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KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

OP posts:
SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:56

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 07:04

She’s used Kate in her OP because of her username. If they’ve used your name it’s likely someone you know.

I’d love to say it was impossible for scammers to find out your name first, but it really isn’t. It can actually be relatively simple, especially if you’ve ever used a phone number for work.

Think about it - if hackers can get the details of your bank account and address and spoof the helpline number of your bank, finding out someone’s first name shouldn’t be that hard.

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 12:56

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

And absolutely none of those ways matter if you block/ignore after checking if it’s actually your friend.

How do people actually get through a day without help when they live in an cloud of fear.

DragonGypsyDoris · 05/06/2024 12:44

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

Probably just forgot to sign off with a name. Rather than run to Mumsnet, why not simply message or call the number to see if you know the sender? That would be the logical and proportionate response.

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Wheelz46 · 05/06/2024 06:25

I work in fraud and would not recommend replying to the message. Although it may be legitimate it could also be a scam and likely is. Most genuine people would let you know who the sender is.

Scammers are chances and could be trying to see if your mobile number is active. Replying will confirm your mobile number is in fact active and then you could and likely will be bombarded with more messages.

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 12:38

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

So? What’s going to happen?

No one can do anything with your phone number and a couple of replies while
you check if it is your friend. What do
you actually think will happen?

They can’t force you to give them anything. If you check and it isn’t your friend then you block and move on. Every one of these phone scammers are looking for easily tricked people. If you push back or ignore then they disappear. Even if they didn’t disappear, what do you think they can do?

The hysteria on mumsnet is utterly out of control. Don’t answer your door, don’t answer an unknown caller, don’t reply to a simple text from a friend which didn’t folllw the scam patterns, don’t give out your bank details to anyone (even though they’d re used to receive a payment and cannot be used to make a payment).

This is not a healthy place for people like the OP who are clearly going through something, have issues or are vulnerable.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 12:36

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

And?

The block function works after you've replied

fieldsofbutterflies · 05/06/2024 12:26

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

But what do you think engaging with the scammer is going to do? Confused

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:22

CerealPonderer · 05/06/2024 00:46

Why not just reply and say 'who's this?'. Then you can contact them by other means to check. I'm not sure why you'd jump to immediately blocking the number.

Because then you’ve engaged whoever the scammer is.

Bumblebeeinatree · 05/06/2024 11:32

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:32

What? Spoofing your number is NOT the same as hacking your phone to get to your contact list - and if they’ve hacked your phone I think the contact list is low down the list of what data they could steal!!

but I was saying that in response to a load of posters saying “did they use your name” “is Kate your name” when it was very obvious she was using her MN username in place of her real name 🙄

Obviously not, I mentioned that just to point out not every one is sensible or able to understand these things, having the same old biddy ring me back FOUR times because she had got a call from my number which absolutely was a scam and I told her it was a scam and not to reply to unknown numbers, etc, etc, FOUR times, shows how vulnerable some people are. That lady would no doubt have rung back and probably done whatever the person said so it's worth them randomly sending those messages until they find someone vulnerable.

Feelsodrained · 05/06/2024 11:21

The police were interested in a theft? Someone broke into my car and stole stuff and the police didn’t even want to know what had been stolen. Maybe it depends on what area you live in as to what resources they have.

WetBandits · 05/06/2024 11:19

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 11:08

Jesus. I have been the victim of a crime. A lot worse than my car being broken into. I think you’ll find that many many people have.

Still would have sent a text back asking who it was or just checked in bloody WhatsApp for the profile pic and name. Did you even do that after it was suggested? Or just no, get the police involved.

I think the first line of the post you quoted was most telling! Checking WhatsApp wouldn’t have been nearly dramatic enough…

Theredoubtableskins · 05/06/2024 11:08

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 09:23

High drama this morning. The officer in charge of my ongoing crime report has been brilliant and said I did the right thing.

@Theredoubtableskins if you'd been the victim of crime you too would be anxious. The officer called the number and called me back. It's my scatty best friend who forgot to put her name on the text. We all had a laugh about it.

Cue some posts accusing me of wasting police time ...

Jesus. I have been the victim of a crime. A lot worse than my car being broken into. I think you’ll find that many many people have.

Still would have sent a text back asking who it was or just checked in bloody WhatsApp for the profile pic and name. Did you even do that after it was suggested? Or just no, get the police involved.

dancinfeet · 05/06/2024 11:05

got a message from my adult daughter saying that she had been mugged and her phone and bank card were stolen and she was texting from a friends phone- could I transfer her some money into friends bank just until she got a replacement phone and bank card. (for context she lives at the other end of the country in a busy city). I rang the number, turned out it actually was my daughter and someone had swiped her handbag while she was travelling. I did think it was a scam to start with though.

TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 05/06/2024 10:48

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:33

They don’t usually use names though. They’ll say “hi mum” or something.

I should have RTFT - didn’t realise it was the OPs real name they’d used.

the ones I’ve seen pretend they're texting somebody, throw in a random name and get into convo after apologising for texting a wrong number.

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:33

TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 05/06/2024 10:07

Deffo a scam, there’s a reddit where people share these all the time. They reply pretending to go along with the scam. It is called r/scambait

They don’t usually use names though. They’ll say “hi mum” or something.

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 10:32

Bumblebeeinatree · 05/06/2024 09:45

Or they've hacked someone she knows account and have sent the message to their contact list hoping for a few replies to exploit one way or another, even just getting her contact list to carry on the scam.

I've had my number spoofed and get random people ringing asking why I rang them and I explain it's a scam and I didn't ring them. But many seem to be old people who really don't understand some have rung me back multiple times. If the scammers have a load of people's numbers some of them will bite.

What? Spoofing your number is NOT the same as hacking your phone to get to your contact list - and if they’ve hacked your phone I think the contact list is low down the list of what data they could steal!!

but I was saying that in response to a load of posters saying “did they use your name” “is Kate your name” when it was very obvious she was using her MN username in place of her real name 🙄

FuckTheClubUp · 05/06/2024 10:18

So after all of that it turned out to be your friend? Wow. Next time just send them a text back, it’s not really that difficult

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 10:12

Wheelz46 · 05/06/2024 10:05

@KateMiddletonsExtensions I am just going to put this out there and probably get backlash from other users but I deal with fraud victims everyday 😆

So when the police told you it was your best mate, have you spoken verbally to your best friend using the new mobile number? A fraudster could potentially seek you out on social media (if you don't have it locked) and pretend to be the person who you appear to be tagged mostly with. I mean the police wouldn't know your friends voice. 😬

The police officer rang me back and asked if I knew Jane Smith. She's my best mate. I rang her on the number and spoke to her.

OP posts:
BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 10:08

TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 05/06/2024 10:07

Deffo a scam, there’s a reddit where people share these all the time. They reply pretending to go along with the scam. It is called r/scambait

😂😂😂

And are the police in cahoots?

TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 05/06/2024 10:07

Deffo a scam, there’s a reddit where people share these all the time. They reply pretending to go along with the scam. It is called r/scambait

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 10:07

Wheelz46 · 05/06/2024 09:57

@BarcardiWithGadaffia I didn't advise the OP to report to the police, I advised not to reply to the message.

However given the update that OP had items stolen from her car, I think she did right to forward the message to be added to the crime details!

You don't need to send someone money to fall victim to fraud, you can be a victim of account takeover, it only takes the fraudster to obtain basic details and the next thing you know you either have no money in your bank or credit cards maxed out or even credit cards in your name!

It may be a simple reply, "who is this" but one of the steps has been completed that the mobile number is active!

OK, I'll bite, how would the OPs bank account be taken over by someone who knows her name and phone number?

It's obvious she's not stupid so how would the scam progress?

Nouvellenovel · 05/06/2024 10:06

StripedTomatoes · 05/06/2024 09:31

Imagine contacting the police before sending a reply to say, sorry who's this? Scarlet for ya OP.

Actually if you reply you’re confirming that the number is active and more likely to be touched for a scam.
The op did the right thing in her circumstances.

whoneedssixteen · 05/06/2024 10:05

Sensible OP - no wonder so many people get scammed out of money!

Years ago a common follow up to handbag thefts was to call the home phone number to check no-one was in, or to call it and pretend to be from John Lewis. Tesco/the Local Pub where the bag was "lost" and say the bag had been handed in and arrange for the victim to go and collect it. Then, knowing the house was likely to be empty (and thief had address and keys), go and burgle it.

Wheelz46 · 05/06/2024 10:05

@KateMiddletonsExtensions I am just going to put this out there and probably get backlash from other users but I deal with fraud victims everyday 😆

So when the police told you it was your best mate, have you spoken verbally to your best friend using the new mobile number? A fraudster could potentially seek you out on social media (if you don't have it locked) and pretend to be the person who you appear to be tagged mostly with. I mean the police wouldn't know your friends voice. 😬

CecilyP · 05/06/2024 10:02

WetBandits · 05/06/2024 09:29

Imagine if there had been an easier way to find out who it was without involving the police!

Yes, so not ‘obviously’ as many earlier posters were suggesting.

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