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KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

OP posts:
Mayana1 · 06/06/2024 20:25

ladycarlotta · 05/06/2024 07:22

There is no need to send out "this is my new number" messages on WhatsApp. You can just change the phone number on your WhatsApp account and continue as normal.

of course it's a scam. All these kind of messages are. They're designed to get you to engage. I'm surprised how many people aren't wise to this.

Still not everyone is using Whatsapp, it could be an elderly person too, who barely knows how to use the phine, but learned a thing or two, like texting...

LongSinceGotUpAndGone · 06/06/2024 20:23

Mayana1 · 06/06/2024 20:21

So what if she message back if the person is not genuine, she can still blick it and avoid further messages.

No, because if she goes onto a suckers list she will get calls from dozens of different spoofed numbers.

It's resolved now for the OP, but my advice not to respond at all still stands.

Mayana1 · 06/06/2024 20:21

LongSinceGotUpAndGone · 05/06/2024 06:45

As has been mentioned, a reply confirms to a scammer that the number is active - cue endless scam calls and texts because OP will go onto a 'potential suckers' list.

If A in your example has an iota of common sense, he/she will realise their mistake and phone, from a different number if needed, rather than assume they have been ghosted.

So what if she message back if the person is not genuine, she can still blick it and avoid further messages.

Mayana1 · 06/06/2024 20:13

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 00:42

Received a text saying

"Hi Kate, just to let you know my new mobile number, speak soon xx"

No sign off. How am I expected to know who it is? Am I bloody psychic? Or is it a scam? I put the number in whocalledme.com but nothing came up.

Has anyone else received a message like this? I've blocked it but screenshotted the text and number for future reference.

It happened to me before, a genuine person forgot to put his name in the end. Just ask who is it and if you don't know who that could be, block after. No harm sending a WhatsApp, it's decrypted.

Mayana1 · 06/06/2024 20:11

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 05/06/2024 00:45

Do you know any Kate’s at all? Otherwise I would presume someone just misdialled the number when updating their new phone/SIM card. - it is possible they had to tap in all their contacts and where unable to transfer data via the cloud /system backup.

It says: "Hi, Kate...." means her name is Kate, not sender's.

OldPerson · 06/06/2024 19:00

So there's nothing you have to do.

You'll probably find it's one of your older relatives.

Just stay safe. Don't reply.

It's a bit extreme to block the number. They're not at the stage of pretending to be a Nigerian Prince and wanting your bank details.

riceuten · 06/06/2024 17:45

The scams are usually followed up quickly with an appeal to send them money as they’ve had their account blocked. Wait to see if that arrives

riceuten · 06/06/2024 17:44

The scams are usually followed up quickly with an appeal to send them money as they’ve had their account blocked. Wait to see if that arrives

OnGoldenPond · 06/06/2024 17:04

Hope you changed your locks after having your spare key stolen OP.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 06/06/2024 16:09

StripedTomatoes · 05/06/2024 09:31

Imagine contacting the police before sending a reply to say, sorry who's this? Scarlet for ya OP.

Really? Why would you be “scarlet” for a complete stranger whose actions have zero impact on your life?

PuddlesPityParty · 06/06/2024 09:18

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 22:48

It's worrying how many people think this is probably legit because they know your name.

Treat ALL unknown numbers as scams unless you can speak to the person and verify with absolute certainty who they are.

I would be ignoring the text. If genuine they would have signed it off with a name for starters. What prat is going to text you about a new number and not provide their name?

Edited

her friend? As discovered.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 06/06/2024 07:08

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 23:08

You are spectacularly missing the point.

So many people were happy to consider the text legit because it included a name. Yes in this scenario it was but the correct protocol should always be to assume scam until the identity of the other party is verified, not drop your defences if a message includes your name.

Edited

I didnt see posts where anyone never mind so many people said it was definitely not a scam because of the name, multiple were saying it was unlikely but well outnumbered by those who were absolutely sure it was dodgy

No one is saying not to be appropriately cautious but as with many things in life the mundane answer usually turns out to be the case

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 23:08

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 22:53

I'd you'd read the OPs comments you'd have seen that it was in fact the prat of her best friend. Maybe everyone you know is perfect and would never make a silly mistake of missing their name off the text but you must be able to understand that most humans are on occasion fallible

You are spectacularly missing the point.

So many people were happy to consider the text legit because it included a name. Yes in this scenario it was but the correct protocol should always be to assume scam until the identity of the other party is verified, not drop your defences if a message includes your name.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 22:53

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 22:48

It's worrying how many people think this is probably legit because they know your name.

Treat ALL unknown numbers as scams unless you can speak to the person and verify with absolute certainty who they are.

I would be ignoring the text. If genuine they would have signed it off with a name for starters. What prat is going to text you about a new number and not provide their name?

Edited

I'd you'd read the OPs comments you'd have seen that it was in fact the prat of her best friend. Maybe everyone you know is perfect and would never make a silly mistake of missing their name off the text but you must be able to understand that most humans are on occasion fallible

SpindleyDindley · 05/06/2024 22:48

It's worrying how many people think this is probably legit because they know your name.

Treat ALL unknown numbers as scams unless you can speak to the person and verify with absolute certainty who they are.

I would be ignoring the text. If genuine they would have signed it off with a name for starters. What prat is going to text you about a new number and not provide their name?

Rubbishconfession · 05/06/2024 21:49

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 09:23

High drama this morning. The officer in charge of my ongoing crime report has been brilliant and said I did the right thing.

@Theredoubtableskins if you'd been the victim of crime you too would be anxious. The officer called the number and called me back. It's my scatty best friend who forgot to put her name on the text. We all had a laugh about it.

Cue some posts accusing me of wasting police time ...

How is that high drama? It sounds like the most boring police call ever.

And you did waste their time.

Rubbishconfession · 05/06/2024 21:47

KateMiddletonsExtensions · 05/06/2024 08:52

And then they can see my WhatsApp profile can't they?

They have your number, they can already see your profile 🤦🏻‍♀️

If you haven’t set your privacy settings.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 21:41

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 21:12

Susan hadn't been introduced by the time of the post that I responded to.

If "Susan" isn't introduced to the scam it doesn't go anywhere, what would the scammer say when Kate asks who the text is from?
I'm not telling you but send me some money?

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 21:12

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:08

Only if they happen upon a Kate who also then has a friend called Susan when they reply to the who dis message and then falls for a long con where "Susan" eventually asks for money without having had any genuine contact with the real Susan in the meanwhile

That's quite some odds

Susan hadn't been introduced by the time of the post that I responded to.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 13:12

And, the main point was people were missing the fairly obvious point she was using her username in place of her real name.

Well I certainly realised that, but the actual name doesn’t matter. The same principles apply as long as the name was right.

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 13:10

SlovenlyOldSlut · 05/06/2024 12:56

I’d love to say it was impossible for scammers to find out your name first, but it really isn’t. It can actually be relatively simple, especially if you’ve ever used a phone number for work.

Think about it - if hackers can get the details of your bank account and address and spoof the helpline number of your bank, finding out someone’s first name shouldn’t be that hard.

Didn’t say they couldn’t, but it’s more unlikely they’d do that when they can mass text without a name. And, the main point was people were missing the fairly obvious point she was using her username in place of her real name.

PuddlesPityParty · 05/06/2024 13:09

Bumblebeeinatree · 05/06/2024 11:32

Obviously not, I mentioned that just to point out not every one is sensible or able to understand these things, having the same old biddy ring me back FOUR times because she had got a call from my number which absolutely was a scam and I told her it was a scam and not to reply to unknown numbers, etc, etc, FOUR times, shows how vulnerable some people are. That lady would no doubt have rung back and probably done whatever the person said so it's worth them randomly sending those messages until they find someone vulnerable.

Which has nothing to do with hacking a phone??? It was just irrelevant to the thread (hacking a phone isn’t a scam) and to my comment.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:08

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 13:01

Maybe they don’t? Maybe they’ve automatically generated thousands of “dear Kate” texts knowing a small proportion will land up with a “Kate”. Tiny cost of doing this is well repaid by ending up with someone who thinks it’s genuine because “they know my name”

Only if they happen upon a Kate who also then has a friend called Susan when they reply to the who dis message and then falls for a long con where "Susan" eventually asks for money without having had any genuine contact with the real Susan in the meanwhile

That's quite some odds

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2024 13:01

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 04:47

How would a scammer know your name and even if it was one nothings going to happen if you reply and ask who it is

Maybe they don’t? Maybe they’ve automatically generated thousands of “dear Kate” texts knowing a small proportion will land up with a “Kate”. Tiny cost of doing this is well repaid by ending up with someone who thinks it’s genuine because “they know my name”

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 05/06/2024 13:00

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 12:41

Ditto. I work in FCP and AML and definitely advise not to reply to unknown numbers.

Its a naive viewpoint to say ‘well they’ve not asked for money’ - as we know there’s many ways of scamming without asking for cash

So in this specific case op messages back and the scammer says they are "name of actual friend" what would be the next step in the scam that she would fall for?

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