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Should I report my neighbour for "man handling" his child?

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theneighbour · 05/06/2024 23:21

My Ring doorbell captured a neighbour aggressively grabbing his toddler's arm ( she looks about two years old) multiple times. She clearly did not want to walk, and attempted to sit down, at which point he kicked the back of her legs to keep her upright; the kick itself wouldn't have been hard to an adult, but would be for a toddler.

His DD ended up sat on the ground, he wrenched her arm to get her back on her feet a few more times, then hit her on the side of her head when she refused to stand. After that, he walked away leaving her on the ground crying.

He could have easily lifted her up, and carried her home, which is what I often had to resort to with my DS when he was having a tantrum, or just refusing to cooperate.

So, should I report this to social services, or is there another body I can speak to who might best advise me? Also, I'm uncertain as to whether there would be a data breach in sharing the doorbell footage with the relevant authority.

YABU - Mind your own business. He was probably having a bad day.
YANBU - Of course you report it. No harm done if SS deems he acted reasonably.

OP posts:
CammyChameleon · 06/06/2024 12:18

This isn't "normal" manhandling of a child.

To be clear on what I mean, normal manhandling to me would be a yank out of the road (which may end up being rougher than you meant to be because holy shit they're in the road), or picking up and carrying a child who won't come with you, or blocking them from lashing out at another child etc.

Startingagainandagain · 06/06/2024 12:12

''@iamtheblcksheep

I think unless you’ve seen this repeatedly you mind your own business.''

Absolute nonsense.

It is never OK to hit a child over the head.

OP, report this.

TemuSpecialBuy · 06/06/2024 12:11

I've have "been there" in that I've had to wrestle a child into a car seat... ive also had to pick up a writhing kicking screaming toddler

I have not "been there" in that i have NEVER had cause to kick a child or hit my child on the head and if a neighbour witnessed my husband doing it i would
a. Want to know!!
b. WELCOME a social services visit.

Motomum23 · 06/06/2024 12:01

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 06/06/2024 00:09

It does sound abusive but I'd be inclined to watch very closely and think it through. Are you 100% sure what you saw was unprovoked? I had to manhandle my DS1 frequently and was hit, scratched and kicked many a time, sometimes just to stop him running into traffic or to take him home after he refused. I'm sure from the wrong angle it could have looked like something else. If you are really sure it was a slap and kick not a defensive move then yes I think report.

A 2 year old child cannot PROVOKE child abuse. Ffs victim blaming at it absolute worst! No matter what buttons they push they do not deserve to be kicked and hit. An adult can easily pick a child up if it's being difficult and carry it home to tantrum at their own leisure.

Katemax82 · 06/06/2024 11:48

iamtheblcksheep · 05/06/2024 23:24

I think unless you’ve seen this repeatedly you mind your own business.

It's obvious it's something this man is doing more than once

WittyFatball · 06/06/2024 10:49

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:42

Arent you lucky

You think I'm lucky for never hitting or kicking my children?

Rolomania · 06/06/2024 10:48

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:42

Arent you lucky

Are you out right telling everyone on the internet you hit and kick your toddler?

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:42

WittyFatball · 06/06/2024 10:26

I have never, ever been there.

Arent you lucky

Kelly51 · 06/06/2024 10:26

@Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong
Are you 100% sure what you saw was unprovoked?
Provoked by a 2yr old? get a fuckin grip of yourself

WittyFatball · 06/06/2024 10:26

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:08

Aa a one off we have all been there. ... if you suspect abuse you should report.

Plus. As an aside Your ring doorbell ahould not be anle to recird your neighbours. Thats an invasion of privacy

I have never, ever been there.

HornyHornersPinger · 06/06/2024 10:25

You witnessed child abuse and hopefully still have evidence of it!! Report it to police and SS, NOW!

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 06/06/2024 10:17

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:08

Aa a one off we have all been there. ... if you suspect abuse you should report.

Plus. As an aside Your ring doorbell ahould not be anle to recird your neighbours. Thats an invasion of privacy

We have not all been there! I’m on my third child and our second can be incredibly difficult to manage. Never have I kicked her and hit her head. Even once is completely unacceptable and abuse!

Maddy70 · 06/06/2024 10:08

Aa a one off we have all been there. ... if you suspect abuse you should report.

Plus. As an aside Your ring doorbell ahould not be anle to recird your neighbours. Thats an invasion of privacy

Sprogonthetyne · 06/06/2024 10:05

If it was just the arm pulling, I'd leave it as some light man handling can be needed with toddlers (eg. To stop them running off), which can sometimes look worse then it is.

The hitting and kicking I would 100% report, there is no excuse for that.

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 06/06/2024 10:02

It upsets me and I have a child with SEN who regularly has massive meltdowns in public which are very frustrating and hard to deal with. I’m also a children’s social worker and regularly see and hear about truly horrific abuse. But this still upsets me.

don’t let people down play this type of behaviour.

fairymary87 · 06/06/2024 10:01

Oh god this makes me
Feel sick, trust me, if this is what he does in public, it'll be worse at home.

fairymary87 · 06/06/2024 10:01

As if he kicked her! Report this!!!

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 06/06/2024 09:59

Absolutely report this assault.

It is illegal to hit a child like this. Technically it’s not illegal to hit or smack your child if it’s deemed a “reasonable punishment” and it doesn’t leave a mark. But a grown man kicking, hitting and yanking the arm of a toddler is not reasonable punishment.

Whingebob · 06/06/2024 09:55

Well obviously you report someone hitting a toddlers head and kicking them. I can't believe you need to ask.

You're title makes it sound like an ordinary difficult toddler episode with parent a bit fed up but doing their best

WhatNoRaisins · 06/06/2024 09:54

I get that sometimes you just have to grab them by the arm and pull them along but there's no excuse for kicking and hitting in the head. That's really shocking behaviour. I couldn't ignore that in good conscience.

Craftysue · 06/06/2024 09:52

What always worries me is that if they do that in public what on earth goes on behind closed doors?

WittyFatball · 06/06/2024 09:49

LastTrainEast · 06/06/2024 09:14

It sounds a little over the top, but is the kind of thing that upsets people who have never had children and experienced a public tantrum.

"No harm done if SS deems he acted reasonably." is sadly not true. It's Russian Roulette with someone else's family.

Seeing someone hit and kick a toddler upsets normal people, including parents whose own children have had tantrums.

Kinshipug · 06/06/2024 09:47

If you've got video evidence of aggression, absolutely report it. I'm sure many of us have had to wrangle an uncooperative toddler, it's not always possible to do so gently, but that's not the same as kicking and hitting.

allmycats · 06/06/2024 09:44

What does the poster mean who says it may be provoked ? A grown man hitting and kicking a 2 year old is NEVER acceptable under any circumstances.
The man needs to be reported to the police and social services.
Please op report this incident immediately.

RoseGoldEagle · 06/06/2024 09:42

There’s no justification for being ‘provoked’ into hitting and kicking a 2 year old. That’s abusive, pure and simple. It’s made me think of CCTV that gets shown in court in cases like poor Star Hobson- who was dragged along the road when she could barely walk (turned out she had a broken leg). I thought you were going to say he was pulling her along by the arm or something- which can be subjective obviously as we’ve all had to try and wrangle toddlers to go in directions they don’t want to go. But what you’ve described sounds horrific. Definitely the right thing to report.