To still be really sad and angry about Brexit

Xenophobic?!? Nonsense. The entire Brexit vote was founded in xenophobia!

Has quality and choice of food plummeted across EU? It has here but only if you’re paying attention.

Someone said recently we are all remoaners now. If only Brexit voters had a decency to accept that they were wrong/misled/lied to, instead of saying that the failed Brexit is someone else's fault, our children might stand a chance to see the UK rejoining the EU

So everyone is now leaving the post because they don't like a balanced argument?

I think the other point to make @J2os is that I don’t believe Brexit would have happened without the LibDem/Tory austerity policies. You can’t treat poorer communities abominably then except them not to react. Unfortunately nobody seemed to realise that and even worse the communities who did vote Leave are now demonised.

Well if you'd travelled extensively throughout Europe, Greece and Turkey, you'd see prices have rocketed, not just in the UK. Its very xenophobic to think the UK should be protected from all the forces that are affecting the rest of the world

I’m still upset and angry about Brexit too, I don’t think I’ll ever get over it. I don’t dwell on it daily or anything but whenever the topic crops up I feel furious.

Actually leaving this now because I can't stand the "rattled a few cages" nonsense. Sneering at people for worrying about the state of their country and its poorest is really shitty behaviour.

I've got to know, how do you get a "European" passport if you currently have a British one?

It's not quite as simple as that. Many on the Left have always been opposed to the EU, (eg Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn) and many on the right have been supporters (eg Margaret Thatcher)
It's really not that clear cut left/right.

I don’t see anywhere near the same level of anger on here about austerity @J2os

So why did we leave if it was only "advisory"?

Why do you think the people on this thread don't speak up against austerity? Most of us on the left are also Remainers- opposed to both austerity (economically illiterate and ideologically driven) and Brexit (economically illiterate and ideologically driven).

Are you completely unaware of the changes in law carried out by this (very brexy) govt to allow sewage dumping and general degradation of our waters?!?!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/06/uk-safe-water-brexit-tories-environmental-standards-michael-gove

And as to quality food… let’s just say, if you were the EU and you had a close neighbor really quite dependent on their food supply coming from them (we are) and that neighbor had ZERO IMPORT OR QUALITY CONTROL…. Where would you flog all your rotting, substandard food?🤔

Cos I know if I was the EU, I’d send it to that neighbor. Which is why the food in the average local Tesco is now shite.

Slowly boiled frogs don’t notice it’s getting hot, though.

Yes, worldwide, but much much worse in the UK BECAUSE of Brexit, and much higher cost of importing food, labour, fertilisers, etc, etc.

And yes, water treatment too, due to massive increase in cost of importing water treatment chemicals, especially with a failing Pound.

Did the majority of the population vote for Brexit? Maybe not, but the majority of the population who got off their arses and went out to vote did. Does that answer your question, without being rude?

Please, surely you must know. For one reason only, because the Referendum was not legally binding, but only advisory. They could not cancel and 'advisory' Referendum as it had no legal, political status.

Ok. I can see I have rattled a few cages. this is a genuine question. Seeing as someone has mentioned public services, why don’t you all care about austerity? It has destroyed this country. I would take the Brexit thing more seriously if you also all spoke up against this as well.

Rude!

I did vote.

I was asking a genuine question which was ‘did the majority of the population vote for Brexit?’

Yanbu @OptimismvsRealism . It was and remains devastating. David Cameron took the most reckless gamble. Although, I was as shocked as he was at the result.

All those people that didn't vote. 😭The don't really cares and people that thought the status quo was fine so they didn't need to bother, they really shafted us too.

You should always vote to mitigate against the extremists.

do you really want to live in an echo chamber @Haggardandhungry Like I said I voted remain but if you think everything that is wrong in the UK is down to Brexit that’s a huge oversimplification. It’s like the daft people who complain about Spain having better tomatoes (well yes, their climate is more suitable) and the sad faces at empty supermarket shelves (maybe the lorry broke down or the driver was ill?)
I can’t stand Farage and hate how this issue has divided the UK. Just look at the poster who thinks it’s ok to mock Sunderland.

Nice try at deflecting, 6/10, fair effort.

That has nothing to do with Brexit. The price of reasonable quality food has rocketed worldwide, not just in the UK. Sewage dumping also has nothing to do with Brexit

I don't think it's simple at all, but a drop in GDP inevitably means less money for public services.

Maybe make an actual argument rather than just saying things like "if you think X then I cannot help you". There is compelling evidence that Brexit has made the country poorer https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions.

Which is sod all to do with Brexit. So what's your point?

I think this says it all.