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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
MrsSunshine2b · 04/06/2024 13:56

I have a 14 yo autistic stepdaughter and the idea that her stepdad could be treating her this way and her Mum could be going along with it and putting pressure on her to mask her symptoms or not to talk about her father in her own home makes me feel quite ill.

She must feel as though she's treading on eggshells and has no safe space to be herself. You need to step up as her mother and remove this abusive person from her life. And apologise to her for what you've put her through up to this point.

quantmum · 04/06/2024 13:56

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:36

DD certainly doesn’t expect luxury. She, like me and many others, enjoys a nice meal out every now and again. She has never made demands or anything remotely like that. She’s happy at any food place to be honest.

DBFs perceived demands by her are, in my opinion, non existent and in his head. She’s never demanded first class travel or Michelin starred restaurants. She tends to like easygoing relaxing holiday and not adventure as it’s exhausting for her.

She has never demanded luxury or sulked at not receiving it. I’m not sure where that has come from?

Counselling is something I have suggested but he doesn’t see the point of it and thinks it’s a waste of money.

OP, I'd concentrate on your DD and let your BF know that. If your DD so enjoys food, does she get the opportunity to cook? Would that be a nice thing for you to do together? It could be something she has a career in in the future so if I was you I'd really help her plan towards that and it might help her if she had a strong focus and could imagine her future.
Your BF sounds absolutely dreadful, and not someone you or your child should be with. She's clearly picking up on his attitude. He sounds miserly, immature and a bit thick. Just let him go, it's not worth it and as you don't have children together at least you don't have to him in your life anymore.

KreedKafer · 04/06/2024 13:55

I'm speaking here as someone who doesn't even like kids/teens much, and I'm also someone who finds constant tears / moods etc really annoying. But even I, the world's worst curmudgeon feel really sorry for your kid and think your boyfriend is an absolute prick.

He's offended because your daughter loves nice restaurants and eating out is her favourite part of the holiday? He sulks for days if she mentions her father??? What a fucking baby.

I don't even think this is about your daughter's neurodiversity, really. I completely appreciate that her likely ASD is a probably a factor in her lack of filter and her seemingly OTT responses (tears when overwhelmed, etc) but generally, a lot of what irks your boyfriend sounds like the sort of thing that I'd expect from a neurotypical teenager as well. Most teens are moody and prone to drama, and lots of teens are much more keen on lounging around watching telly and drawing/crafting/whatever than they are filling their days with 'activities'.

Teenage traits aside, can this actual grown man seriously not understand that different people like different things and that your daughter can't just force herself to love the sorts of holidays he happens to enjoy the most?

He, in fact, sounds way more hyper-sensitive and drama-queeny than she does. Taking offence at her expressing her enthusiasm for a nice restaurant is absolutely crazy of him. If that's the sort of thing that makes him kick off, there's probably nothing the poor girl can do or say that would meet with his approval.

I would dump him.

PS Somewhat off-topic, but I must say that I think your daughter sounds great, for the most part! If I had to hang out with a teenager, I'd much rather hang out with your daughter, painting and going to nice restaurants, than with a kid who wanted to do group activities at campsites. Smile

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 04/06/2024 13:55

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

How much maintenance does her father give her?
Of he is making inflammatory comments like that he ought to be contributing more to his child. Her own parents are responsible for paying for her (not her mum’s boyfriend).

TBH everyone in your life sounds unreasonable - your daughter, her father and your boyfriend.

Your daughter sounds very unpleasant and difficult to live with. Being a teen and having autism does not mean she can behave however she likes and have no filter. I wouldn’t be around her if I didn’t have to.

I think you and your boyfriend should break up - sounds very unpleasant for all involved and you have nothing holding you together.

greenpolarbear · 04/06/2024 13:55

Do these problems only ever happen on holidays/trips, or is it all the time?

Toastjusttoast · 04/06/2024 13:54

I could never go out with someone who dislikes my children. I hope you break up with him. You have a responsibility to your daughter.

Your bf is expecting her to have perfect manners when it’s more difficult for her because of her conditions, and she’s only 14. Bullying a child, what a pathetic person.

beergiggles · 04/06/2024 13:53

@Loveisntallyouneed
I'm very relieved to hear that this man does not live with you. I hope you can keep it that way.
He sounds horrible and very immature.

spriots · 04/06/2024 13:52

Your DD sounds very difficult to be around.

That's not may not be her fault.

I can understand why your boyfriend wouldn't enjoy being around her.

But at the end of the day it's your role to make sure she isn't forced to be around someone who doesn't like her.

I think you either need to break up or limit your relationship to dates without the children

viques · 04/06/2024 13:50

I feel so sorry for your DD. She appears to have been landed with a parent who not only doesn’t have her best interests at heart but appears to be incapable of having a relationship with a man who isn’t a whinging self obsessed man child.

One you could put down to bad luck, but two is bad judgement.

Flopsythebunny · 04/06/2024 13:50

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:20

I am her biggest supporter and always will be. Which is why I’m noticing and assessing what’s going on and making big decisions on the future.

Yes I admit I try to keep the peace at home and asking her not to speak about her dad was a step too far on my part.

He doesn’t live with us.

That makes it so much easier.
I cannot understand why you are even thinking about what to do

MILTOBE · 04/06/2024 13:49

I would have thought your daughter will never be relaxed and happy while he's around. Who would want to live with someone who didn't like them? You wouldn't do it, would you? Why should she be expected to put up with that?

Being a step parent is very difficult, especially for him as he's comparing himself unfavourably with your ex. I think you should both live separately, even if you continue to see each other.

squirrelnutkin10 · 04/06/2024 13:48

She has additional needs and needs to be prioritised end of...he needs to go.

You have to either end it entirely or only see him without DD.

I have a child with chronic health issues which are not visible and have always prioritised her needs over my husband/friends/her brother.

Our family understand and it is fine, but l would not allow anyone to dictate or cause tension over this.

She does not sound demanding beyond her autism and deserves to be supported.

BeGutsyCat · 04/06/2024 13:47

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Of course like I said anything can be said in a rude way, but objectively, it's much more likely to be perceived as rude if the listener is already insecure with a chip on their shoulder.

FranklySonImTheGaffer · 04/06/2024 13:47

No idea why so many people are focusing on your DD liking nice things. Without having to consider any SEN/autism, part of being a teenager is sometimes wanting things your own way.

I think you know you need to end your relationship.
Imagine being your DD, someone who struggles with interactions with people and the many nuances there are to it. Imagine how often she is confused by other people's responses to her - and now you have a grown man who is seemingly deliberately being an arse to her making a completely normal comment. He's wrong footing her and making her feel bad and she doesn't deserve it.

Also, I know you've acknowledged that asking her not to mention her dad was a step too far but I think it's really important that you talk to her about that. She needs to know that she doesn't have to keep secrets or tiptoe around something like this, that she should never change her normal behaviour in order to avoid the tantrums of a man.

If you add to this the fact that he punishes you by not talking to you if you annoy him, he's always been 'moody' but even more so now he's lost his job and that you're spending your time and energy keeping the peace and it doesn't make for a happy environment for anyone does it?

BangTidys · 04/06/2024 13:46

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Purplebunnie · 04/06/2024 13:45

I think that he will soon start finding fault with your other DC

Lots of thinking for you I'm afraid

JMSA · 04/06/2024 13:45

I'd have to end it. Sorry. My kids come first always.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 04/06/2024 13:44

He doesn't like your child, he goes. You shouldn't even be carrying this on still he should be gone already.

ClickClickety · 04/06/2024 13:44

Get rid of this manbaby sulker. You don't live together so just cut him out of your children's lives before his mood swings makes everyone walk on eggshells (which you're realising you've been doing).

nordicwannabe · 04/06/2024 13:43

Thank goodness you don't have any DC with him and live separately.

He's awful, and you should LTB and enjoy a peaceful happy life with your own DC without him. Relationships really shouldn't be hard. If you're walking on eggshells and keeping the peace, it isn't worth it.

If it takes you a little while to make the decision to end it, make sure your contraception is rock solid. Getting pregnant with him would be a disaster.

And when you do end it, change the keys if he's ever had one, and don't agree to 'talk it through'. Don't tell him it's because of how he treats your DD - he'll just justify it and argue you back round. Just take ownership and tell him that you've decided this doesn't work for you and nothing is going to change your mind.

BeGutsyCat · 04/06/2024 13:43

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I think if you (and bf in this case) are deeply insecure about something like the holiday cost, then yes any comment at all can trigger you!

Of course, anything can be said rudely, but in general, "xyx was my fav part" is a very inoffensive comment. To imply someone is ND because they have this perfectly normal view is just odd.

mrspaulhollywood · 04/06/2024 13:42

It sounds like he's very insecure about his own financial circumstances and is kind of taking it out on your DD and reading in to her preferences / things she says about her dad as a personal attack

BitOutOfPractice · 04/06/2024 13:42

Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

And i don't like the sound of him. He sounds absolutely vile and emotionally abusive.

If you are happy with your poor DD learning at her mother's knee how to walk on eggshells around a man to avoid his "moods" and the silent treatment, then you should be absolutely appalled at yourself.

The day - the very same day - that I "noticed a change in my DP's attitude" to my kids, would be the day he either changed his tune immediately or left.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 04/06/2024 13:40

He’s an adult. He has a filter.
And even if he’s never come across autism before , knows nothing about it, he’s still the adult and you develop ways to talk to different kids.
Im afraid he has to go OP. He sounds hard work and unwilling to learn and adapt.

Despair1 · 04/06/2024 13:39

God Almighty, this man's behaviour will seriously damage your daughter.
You say that you have 2 younger children, are they yours and your BF's children? If they are, that could make saying goodbye to this relationship alot harder.
The situation and the constant stress that it is putting you under isn't good for your wellbeing. Unless he can see what he is doing wrong, he really needs to go!
Sending you strength at this really difficult time

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