To think that this really can't be true about young people's thoughts about Israel?

You've been told by several posters that you are incorrect. Benjamin Netanyahu was actually born in Tel Aviv. It's almost laughable that you post such nonsense then lecture others on facts.

I'm embarrassed for you.

Do you have any solutions (apart from final ones) or just pure hatred for the entirety of the state of Israel and it's inhabitants?

most people who answer yes probably (hopefully!) did not consider that they are endorsing genocide, displacement and massive amounts of human suffering by answering "yes".

Hamas and various local players have repeatedly demonstrated that they would not simply "leave" Isreali citizens in whatever state or entity were to replace Israel.

That´s nearly 10 millions that would be butchered, raped, abducted into various forms of slavery or displaced. But it is very simple to just say "yes".

And no, I am unfortunately not surprised.

Not pink washing anything thanks, I was responding another poster who commented on Arab Israelis specifically. Nowhere I said settlers are not Israel, unfortunately they are part of government now and responsible for forming policy, which is abhorrent.

@mommyisbest Well said

I love how magnanimous people think they are being when they condemn the settlers in the West Bank. "Oh those horrible extremist settlers- that's not Israel at all". This is the height of scape goating.
Israel runs the birth and death registry for all Palestinians- it detains arbitrarily women, men and children- up to a million human beings- 20% of the Palestinian population have been detained without trial for months and years- their families don't know when they will return. The siege of Gaza meant Israelis counted the calories for Gazans and let is the bare minimum amount of food- resulting in malnutrition and low birth weight in babies. All of this has nothing to do with settlers. Israel is a racist state in inception, conception and operation.
Muslim medics and LGBT people don't make these facts go away. Don't pink wash this.

Are the only two options brutally killing 1000s of children or wiping Israel off the map?

Did you ask Arab Israelis if they would prefer to live in a 'free' Palestine governed by Hamas or Fatah for that matter? You might be surprised (or maybe not, but feel you know what's best for them?)

Israel is not perfect by any means but if you walk into any Israeli hospital or pharmacy for example you are more than likely to be seen by an Arab doctor or pharmacist. Arab Muslims, particularly women and LGBT enjoy freedoms and civil liberties not shared by their counterparts elsewhere.

I don't disagree about treatment of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza, I am appalled by the settler movement and their actions, and believe they have a large part in what might be the ruination of the state of Israel as we know it. But don't presume the Israeli Arab population would welcome this.

How could he not of known about it if you talked about it?
Tell him to start watching the news (not unbiased I know but probably better than socia media)

As I said, in a later post, I did. But he didn't connect it to what he was seeing on social media about Zionists and genocide.

I'm sure Jews are very grateful to hear you assert that people don't think all Jews should be killed this time. Because, as you know, that has been a serious enterprise in the past. As has kicking all Jews out of a country. England itself kicked its Jewish population out in 1290 and banned them from returning (the first but not only European country to do so).

There is a long, long history (including very recent history in the countries surrounding Israel) of Jews being targeted and expelled or targeted and killed.

Israel was created off the back of the Holocaust where 6 million of them were systematically murdered.

Where would you like Jews to go where they are not in danger of being expelled or killed as they always have been in the past, if not a Jewish state?

Quite. I can’t imagine not discussing this in detail with my teens. On the day of 7/10 and the weeks thereafter. That has blown my mind.

I didn’t remain silent and haven’t been silent. I was horrified as the vast majority of people were

it was a response to a post about Cyprus

I do not consider any child from any ethnic background to be of more or less importance

and I believe that is the crux of the issue that Palestinians have been treated as
less important

@mommyisbest over 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab Muslims.

I also used to believe in a one state solution but after 7 October I believe that a Jewish minority in the region would be lethally dangerous for them.

People talk about a two state solution with a guarantee of Israeli statehood provided by US support as the solution. This is a fantasy and morally bankrupt. Was Rwanda divided in half with Tutsis and Hutus taking their own part? Was the black population of South Africa given 80% of the land and the whites 20%? That's what some whites wanted as I recall. Also what's fair about 1967 borders? 6 million Palestinians get less than 40% of the land and the Israelis keep all the best land that they took from the Palestinians through ethnically cleansing them and bombing their towns to rubble? Wake up people. Israel is a settler colonial project which has continually expanded its borders since its inception. The settlements in West Bank which everyone now finds easy to condemn have been developing non stop since 1967. This is not cheeky settlers taking their chance. This is because Israel is a Jewish supremacist state in its constitution: awarding a right of return to global Jews whilst withholding it from millions of people who were ethnically cleansed to obtain that land who are of the wrong religion. Why is it ok for us all to love cheek by jowl in a multi racial, multi religious country? But Palestinians who by the way lived like this for 800 years with their Christian and Jewish brothers and sisters are denied this? Truth & reconciliation is hard and risky. But one nation with everyone living as equal citizens is the only solution. Anything short of that upholds the right of a Jewish supremacist state and is therefore doomed to fail.

I expect it’s a gut response to being sick of Israel’s war crimes and enforced aparthied. Also some will know that Israel never existed 100 years ago and the land was taken. Most will also know about Hitler but not see it as relevant

The history of Israel is simply not taught none of my YP know much about the history faced with that they are going to side with propaganda because that is all they know

"Israel has always been damned either way. I hear literally no one talk about the atrocities of the October attack, people couldn't care less. Israel are expected to take the hit, to lie down and accept these horrific attacks. Who would accept that?! Would these young people you quote be ok if it happened to their sister, mother or friend?"

Palestine has endured the endless encroachments into territory since 1948. Not only was a unilateral decision taken to annex chunks of their land by foreign powers to 'create ' the state of Israel, the Israeli's have systematically occupied (aka 'settled') more and more of the land that they were not given, displacing Palestinians into a coral where ther are virtual prisoners.

Not anti-semitism, just fact. But say that in public, and you are accused of it. That's why people are keeping quiet

No-one is fragrant in this situation

If a Synagogue was built 1500 years ago in Gaza, that means there were Jews in the area 1500 years ago. There were also Jews there more than 1500 years ago, and less than 1500 years ago. It wasn't until 1929 that the Arabs managed to clear all Jews out of Gaza.

Far from all Jews in Israel are European, and they were there before 1948. Stop denying facts just because they don't suit your narrative of choice.

Your version of events are very much disputed as they're incredibly inaccurate on so many levels and seem to be based on lies about Jews not having lived on the land until 1948 and then all Israelis being European, which is not only a lie but racist. You can't go around telling people they're white when they're blatantly not.

If GCSE History taught everything, there would be no need for A Levels or Degree. A GCSE in History cannot make someone an expert or even claim to be very knowledgeable. This is part of the problem.

I think it's because young people are dealing with things theoretically.

So if a country like France had millions of foreigners move there and they moved the French out of their homes, called France a different name and said it's their religious right to do this to France. Then the French keep calling for them to leave, then the newcomers keep killing French children etc. You'd probably see that it's easy to understand why that "new France" country could be seen as illegitimate, how the foreigners have no right to do this to France, what psychological torture this is to the real French people.

The problem of course is that the Israelis born today are a product of this ill thought out plan for Jews to occupy the land there. I don't blame those who are born there for seeing the place they were raised as legitimate and their home.

It's such a difficult one because there's no easy way to fix the situation now, it's too late.

But that is how it is? Amnesty international amongst others describes the Israeli State as an apartheid regime. What's happening in Gaza can only be described as ethnic cleansing and genocide. The Israeli State was founded on the principle of one race ruling another. How can that be justified. Abolishing the state of Israel isn't going to happen but a two state solution could. Saying Israel shouldn't exist is not saying all Jews should be killed. It's saying taking over another's people's land and then denying those people basic human rights is wrong. What's so terrifying about that?

This is what the majority of young people are aware of.

I don't think it's a case of them thinking that Israel should not exist. The majority understand the problematic founding of Israel. Hence why much of the Middle East refuse to recognise Israel.

Israel have caused a lot of problems themselves. No one is discarding or ignoring the horrendous Hamas attack. It was terrible but what Israel is doing now is far far worse.

However, its not exactly a surprise that hamas exists. The Palestinians have been oppressed by Israel and continue to have land illegally stolen from them. The west have ignored what Israel has been doing. It was only a matter of time before this happened.

Unfortunately Israel have responded by committing war crimes and genocide, this is not them defending their country. They have very concerning views about the Palestinians, even prior to the October attack.

My personal belief is that they are using this to take more Palestinian land.

I also do not think that anyone who supports Palestine is antisemitic. Most people are against Israels actions- not their religion.

I imagine most young people think everybody else is stupid and uninformed.
And then when they grow older, those same young people are amazed at how much those stupid and uninformed people actually know.