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Does she owe me the money?

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Sendmeapostcard · 05/06/2024 18:19

Hi all,
A few months back me and 2 close friends decided on a theatre show, so friend 1 put the tickets on her card and was paid by friend 2 and I within a week. (Friend 1 also bringing her husband).
The week before I got tonsillitis and my daughter was also ill, so I messaged both 2 days before the event to say I was feeling ropey but messaged friend 2 privately to see if her husband wanted my ticket, no charge (as they’re our best friends, and my fault if she no longer wanted to go with friend 1 and husband). I didn’t hear back from her (turns out she was ill too)
Friend 1 didn’t know this, and for all she knew I’d sold it or gave it away (although yes they would be seated with my friend 1 and husband), but I was then told her sister was there in my place (this was during the show) and friend 2 wasn’t going as also wasn’t well.
It since turns out she gave her sister my ticket..she did send a message “I was going to give you the money for it but I don’t know what to do now”, I think because she gave it away, not told her sister she wanted money for it but she hasn’t said that directly. It was £30, not loads but still, to me it’s wasn’t hers to give away without asking me. She’s now gone quiet on our chat because I know she’s avoiding it.
Also what is bugging me is her sister is notoriously tight, and she’s got something free again (she is a whole other thread).
So, am I owed the money- should friend 1 made it clear the ticket was for sale?
Thanks if you have read this far

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jellyfishperiwinkle · 23/03/2025 02:32

I wouldn't ask for the money in these circumstances but would think it's great that at least someone got to use the tickets and one of your friends got to go.

SordidSplendour · 23/03/2025 02:32

I've had so many of these exact same issues and my usual go to is that the money is already gone (on my end) and usually long ago, so I just let it go.
I'm always shocked that others don't have the inherent decency to offer a few quid but time has shown they don't and I roll with it. I'm always happier to see a ticket used than wasted.

Picklelily99 · 23/03/2025 02:27

Sendmeapostcard · 05/06/2024 19:24

@Firawla I am anything but tight. I offered the ticket to friend 2 for her to take anyone she wanted, (before I knew she wasn’t going) and didn’t want anything for it. I would have offered it to any of my friends for free. What I’m peed off at is her sister, who is scrounging money off their dying father like mad, is having something else for free, that I paid for this time! (Again, she is a whole other thread)
Plus it was mine to give away, no one elses!

The thing is, it was YOUR ticket, and you would be perfectly within your rights to LET THE SEAT STAY EMPTY , rather than let the freeloading sister have it! You're under no obligation to be kind etc, you have a choice!

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 17:23

@cloudofbats they are huge CFs!😳

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Floccy · 06/06/2024 13:56

This can also be interpreted as friend 2 gave your ticket to her husband, and friend 2's ticket was given to friend 1's sister.

It was all very last minute and probably confusing for friend 1. You dropped out 2 days beforehand, that's not a lot of time to find someone else, particularly as the other friend dropped out too. Let it go.

cloudofbats · 06/06/2024 12:47

I once had a friend like that sister. Always made sure to get things for free. I had some friends over for an early dinner/cold buffet stuff mainly but nice food. Everyone were about to leave and I wrapped things up and put in the fridge. She then called her partner who lived a street away and told him to come over as there was food left. He did, and she proceeded to take my food out from the fridge and even got him a plate from my cupboard. 😂 They had money, a nice house etc (who she managed to get friends to renovate and make a wooden dinner table etc for free).

I am a very (too) generous person to friends. But this is just being a cf.

cloudofbats · 06/06/2024 12:39

Theweepywillow · 06/06/2024 12:15

Why did you ask if you’re so convinced you’re right, and not tight, whilst repeatedly posting about how someone used your ticket you couldn’t have used without your permission and now you’re not going to bring bloody donuts . I mean really would,you have said no unless I get the money. How cringe. And all this she didn’t deserve it stuff is so creepy/

but anyway, why ask

you..am I wromg
mumsnet. Oh yes, and tight to boot
you no I’m not.

You don’t get to speak for all of us. OP has explained herself very well, it has nothing to do with being tight.

You on the other hand seem to be one of those grabby people like the sister who offered not even a token wine bottle or whatever to say thanks.

Projectme · 06/06/2024 12:37

I'd feel pee'd off too OP. It's the fact that she just took the decision out of your hands as to whether you wanted to offer your (paid for) ticket to any of your OWN friends before she gave it to her (tight) sister. It was YOUR ticket to do with as you wanted; she wasn't entitled to make that decision for you.

Maybe you should have been quicker off the mark when you knew you wouldn't be able to attend and done a 'round robin' text message offering the ticket to a bunch of friends, with first one replying positively getting the ticket; then getting in touch with Friend A to say you couldn't go but X/no-one would replace you so feel free to use the ticket for Y.

I think the backstory you've alluded to about their previous tight behaviour has affected your overall view of the situation. You obviously know more than we do about how tight your friend and sister are having been at the brunt end of it previously; maybe this is the final straw that's made you think what you're thinking.

But at the end of the day, do you want to lose a friendship that means a lot to you? As you've already said, you need to dial down on your own generosity towards them both in future so when a similar situation occurs (and it probably will!), you may not feel so hard done by.

cloudofbats · 06/06/2024 12:35

Theweepywillow · 05/06/2024 20:50

This is proper tight, I mean it’s as tight as. Let it go op. Really are you going after her for 30 quid for a ticket you couldn’t even used. Imagine causing bad feeling over that rather than being pleased it didn’t go to waste. Bloody hell.

No it’s not. At all.

Are you the grabby sister?

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 12:28

@Theweepywillow you don’t speak for the whole of mumsnet.
Im obviously not go into the background of the sister, but honestly it’s horrific. Even her 3 kids don’t live with her and chose to live with their dad from a young age.
I also didn’t come on here to ask “am I tight” that was never the question. The question was “am I owed money for my ticket that my friend gave away without asking”

Cringe off

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IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 06/06/2024 12:27

But what would have happened if the sister hadn't gone? It sounds like you hadn't made any attempt to sell or return the ticket so presumably you would have paid for a seat that went to waste. At least someone was sitting in it.

If anything I might be more annoyed with friend 2 who didn't tell you she wasn't going leaving you thinking that she was using your ticket.

RandomButtons · 06/06/2024 12:21

I wouldn’t risk damaging a friendship over this. You couldn’t go so the money was gone.

FloofPaws · 06/06/2024 12:19

I wouldn't lose a friend for £30 - I'd probably say 'oh just tell her to buy me a bottle of Villa Maria (or whatever) and we'll call it quits- I hope she enjoyed the show

Theweepywillow · 06/06/2024 12:15

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 10:51

@Theweepywillow nope. When I’m wrong I’ll admit it and with my friends and family I’ll give them anything, but didn’t appreciate someone giving away something I’d paid for without asking, and giving it to someone who didn’t deserve something she didn’t pay for

Why did you ask if you’re so convinced you’re right, and not tight, whilst repeatedly posting about how someone used your ticket you couldn’t have used without your permission and now you’re not going to bring bloody donuts . I mean really would,you have said no unless I get the money. How cringe. And all this she didn’t deserve it stuff is so creepy/

but anyway, why ask

you..am I wromg
mumsnet. Oh yes, and tight to boot
you no I’m not.

ACynicalDad · 06/06/2024 10:59

It was going to waste, her sister took it, leave it at that and move on. If you had told her I've sold it to X and she'll meet you outside to get the ticket and she said ah, I gave it to my sister, that would be different. Let her have it with good grace.

DexaVooveQhodu · 06/06/2024 10:58

I was ill the day of a theatre trip booked to go with my sister. She sold my ticket at 50% of face value to a friend and gave me the money.

If you had said to friend "can you see if anyone you know wants to buy my ticket at half price" and she then gave it away free you could expect her to pay you 50% from her own pocket. Given that two of you dropped out and she only used 1 spare ticket that 50% should be shared between you and the other person who dropped out. But given that you offered it for free to her DH it's npt unreasonable for her to use it for her sister instead. Not worth quibbling over.

TomeTome · 06/06/2024 10:53

It easy, text her and say it’s fine this time, but if it ever happened again you’d expect her to ask and that her sister really should have offered to buy it.

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 10:51

@Theweepywillow nope. When I’m wrong I’ll admit it and with my friends and family I’ll give them anything, but didn’t appreciate someone giving away something I’d paid for without asking, and giving it to someone who didn’t deserve something she didn’t pay for

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Theweepywillow · 06/06/2024 10:49

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 10:18

I am anything but tight.. with friends I’ll give anything. They come round, I’ll do food and they can take any leftovers with them (talking about £30 of food I bought for them), they don’t bring anything to mine, didn’t even get my son any thing for his birthday (because they forgot to go to the cash point), but they came over, ate a load of food and took loads with them, however it’s a 30 year friendship and I let stuff go.
I think (know!) is that I’m peed off because the actual tight people did get something for free, and they didn’t deserve !!
I would have given that ticket to any of my best friends and not given a shit, but I didn’t get the chance, it was given to someone else who really didn’t deserve more free stuff

Cmon. Now, you keep saying you’re not tight, then proving your thought process is absolutely tight as.

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 10:47

Thanks all x

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Crikeyalmighty · 06/06/2024 10:39

Don't sweat the small stuff in friendships OP- you were ill, it's not that easy just to resell and yes I wouldn't want to go on my own much either

CrispEater2000 · 06/06/2024 10:39

Cheeky of your pal to give it to her sister yes, but you were going to give it away in any case so I'd just write it off.

LittleLittleRex · 06/06/2024 10:38

So you didn't even message the trip organiser for two days before, didn't make any effort to re-sell the ticket or find anyone to go?

There are very few perks to being the person that organises things, the only thing that might work in your favour is being able to offer someone the chance to come along for free when your friends, who haven't put a second of effort into organising anything, pull out.

The perk to being the one who has things organised for them is not having to give much thought to people pulling out or plans changing.

You are full of "she should have asked..." but really, you should have followed up in some way. There is a reason you didn't say to her "do me a favour, try to find someone to pay full price for my ticket last minute," because that would be CF and ridiculous. It's only hindsight that is making you think it's ok.

If it will help you mentally, think of the sister you don't like having your friends ticket and your seat sitting empty.

Sendmeapostcard · 06/06/2024 10:33

@CountingCrones she insisted on booking on her card, it was actually friend 2s idea but friend 1 wanted to get it done, and added on her husband.
But.. done now. I am annoyed she gave away something that wasn’t hers without asking me but I have read and taken in every comment.

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Swissrollover · 06/06/2024 10:32

Would you have been OK with the sister having Friend 2's ticket whilst yours went unused?

Friend 1 had two spare tickets and only one of them was used. I'm not sure why it was necessarily your ticket given away rather than Friend 2's.

Either way, you had no plan for the ticket and didn't know until after the event that the sister went, so no additional loss to you. You have just been aggrieved that the sister didn't pay for something that was offered to her for free and going to waste anyway.

It would have been nice if the sister had been actively looking for a ticket and insisted on paying, but in that case the money should have been shared between you and Friend 2, no?