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To still be really sad and angry about Brexit

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OptimismvsRealism · 03/06/2024 17:27

It really reduced the opportunities in my future and has achieved absolutely nothing of benefit for anyone else (besides disaster capitalists who made a mint off the financial manipulation effect). We haven't even avoided those stupid fecking tethers on the bottle lids!

When the extra immigration checks come in in October it's going to make every holiday a tiny bit upsetting.

And the new government won't even try to fix it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those idealists singing ode to joy before breakfast but on a personal level it bloody sucks and seems likely it always will.

OP posts:
Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 19:06

I voted to remain as it stands but accepted the result, oooh about 8 years ago

Corinthiana · 03/06/2024 19:06

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 19:05

So why wasn't it overturned if it was found to be fraudulent? Your post makes no sense

Yes, that was my next question.

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 19:05

fungipie · 03/06/2024 19:01

Oh come on. Surely you know the Electoral Commission found ample evidence of fraud and outside interference - and would have had to cancel the vote if it had be official rather than just advisory. Surely, you know that.

So why wasn't it overturned if it was found to be fraudulent? Your post makes no sense

Corinthiana · 03/06/2024 19:05

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:56

You do know the vote has been proven to be fraudulent in the extreme, don't you?

What do you mean?
Electoral fraud?.

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 03/06/2024 19:04

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:55

You do realise the majority of the population voted for Brexit? So "you people" means the majority. Do you understand that?

The majority of the population did not vote for brexit. The majority of the people who bothered to vote in the referendum voted for brexit.

DappledThings · 03/06/2024 19:03

Me too OP. I just had a work trip with a German colleague. I was jealous of her EU passport and all the freedom it still affords her and simultaneously angry in her behalf about the hoops she has to jump through now just to stay in the UK.

I can see France from my town. It's so close and on a clear day it just makes me sadder and angrier seeing how physically close we are and how stupidly far away we've put ourselves.

theleafandnotthetree · 03/06/2024 19:02

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:54

It still makes me really angry too OP, especially when I go overseas and get directed to the "other passports" queue (although as we allow EU and other citizens to use our e-gates, I feel like they could return the favour - maybe with a Labour government, it could happen). That's the obvious personal impact, and is a bit of a first world problem, but the fact that my son's life chances have been shrunk is something I can never forgive.

I'm Irish but flew via Standstead to Budapest recently. When we got there, a handful of us sailed through the EU passport side and the other passengers with British passports were hived off into another queue. I said to my colleague that if I were British and a remainer I would be so fucking angry every single time -like this - that I was reminded of what was lost and for absolutely nothing, not even ideology really. Which would at least be understandable.

fungipie · 03/06/2024 19:01

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:59

No, I don't know that. How is a democratic vote fraudulent because you don't like the result?

Oh come on. Surely you know the Electoral Commission found ample evidence of fraud and outside interference - and would have had to cancel the vote if it had be official rather than just advisory. Surely, you know that.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/06/2024 19:00

Hesma · 03/06/2024 18:24

Yep! My new European passport arrives at the end of the month. No point in renewing my British one

Why on earth not?
It will be blue now.
(Actually nearer black, and ironically made in Poland) 🤔

2dogsandabudgie · 03/06/2024 18:59

Glasto73lover · 03/06/2024 18:39

I wish ill on him OP to be honest.

He’s disgusting racist - plenty of kids have died in the channel now there are no safe legal routes for people to claim asylum. I blame him.

Blame the parents and the people smugglers. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to get into a small boat and cross the channel. France is not at war. How many safe countries have been travelled through. They are mainly economic migrants. Anyone who puts a child into one of these small boats should be charged with attempted murder.

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:59

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:56

You do know the vote has been proven to be fraudulent in the extreme, don't you?

No, I don't know that. How is a democratic vote fraudulent because you don't like the result?

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:58

You do realise the majority of the population voted for Brexit? So "you people" means the majority. Do you understand that

"you do realise" is an incredibly patronising phrase.

But in any event, you are wrong. It was a numerical majority of those who voted and should never have been hijacked the way it was and it was also meant to be advisory only. But the Tories leapt on it.

LlynTegid · 03/06/2024 18:57

OptimismvsRealism · 03/06/2024 18:52

Honestly, it would be easier if the people who supported it had the guts to admit they were wrong now!

I agree. We won't rejoin the EU this decade but should seek a better relationship and co-operation. Look at solving the negatives such as for musicians, and tackling the people smugglers, are two that come to mind.

Glasto73lover · 03/06/2024 18:57

OptimismvsRealism · 03/06/2024 18:52

Honestly, it would be easier if the people who supported it had the guts to admit they were wrong now!

They are never happy. They are thick racists who peddle some bullshit idea of patriotism and Britishness that never existed.

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:56

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:55

You do realise the majority of the population voted for Brexit? So "you people" means the majority. Do you understand that?

You do know the vote has been proven to be fraudulent in the extreme, don't you?

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:56

whyhavetheygotsomany · 03/06/2024 18:45

Time you got over it 🙄

I assume you are older and don't have kids or grandkids. Because how anyone could vote to restrict their offspring's life chances and then celebrate the fact is beyond me.

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:55

whyhavetheygotsomany · 03/06/2024 18:45

Time you got over it 🙄

Why? the damage is massive, and my adult children and grandchildren are paying such a heavy price. NO I will never 'get over it', because it will never stop to negatively affect them and this amazing country I love.

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:55

EffortlesslyInelegant · 03/06/2024 18:52

This dumb comment shows a paucity of comprehension that makes me worry that people like you have a vote at all.
Agree or don't agree but for heavens sakes do better than 'waaaaaah get over it'

You do realise the majority of the population voted for Brexit? So "you people" means the majority. Do you understand that?

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:55

For anyone who wants a European passport go work and live in the EI, it’s still possibke

not sure how unless you can get a golden visa, have very specific skills, or live in Ireland first to get the EU passport. Not impossible, but very difficult.

parkrun500club · 03/06/2024 18:54

It still makes me really angry too OP, especially when I go overseas and get directed to the "other passports" queue (although as we allow EU and other citizens to use our e-gates, I feel like they could return the favour - maybe with a Labour government, it could happen). That's the obvious personal impact, and is a bit of a first world problem, but the fact that my son's life chances have been shrunk is something I can never forgive.

millymollymoomoo · 03/06/2024 18:54

For anyone who wants a European passport go work and live in the EI, it’s still possibke

im much much more worried about the prospect of a labour govt, more unrolled immigration, more gender ideology taking away and devaluing women’s rights, pro hanas supporting mps and protests,

things might not be great now but they’ll kill this country off for good

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:53

Sad, angry, and I grieve for our amazing Great country, and for my adult boys and our grandchildren. Don't think I'll ever recover, and would move to Europe if I could.

Cheshireflamingo · 03/06/2024 18:53

Absolutely furious here - about the practicalities, about the message it sent that the UK is a horrible unwelcoming place, and the way it opened the floodgates for racism and nastiness.

OptimismvsRealism · 03/06/2024 18:52

whyhavetheygotsomany · 03/06/2024 18:45

Time you got over it 🙄

Honestly, it would be easier if the people who supported it had the guts to admit they were wrong now!

OP posts:
EffortlesslyInelegant · 03/06/2024 18:52

whyhavetheygotsomany · 03/06/2024 18:45

Time you got over it 🙄

This dumb comment shows a paucity of comprehension that makes me worry that people like you have a vote at all.
Agree or don't agree but for heavens sakes do better than 'waaaaaah get over it'

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