Being taught in school gay and trans people have mental illness

That's an absolute cop out. He could investigate with the class of students and should do that. It doesn't have to be witnessed by a school adult to be true. He's basically saying the teacher can do/say anything as long as he doesn't see it himself which quite simply isn't true. Take this further.

Hopefully the school will deal this! Gay people are not mentally ill... obvs

Gender dysphoria IS a mental illness, homosexuality isn't so he's half right

Non sequitur. You could say that of any protected characteristic or really of any human.

Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness. Scientific evidence shows it is neuro-developmental. Below is from this report given to Parliament:
https://www.gires.org.uk/transsexualism-the-inside-story/
Previous research has established that small areas in the hypothalamic region of the brain are anatomically differentiated into male and female, in the general population. More recent research published in 1995, 2000 and 2008 undertaken by J-N Zhou et. al.; Frank Kruijver et. al. and Garci-Falgueras and Swaab respectively, demonstrated that in three small, but statistically robust, post-mortem studies of individuals experiencing gender dysphoria, two sex dimorphic areas – the central subdivision of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) and the uncinate nucleus – are differentiated in opposition to the chromosomal, genital and gonadal sex characteristics.This was found not to have been caused by cross-sex hormone administration nor by sex hormone variations in adulthood. Scans of white matter in the brains of untreated trans men and trans women show them to be masculinised and feminised respectively (Rametti et al, 2011). The gene coding for the androgen receptor which governs the body’s response to testosterone, is characterised by repeat polymorphisms in trans women, indication an atypical response to this hormone (Henningsson, 2005; Hare et al, 2008).Monozygotic (identical) twins show a markedly raised incidence of concordance for transition compared with their dizygotic (fraternal) twin counterparts. These, and other findings, support the view that biological factors: genetic, hormonal, and chromosomal, may all have a part to play in strongly predisposing the formation of a gender identity that is at odds with the sex assigned at birth.Where this predisposition exists, psycho-social factors may subsequently modify the outcome. However, there is no evidence that socialisation in contradiction to the phenotype causes gender dysphoria, nor that socialisation which is consistent with the phenotype can prevent it. Many trans men and trans women struggle to conform to stereotypical gender role behaviour from early childhood, through adolescence and into adulthood.This may create intolerable stress which, in some individuals, can only be resolved by undergoing transition from the gender role imposed since birth, to the role consistent with the gender identity. This process does not change the underlying gender identity, but confirms it by aligning the phenotype with it, thus ending the mismatch. Trans people often delay transition to live in the opposite role, until they are adults, but a growing number do so during childhood or adolescence.In conclusion, although the processes of sex differentiation of the brain are not yet fully understood, the evidence suggests that this is not a mental illness but rather a neuro-developmental condition. It is inevitable that trans people will not all be binary; many will be non-binary as there are many gender interpretations between ‘man’ or ‘woman.Therefore treatment for these individuals needs to be tailored their own particular needs; it often includes hormone therapy and sometimes surgery, to achieve a closer alignment of the phenotype with the gender identity. Trans people usually benefit from psychological support for themselves and their families and significant others.The World Health Organisation was advised, in 2013, to “abandon the psychopathological model, in favour of one that reflects current scientific evidence and best practice”. The World Professional Association for Transgender Health states that “the expression of gender characteristics, including identities, that are not stereotypically associated with one’s assigned sex at birth is a common and culturally diverse human phenomenon that should not be regarded as inherently pathological or negative.”

That’s an interesting interpretation of my post. It would appear that you didn’t actually go to the study I linked. But please do continue to point out my ignorance 😏

People are really not understanding the nuances of the law when they say this. This gives some insight https://www.parklaneplowden.co.uk/gender-reassignment-protection-within-the-equality-act-2010/

I just do not believe this post is true. Teachers would be terrified of losing their jobs.

How astonishing that people in a small minority group, who face prejudice and misunderstanding, and in the case of gay people have only had equal rights for 10 years (while this study looks at adults over a whole lifetime), would be likely to have elevated rates of depression compared to the general population.

The fact that groups who face prejudice due to their identity are more likely to suffer depression and suicidal thoughts is very different to saying that the identity itself is a mental illness.

Your ignorance about that is an example of the pressures likely to lead to depression.

Anyway no teacher would be saying these things unless they wanted to get fired.

Being "trans" isn't a protected characteristic.

Subsequent case law (Taylor v Jaguar) has led to a much broader interpretation of the characteristic though.

Good God. Maybe they should have delved deeper for a cure to his dysmorphia rather than cutting them off. Seems like a lazy way to practise 'medicine'.

Pretty sure this would be against all teaching guidelines, so you should report to the head.

@mycatisanarcissist apologies for Daily Mail link

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13293599/canadian-man-body-dysmorphia-psychology-finger-amputation.html

The counterbalance is what they see in society everyday. The vast, vast majority of the population are not trans (despite some Mumsnetters seeming to think otherwise).

It should be counterbalanced though, that they see it presented as a routine thing to be transexual

Because it goes against part 2 of the teacher standards and because it's morally wrong to give an blanket statement personal belief as fact to a group of impressionable young people when you are in a professional capacity.

For real? I heard they are doing assisted suicide too, so maybe it's not surprising. The Canadian government has really lost its way.

And to be clear homosexuality was removed from the DSM in the 70’s so no I don’t think it’s ok to make a blanket statement that LGBQ people have a mental illness. (Nor do I thank any of them did prior to the 70’s if I’m being precise with my language).

However Trans I do think a different kettle of fish. I don’t think all Trans people are mentally ill. I think the vast majority have a different mental health diagnosis.

So all that being said I stand by my earlier statement that the teacher wasn’t necessarily wrong. But way oversimplified the topic and that’s probably why this is a bad topic to be taught in schools as fact (either way).

I would much prefer my child was taught that wanting to change sex was a mental illness to be treated with compassion, than a biological possibility.

the homophobic aspect is unacceptable though - that’s not a mental illness!

It's been done in Canada, apparently

Amputating healthy fingers from someone / people who thought they were disabled