does pulpectomies, they just don’t work and can actually cause more problems than they solve. Chronic infection under a deciduous tooth can damage the permanent successor.
You sound a bit mad TBH.
Your efforts would be better spent working out why your poor 6 year old daughter has huge holes in her teeth and what you can change to prevent this happening with her adult teeth.
Tip: sugar causes decay.

HistoryCasual · 06/06/2024 16:15

InNeedOfAWin · 06/06/2024 15:48

This has to be a wind up.

I agree. The story is changing with every update.

Hankunamatata · 06/06/2024 16:04

Get the teeth out, treat the infection and take it from there

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 16:02

Thank you for all the replies. I’m at the dentist again today to ask advice. Will update shortly.

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InNeedOfAWin · 06/06/2024 15:48

This has to be a wind up.

Sera1989 · 06/06/2024 15:37

I doubt the dentist wants to take the second tooth out to "balance" the mouth - kids lose teeth randomly and the gaps don't cause an imbalance. But I am also confused why they didn't take the second one at the same time, I had four teeth out in one go which isn't abnormal. I think you are very much overthinking this and using it as an outlet for some anxiety, especially as your daughter didn't have a bad time having her tooth out and you were the one who found it hard

HistoryCasual · 06/06/2024 15:31

Anusername · 06/06/2024 14:32

@Bushmillsbabe I did ask the dentist and her advise is to have one out at a time. I think it would be different advise under GA. She’s fine with sedation though - she said she loved going there today.

At 12.06 today you stated that your child had the one tooth out yesterday, now you are saying it was today. Which was it? I am very close to reporting this thread. I can't believe that you you really think it is right to put a child through all this, when the appropriate course of action is so clear.

Theuniversaluseofloafers · 06/06/2024 14:40

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2024 14:29

If she was under sedation, why on earth did she not have both teeth out in 1 go, rather than putting her through it twice.

My daughter is under specialist dental care at The Evelina and they are taking 6 baby teeth out all in one go later this year under general. All teeth are healthy but structural issues mean she needs 3 out now and they don't want to put her under twice for the other 3 next year. And yes we had an orthodontics consult as part of the planning process for this. I also asked about how she will eat and assured she will be fine, so I'm sure yours will be fine after 2 coming out

My son had several teeth out (4 so far) due to MIHS and he didn’t/doesn’t have any issues with eating.

I literally can’t remember a single side effect or pain afterwards.

lovehatelovehate · 06/06/2024 14:35

I feel very sorry for your child and can’t understand wtf you are doing! Dental abscesses require urgent treatment and I understand can be very dangerous if they spread. Get over your own vanity (or whatever this is!) and prioritise what’s best for your child. This is beyond belief.

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Anusername · 06/06/2024 14:32

@Bushmillsbabe I did ask the dentist and her advise is to have one out at a time. I think it would be different advise under GA. She’s fine with sedation though - she said she loved going there today.

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