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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:27

Dating a bloke you feel the need to keep the peace with is bad enough, but to inflict the man on your kids is quite shocking.

Your posts are upsetting to read, as the daughter of a woman who involved me as a child and teen with her appalling taste in males, please do better. The man's words, thoughts are irrelevant, he should have been dumped long ago.

Lunabetty · 04/06/2024 11:26

Let him go, he sounds awful

Greenqueen40 · 04/06/2024 11:26

Thank god you don't live with him, should make breaking up with him ten times easier. Which of course you need to do as he's abusing your daughter!

Ginkypig · 04/06/2024 11:24

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:18

Yes I find he takes great offence to perceived complaints when in this case she was clearly just talking about what she enjoys. He does it with me too.

I once joked that he wasn’t fun in a playful tone, pulling him back to bed with me as he was getting up and he wouldn’t talk to me for the rest of the day as he took offence.

He’s talking about her like that when he is lives his life like a petulant child!

your dd is an easy excuse for him to aim his behaviour towards but he’d be like this anyway.

personally I think because you’re used to making allowances for DD (and have a history of choosing dick men) it’s caused you to not really think about it when you’re in the same position with him EXCEPT HE IS A FULLY GROWN ADULT with as far as we know no issues that would cause it.

he has shown you who he is, isn’t that enough?

MintTwirl · 04/06/2024 11:24

Well he will no longer be your boyfriend will he? You can’t choose a man over your child.

Justcallmebebes · 04/06/2024 11:24

It's outrageous that your daughter is not allowed to mention or talk about her father

Newbutoldfather · 04/06/2024 11:24

The devil is in the detail here.

How much does her father pay you in maintenance? Is this meant to cover the luxury that she seems to covet?

It would be beyond tiresome to be constantly told that someone liked ‘luxury’ and that what you are doing isn’t good enough. It is really hard to treat someone as having needs when their needs seem to be a high six figure income!

I think your AIBU is unfair as I definitely don’t think your BF is being a brat. Is your daughter? That is really hard to tell without her having a proper diagnosis and support being put in place for her. And maybe she has been let down by both her parents in not having her high expectations slowly and carefully managed over time.

I have taught several autistic girls over the last decade and never have I seen one who sulked unless her demands for ‘luxury’ were met. Some time out when things get overwhelming, of course, and being treated gently and sympathetically, but, if they can perform relatively normally in a classroom setting (with the above adjustments), they can work out (by learning, if not by empathy) that expecting first class travel and Michelin starred restaurants is not reasonable and will upset people.

How will she transition from home to uni or independent living if she continues with these expectations?

As for the bf, he should probably step back. This is a really good case to try couples or family counselling as there are several children involved.

DonnaGiovanna · 04/06/2024 11:23

Your daughter sounds v similar to mine and he would be getting the old heave-ho from me. It's hard enough to maintain self esteem as a girl with ASD, why make it harder for her?

BudgetQ · 04/06/2024 11:23

He needs to grow the hell up.

He is toxic for your DD (and immature petulant men are wildly unattractive anyway, don’t you think?)

But regardless, you should leave him.

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:20

tennesseewhiskey1 · 04/06/2024 11:18

Your poor child OP - she must be so overwhelmed with so many things, and now to top all of this off - her own mother, who is meant to be her biggest supporter, her protector, has told her she cannot say certain things in front of this cunt of a BF in case HE gets upset - HE is an outsider. I feel for your daughter. Dont do this to her.

I am her biggest supporter and always will be. Which is why I’m noticing and assessing what’s going on and making big decisions on the future.

Yes I admit I try to keep the peace at home and asking her not to speak about her dad was a step too far on my part.

He doesn’t live with us.

OP posts:
OrlandointheWilderness · 04/06/2024 11:19

This isn't about him learning about her ND - any kind and empathetic adult is capable of behaving in a decent manner around anyone. The ND isn't the problem, your BF being a complete Bellend who frankly sounds jealous her DF has money is the problem. So what if she likes nice things, I do too! It doesn't sound like she is a brat to me, the autism obviously make certain things trickier but he needs to behave like a grown up. I have a DSS. I know far more about his mum than I ever want to know about my DPs ex, but its his Mum and he can talk about her no problem!

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:18

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/06/2024 11:11

Only someone looming for a fight takes 'I love eating at restaurants like these [because food is my passion], it's my favourite part of my holiday' as her 'shitting on the rest of the holiday'. That's insane. I don't think this is salvageable

Yes I find he takes great offence to perceived complaints when in this case she was clearly just talking about what she enjoys. He does it with me too.

I once joked that he wasn’t fun in a playful tone, pulling him back to bed with me as he was getting up and he wouldn’t talk to me for the rest of the day as he took offence.

OP posts:
YellowCloud · 04/06/2024 11:18

You need to leave your BF. Put your daughter first.

Making her live through her teenage years living in a house with an unrelated man who dislikes her is unacceptable. If he is acting like this now, he won’t change. Be a mother and protect her.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 04/06/2024 11:18

Your poor child OP - she must be so overwhelmed with so many things, and now to top all of this off - her own mother, who is meant to be her biggest supporter, her protector, has told her she cannot say certain things in front of this cunt of a BF in case HE gets upset - HE is an outsider. I feel for your daughter. Dont do this to her.

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:18

You owe your child a huge apology for inflicting such trash on her.
Get the man dumped as a matter of urgency, start putting your child first.
'DBF' does not need to step up, or learn about your child's private medical details, he needs to be removed from your child's home.
Surely you know this?

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:15

Roundroundthegarden · 04/06/2024 11:10

She has a useless father and now you bring someone else who is just as bad?
Have a think op, what are you putting on your child because of your own interests.

It’s a fair point. Her dad is totally useless and horrible. He refuses to acknowledge her actual diagnosed learning disability and I haven’t even speak to him about the likely autism as he won’t have it.

DBF needs to either step up and accept DD by learning about autism and showing patience and kindness. His clear insecurity about status and money related to DD dad needs to be addressed as it’s not her fault who her father is. If he can do this it would be great, however after seeing his behaviour I’m not sure it’s possible, which means that yes, if he can’t, he needs to go.

OP posts:
SuffolkUnicorn · 04/06/2024 11:13

He’s a cunt

ChocolatePodge · 04/06/2024 11:12

I voted YANBU but I think you're being completely unreasonable for allowing this man to continue in her life.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/06/2024 11:11

Only someone looming for a fight takes 'I love eating at restaurants like these [because food is my passion], it's my favourite part of my holiday' as her 'shitting on the rest of the holiday'. That's insane. I don't think this is salvageable

Roundroundthegarden · 04/06/2024 11:10

She has a useless father and now you bring someone else who is just as bad?
Have a think op, what are you putting on your child because of your own interests.

Crunchymum · 04/06/2024 11:10

Is she diagnosed? Are you seeking a diagnosis?

What help and support does she have in place?

Do you and you partner live together? (I am hoping not!!)

The fact is you have a high needs child who is unlikely to head off to uni in a few years, how is you partner going to cope with that? Your child is with you for the foreseeable.

Your children always need to come first and they always need to be shown they come first.

thaisweetchill · 04/06/2024 11:09

YANBU.

Why are you with him?

Babbahabba · 04/06/2024 11:08

Poor kid. My exH grew to have a rocky relationship with my very laid back NT teenage son, with no mental health problems. It started to affect him so imagine the damage it could wreak on a kid as vulnerable as your daughter. The main complication in our case was our shared DD, to whom my ex is a brilliant dad. I felt like I had to choose between my kids but I did end it when DS was 16 and it was definitely the right decision.

You have no shared kids and you're not married- get rid.

Roundroundthegarden · 04/06/2024 11:08

Oh Fgs! Why are you even asking this?? Sounds like you know what you should do but hoping that one person will tell you to stay with him.

Put your child first! She's on the spectrum and needs people who understand her and mummy's boyfriend shouldn't feature in her life if he's a negative impact.

CaveMum · 04/06/2024 11:06

BF needs to go, he's making no effort and his attitude and comments are likely making your DD struggle even more.

Make it clear to him that DD is your Number 1 priority and get rid of him.

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