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Going partying with a group of strangers then back to hotel room?

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Princessfinella · 05/06/2024 20:55

Would you care about this?

Been with my boyfriend for about six months.

Earlier in the year, he mentioned he hadn't been on holiday for a couple of years and has had a stressful time over the last year, so I suggested he took a holiday.
I think he mentioned going with a friend but that sort of fell through (the friend had already booked a holiday this year with other people) so I encouraged him to book a week away on his own.

He left last weekend and has gone to Tenerife.

The first night, he landed at around 9pm and messaged me a bit while he was going through security and waiting for the transfer bus, then it got late so I went to bed.
The next day, I found a message from 11.30 that night with photos of his room and saying he'd only just found that he's got a balcony, then when I replied he told me that he'd been downstairs to the bar, "made some friends" and they invited him to the disco, so he went with them and didn't get to sleep until 5am.

A bit later when I jokingly asked if he'd sat on his balcony yet, he said "not mine but I sat on my friends' balcony when I went back to their room".

I questioned him a bit and he said the group that invited him to the disco, were a Spanish group who saw him sitting alone and I introduced themselves and invited him to the disco. Then he went back to their room for more drinks.

I (half jokingly) asked if girls had been involved and he said that the one guy was on a stag do, his mate was there and they "had two girls with them...not sure if they were 'with' them or they just picked them up".

This immediately made me feel really weird. He says he told them he had a girlfriend but why on earth would a grown man in his 40s - who has a girlfriend - agree to go partying with a guy on a stag do, his drunk mate and two girls and then go back to their room afterwards?!

He can't see the issue and is saying he was anxious being on his own, so wondered whether I'm wrong to be a bit put out by his behaviour? And honestly, concerned. Just seems a bit risky going to someone's hotel room with a group of people you don't know, although it is a large chain hotel (Hard Rock).

He also keeps referring to the random people he meets as "friends" and has added one guy to his FB already...

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Demonhunter · 07/06/2024 14:20

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 14:08

Thanks. Genuinely. I'll word it another way though; I wasn't picking at him (or intending to anyway), I just am very bad at reading people and weeding out the 'bad ones'.
Abusive last relationships etc which is why it bothered me when his ex accused him of being like that. So now, I'm picking up on a lot of things that 'could' be normal behaviour, or when all joined together be a sign of potential abuse/controlling behaviour.

It's quite difficult to explain but I do appreciate the kick up the backside from everyone

I'd use your own judgement and not that of exes. I was a wild one in my 20s, a complete outrovert party girl. I'm the complete opposite in my 40s, I very rarely drink and if I can choose not to be in big groups, I do so. However it always amazes my DP how when I'm in big group situations where mingling is expected, I come across as a social butterfly, as if it's a normal daily occurrence. He on the other hand is introverted all the time.
It's not something fake, I can just enjoy group situations more, because I'm not in them a lot.

Don't judge him on unusual situations that aren't a daily or even weekly occurrence.

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 14:08

Thanks. Genuinely. I'll word it another way though; I wasn't picking at him (or intending to anyway), I just am very bad at reading people and weeding out the 'bad ones'.
Abusive last relationships etc which is why it bothered me when his ex accused him of being like that. So now, I'm picking up on a lot of things that 'could' be normal behaviour, or when all joined together be a sign of potential abuse/controlling behaviour.

It's quite difficult to explain but I do appreciate the kick up the backside from everyone

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Calliecarpa · 07/06/2024 13:22

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:46

I have said this to him many times. He insists I'm the love of his life and he's happy to put up with me seeing him as little as I want.

But no, I wouldn't have considered going as I have a child so can't just drop them to swan off on holiday anyway, plus as I said before I had work commitments.

Do you actually mean to sound condescending and disdainful? Because that's how it's coming across, in most of your posts in this thread really but especially in this one. 'Swanning off' on holiday sounds so unpleasant and whether you mean it or not, so judgemental of other people who have kids and work commitments, but also like to have a relaxing holiday once in a while.

And re the rest of your thread, yes, YABVU. I'm like you, I'm an introvert and I love to be alone, and I would hate to socialise this way, but lots of other people enjoy it, and your boyfriend has not done a single thing wrong. Like a few PP have said, it's like you're picking away at every tiny little thing he does and says to have a go at him.

SquirrelSoShiny · 07/06/2024 12:29

You are not compatible for many reasons so don't flog a dead horse.

AhNowTed · 07/06/2024 12:29

Honestly OP, this is not the hill to die on.

In his shoes I'd have done the same.

Many's the time I'll befriend folks, add them to FB (whether male or female), go back to their place etc.

I'm in a 40 odd year partnership/marriage and have zero interest in anyone else.

My DH doesn't bat an eyelid.

Let it go.

GreenFairies · 07/06/2024 12:23

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 12:14

He doesn't even drink much! Apparently. He's really not like those typical people that enjoy going out for a drink and nights out.
He was working from home for years up until this year, lives with a friend but struggles when his friend has parties and BBQs, apparently either stands there quietly not knowing what to do or say, or goes to his room and messages me (which is how I know about it) and keeps on about his social skills being rubbish and how awkward he is.
He goes out once a week to a pub quiz, that's it.

Not that it matters, I know and maybe this time he fancied letting his hair down. I'm just trying to explain why I found it so strange that the first night he got here, he became insanely social

And now he’s having a good time and is really happy, and that makes you feel uncomfortable. He’s not the issue here OP, it’s you. You’re begrudging him for having a good time and it’s really really strange. I feel sorry for him.

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 12:14

Bobbotgegrinch · 07/06/2024 11:41

I don't think thats a position many people will identify with OP, I think you're fairly unique there.

I love my own company, will happily take myself off on a trip by myself, sit in the pub with a good book. I'm not great in big social situations, much prefer 1 to 1 with someone etc.

But that doesn't mean I never want to spend time with others, or have a night out with a group, or meet new people. Yes, its out of my comfort zone but I'd get proper FOMO if I was on holiday and everyone else is having fun in the bar and I'm all on my own.

He doesn't even drink much! Apparently. He's really not like those typical people that enjoy going out for a drink and nights out.
He was working from home for years up until this year, lives with a friend but struggles when his friend has parties and BBQs, apparently either stands there quietly not knowing what to do or say, or goes to his room and messages me (which is how I know about it) and keeps on about his social skills being rubbish and how awkward he is.
He goes out once a week to a pub quiz, that's it.

Not that it matters, I know and maybe this time he fancied letting his hair down. I'm just trying to explain why I found it so strange that the first night he got here, he became insanely social

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SamW98 · 07/06/2024 11:54

Bobbotgegrinch · 07/06/2024 11:41

I don't think thats a position many people will identify with OP, I think you're fairly unique there.

I love my own company, will happily take myself off on a trip by myself, sit in the pub with a good book. I'm not great in big social situations, much prefer 1 to 1 with someone etc.

But that doesn't mean I never want to spend time with others, or have a night out with a group, or meet new people. Yes, its out of my comfort zone but I'd get proper FOMO if I was on holiday and everyone else is having fun in the bar and I'm all on my own.

Absolutely. I love my peace and quiet and time alone. I’m very very content with my own company but equally there’s times I’m very social and love other people around me.

Theres not mutually exclusive positions. I would imagine most people even introverts have times like on holiday when they want to join in and mix with others.

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:53

loropianalover · 07/06/2024 11:50

He didn’t swan off on holiday, he booked a trip as he is entitled to do. The majority of people have work commitments and still go on holiday. You didn’t want to go, just leave it at that rather than comment that he swanned off.

It’s obvious that you’re borderline repulsed by this man, you find him childish and embarrassing, and you definitely don’t like him.

Break up with him when he gets back,
I don’t think discussing your disdain of him any further on this thread is going to do anything for you.

I didn't saw he swanned off, but okay

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loropianalover · 07/06/2024 11:50

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:46

I have said this to him many times. He insists I'm the love of his life and he's happy to put up with me seeing him as little as I want.

But no, I wouldn't have considered going as I have a child so can't just drop them to swan off on holiday anyway, plus as I said before I had work commitments.

He didn’t swan off on holiday, he booked a trip as he is entitled to do. The majority of people have work commitments and still go on holiday. You didn’t want to go, just leave it at that rather than comment that he swanned off.

It’s obvious that you’re borderline repulsed by this man, you find him childish and embarrassing, and you definitely don’t like him.

Break up with him when he gets back,
I don’t think discussing your disdain of him any further on this thread is going to do anything for you.

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:46

loropianalover · 07/06/2024 11:44

just having to see someone more than once a week has been tough…. If you're happy with own company and secure in yourself, how on earth can you feel lonely? Friends should be a bonus, not a must have.

Eek. You sound very cold OP. Just because you don’t want friends doesn’t mean he should sit alone for the week. I’m starting to understand why he went away alone - you definitely didn’t want to go with him!

I feel a bit sad for him that you find it tough to see him more than once a week. You are definitely not compatible.

I have said this to him many times. He insists I'm the love of his life and he's happy to put up with me seeing him as little as I want.

But no, I wouldn't have considered going as I have a child so can't just drop them to swan off on holiday anyway, plus as I said before I had work commitments.

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loropianalover · 07/06/2024 11:44

just having to see someone more than once a week has been tough…. If you're happy with own company and secure in yourself, how on earth can you feel lonely? Friends should be a bonus, not a must have.

Eek. You sound very cold OP. Just because you don’t want friends doesn’t mean he should sit alone for the week. I’m starting to understand why he went away alone - you definitely didn’t want to go with him!

I feel a bit sad for him that you find it tough to see him more than once a week. You are definitely not compatible.

Demonhunter · 07/06/2024 11:43

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:32

Part of the problem I suppose is I don't get that.

I love being on my own, genuinely - to the point I find a normal relationship stifling...just having to see someone more than once a week has been tough and I've happily been away alone, for meals on my own and all of that.

If you're happy with own company and secure in yourself, how on earth can you feel lonely? Friends should be a bonus, not a must have.

I think it depends on where you choose to go. If you're travelling to a city, packed full of sight seeing or a dream destination you have always wanted to go, you're happier alone so you can see all you want to and you can keep yourself busy and where you will find many solo travellers. That's completely different to choosing a place that is full of couples and groups who are off doing things and having fun together.
Even in Greece, there are some places that are just fabulous for a solo, totally chilled holiday, whereas drive 20 mins away, you'd feel completely out of place being alone.

Bobbotgegrinch · 07/06/2024 11:41

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:32

Part of the problem I suppose is I don't get that.

I love being on my own, genuinely - to the point I find a normal relationship stifling...just having to see someone more than once a week has been tough and I've happily been away alone, for meals on my own and all of that.

If you're happy with own company and secure in yourself, how on earth can you feel lonely? Friends should be a bonus, not a must have.

I don't think thats a position many people will identify with OP, I think you're fairly unique there.

I love my own company, will happily take myself off on a trip by myself, sit in the pub with a good book. I'm not great in big social situations, much prefer 1 to 1 with someone etc.

But that doesn't mean I never want to spend time with others, or have a night out with a group, or meet new people. Yes, its out of my comfort zone but I'd get proper FOMO if I was on holiday and everyone else is having fun in the bar and I'm all on my own.

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:32

Demonhunter · 07/06/2024 10:33

You would've HATED us when I was a holiday rep in the Canaries. Whenever we found someone holidaying alone, they were invited out with us reps to bars and for dinner and it continued that way for their holiday (regardless of age) I still keep in touch with a couple of them now.

Do you realise what it's like for people in a place like Tenerife alone? They see families, couples and friends groups and it can be terribly lonely and isolating. I still remember how gutted I was for one woman in Gran Canaria, who was sobbing to me one afternoon as she didn't expect to feel so lonely.

YABVU

Part of the problem I suppose is I don't get that.

I love being on my own, genuinely - to the point I find a normal relationship stifling...just having to see someone more than once a week has been tough and I've happily been away alone, for meals on my own and all of that.

If you're happy with own company and secure in yourself, how on earth can you feel lonely? Friends should be a bonus, not a must have.

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Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:30

GreenFairies · 07/06/2024 09:01

What are you on about? Completely fine to act that way in your 40s too. Being sociable doesn’t stop once you’re no longer in your 20s…

Yes but he's said he's socially awkward and hates being in groups - he is always saying he prefers 1-1 so this was completely out of character. That's why it took me by surprise.

To be honest, I've been having doubts all along about a) whether I'm interested enough in him and b) whether he's who he says he is, or whether he's abusive, as his ex accused him of being.

It's really not as it seems, I didn't have a go at him at all and everything he said about being different with me there, he says daily anyway. He keeps saying he needs me in order to feel sane and trust me, I'm not encouraging that at all, which was part of the reason for telling him he should try going away on his own...to foster his independence a bit more as he's coming on very strong at the moment.

Anyway I see now I was unreasonable. Thanks all

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Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 11:25

whitefluffytrainers93 · 07/06/2024 08:46

Sounds like he's having fun! He's in his forties he was open and honest with you. He's on holiday, why shouldn't he have a good time? Think you need to work on your anxious attachment style.

I thought I was avoidant actually, he identifies as anxious. Maybe I'm a bit of both because I've been telling him for a long time I'm not a relationship person.

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Demonhunter · 07/06/2024 10:33

You would've HATED us when I was a holiday rep in the Canaries. Whenever we found someone holidaying alone, they were invited out with us reps to bars and for dinner and it continued that way for their holiday (regardless of age) I still keep in touch with a couple of them now.

Do you realise what it's like for people in a place like Tenerife alone? They see families, couples and friends groups and it can be terribly lonely and isolating. I still remember how gutted I was for one woman in Gran Canaria, who was sobbing to me one afternoon as she didn't expect to feel so lonely.

YABVU

SamW98 · 07/06/2024 10:23

Gonna be honest OP you sound like an absolute controlling superior hard work nightmare.

The poor sod having a bit of fun on a solo holiday and you’re finding every excuse under the sun to slag him off. So what if he calls randoms his friends? What skin is that off your nose?

Many of us done things on holiday we probably wouldn’t do at home but what? He’s having fun stop dragging him down

Do the guy a favour. End the relationship and you can both find people who suit you better.

Bobbotgegrinch · 07/06/2024 09:44

Princessfinella · 07/06/2024 07:08

Well, firstly he has form for withholding information but secondly, I specifically asked whether he was going to keep in touch with those people he keeps calling friends after the holiday and he said he wouldn't be seeing them again - so he chose his wording carefully which to me, feels dodgy.
How do I know he hasn't given the girls his number or added women to his Facebook when he wouldn't even offer up the fact that he was indeed going to keep in touch with at least one of the group as he'd added them to Facebook? He says when I asked, he didn't feel it was relevant

"Withholding information"

He doesn't have to tell you everything he does or says. He's his own person, you're in a relationship with him, not sharing a single brain.

And why does it matter if he adds some people to facebook, or decides to keep in touch with people he met on holiday?

You sound deeply controlling, and honestly I think he'd be better off without you.

Disturbia81 · 07/06/2024 09:02

OP you aren't a good match, you are very critical of him early on. There's nothing wrong with someone making friends while they're on holiday alone. Just end it when he gets back

GreenFairies · 07/06/2024 09:01

VestaTilley · 07/06/2024 08:54

The whole thing is weird; why didn’t you go on holiday together?

Whether or not the meeting people and partying with them is dodgy or not will depend on his personality and how trustworthy he is. You shouldn’t overreact though; maybe he’s just lonely and enjoying himself.

Up to you whether or not you think he wouldn’t do anything silly.

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What are you on about? Completely fine to act that way in your 40s too. Being sociable doesn’t stop once you’re no longer in your 20s…

VestaTilley · 07/06/2024 08:54

The whole thing is weird; why didn’t you go on holiday together?

Whether or not the meeting people and partying with them is dodgy or not will depend on his personality and how trustworthy he is. You shouldn’t overreact though; maybe he’s just lonely and enjoying himself.

Up to you whether or not you think he wouldn’t do anything silly.

wrped · 07/06/2024 08:51

you sound crazy

hes better off without you

notacooldad · 07/06/2024 08:51

Tenerife is hardly the place you go to by yourself. What did you think he was going to do there
Dont be daft, I've been going to Tenerife by myself for 20 odd years, so does my best friend. We are both female and like our own company.

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