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Friendship group split unexpectedly wwyd?

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Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 08:41

I have name changed for this, for obvious reasons.

I have a group of 8 friends, we have been good friends for 13 years or so since the kids were born.

Last week it was friend A birthday dinner. I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

On the evening of the birthday, drinks are planned, dinner to follow. I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

I arrive for dinner. The atmosphere is terrible, I give friend A my birthday gift. She then says how disappointed and angry she is that I let her down for the drinks. I am blindsided by this, she looks angry. Second friend chips in that she managed to make it on time and she has 4 kids. Another friend agreed with them and said it was poor form on birthday events. I apologised and said it couldn’t be helped. I started to cry I am embarrassed to say. Another friend tells the others to back off a bit, that it’s fair enough summer days is going through a difficult time, to that another friend then says words to the effect that I should be more organised. The group then seemed to split in two. One half were having a go at me, the other standing up for me.

I felt sick to my stomach and somehow for through the dinner and cried all of the way home.

wwyd in this situation?

It felt like I was being ganged up on at the time, it was genuinely horrible. I felt they had discussed it before I got there, like it was pre planned or something.

Do you think it’s ever okay to take it in turns as part of a group having a go at one person? I am just so upset still. Just for the record I am very reliable and not a flake at all. I don’t know if I ever want to see them again.

OP posts:
LookItsMeAgain · 04/06/2024 11:36

IamNewToThisGame · 04/06/2024 11:26

I can't believe that none of them have replied and acknowledged how out of order it all was???!!!!!

I hope they have their collective tails between their legs (but I fear that they are so oblivious to their conduct because no one has passed comment on it up to now).

@Summerdays24 - you are better off without these particular people in your life. I do hope that you're feeling a bit better in yourself and that your DH is doing well, all things considered.

IamNewToThisGame · 04/06/2024 11:26

I can't believe that none of them have replied and acknowledged how out of order it all was???!!!!!

Cotonsugar · 04/06/2024 11:07

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:03

I really wanted to walk out, but I didn’t because I really didn’t want to ruin her night. She was complaining later that the others hadn’t brought her anything, but she didn’t even thank me for my present and just put it the side.

am just so gutted. Only one of the group texted to check if I was okay afterwards. The conversation has continued on WA about girls holidays as if nothing has happened.

This woman is giving off mean girl vibes. Complaining about gifts? Seriously, high school entitlement antics😐

Notthisshitforthehundredthtime · 04/06/2024 10:46

Oh OP, I'm so sorry. This didn't happen with a whole group and me but one woman.

We were doing a course together that was mainly men and became very close within a group with other men. She was prone to taking advantage but I didn't take it personally, it seemed fairly harmless if quite irritating. We were in our 30s, I'd a good social life and wasn't short on money and all was well in my life.

Then I got cancer. I was actually with her when I was rushed to hospital. I asked her to phone my mother which she did. I literally never saw her again. She sent some flaky messages initially saying she would be in to visit but she very busy so couldn't say when. This was a woman I'd seen nearly everyday for four years. I was always up for some fun and I usually paid as she had financial challenges.

Years later she contacted me on social media saying she would love to catch up. I laughed.

If I hadn't experienced it myself I would say this could never happen.

I'm so sorry you're going through this but really if they are those types of people this would have happened at some stage.

I am far choosier now about who I spend my time (my most valuable resource) with. Quality over quantity when it comes to friends.

LazyGewl · 04/06/2024 10:28

Arconialiving · 03/06/2024 23:58

I agree with this. She's vile.

I have someone in my family who does this. They've done it to me twice. Once when my mum was dying and again now that a close family member is ill and needs care (which I am helping with). They recently went non contact with me, but in the process made me feel so bad about myself because I kept thinking that there must be a reason for someone treating me like that, but these people are incredibly self centred. My family member had no thought that what she did was taking an incredible toll on my mental health.

Op, there are ways in which your friend could have put a bit of distance between you if she can't cope with illness, but to do it in this manner when you are so vulnerable and going through so much speaks volumes. That others in the group have followed suit is absolutely reprehensible.

suki1964 · 04/06/2024 10:22

Didnt rtht , just your posts

Well done for saying what you had to say and then removing yourself

I wish you every strength moving forward and I hope that those that are real friends stand by you moving forward

hookiewookie29 · 04/06/2024 10:16

Summerdays24 · 04/06/2024 09:09

There have been no further replies on WA and the chat has moved on. I have removed myself this morning, and messaged a few of the others that I am stepping away and focusing on dh for a while.

I am being dropped because he is ill, and we are not a ‘fun couple’ anymore I guess. We have suddenly found out that they are not real friends, and their friendship is conditional on us being available for ‘good times’ only, I have no doubt birthday friend has engineered this change, as she has not even acknowledged me since the dinner.

Thank you for your support and such great advice. I can see why pp avoid groups! The issue is you don’t just lose one friend but all of your friends in one go when things go wrong.

@Summerdays24 you definitely find out who your friends are in situations like this!
My DH became ill several years ago. He was in the construction business, did a lot of cheap work for friends.....then had to give up work due to various health reasons. Haven't seen or heard from so called friends- even his best friend of over 35 years- for 8 years. It hit him hard. But the problem is their's, not his.

alrightluv · 04/06/2024 10:13

Well done @Summerdays24 . Hopefully when things settle you'll find 'grown up' friends who can cope with real life. And you always have us.

YouJustDoYou · 04/06/2024 10:12

Wow, they were extremely idiotic and immature. Sod them op. I wouldn't want people like that as friends.

mirax · 04/06/2024 10:07

Just read through Op's replies. Well Done Op!Flowers Hang out with good people and all the best to your DH and your family.

mirax · 04/06/2024 10:00

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:03

I really wanted to walk out, but I didn’t because I really didn’t want to ruin her night. She was complaining later that the others hadn’t brought her anything, but she didn’t even thank me for my present and just put it the side.

am just so gutted. Only one of the group texted to check if I was okay afterwards. The conversation has continued on WA about girls holidays as if nothing has happened.

Sorry, my very best friends are women but I went to a girls' school and believe in toxic femininity because for a short while, I was the school rebel and excommunicated (not to worry, this was the making of my character) and I saw how female group dynamics play out when there are queen bees around. Those women are not your friends, birthdays are important but they are for showing care and concern, not making obeisance to the queen bee. The birthday "girl" sounds like a total bitch. Ditch.

loropianalover · 04/06/2024 09:57

OP I think it’s just brilliant that you said your piece and then removed yourself from the group so swiftly. There’s plenty of threads on here that go on for 40 pages with the OP too scared or meek to set any boundaries.

If you were still in that group you’d be twitching every time you hear what’s app and wondering what’s going on even if you had muted the chat. You are so right for leaving, I hope you and your husband can be good supports to each other during this time! You’ve got enough on your plate without a ‘friend’ crying over her birthday drinks 🤢

Princesscounsuelabananahammock · 04/06/2024 09:54

Thank you for your support and such great advice. I can see why pp avoid groups! The issue is you don’t just lose one friend but all of your friends in one go when things go wrong.

Yes but another way of looking at it is the trash threw itself out 😉

You will be fine and as awful as your situation is you'll find out who your real friends are and have time to form even stronger bonds with these people and surround yourself with the positivity you need

GCAcademic · 04/06/2024 09:34

Overthebay · 03/06/2024 11:44

They are preparing to kick you out of the group because of your husbands illness. It happens. How you react now, be careful, they will make it look like it’s your fault

That was precisely what I thought, on reading the OP. Like a pack of wild animals. Vile.

Mary46 · 04/06/2024 09:27

Hope u ok. Op my cousin texted after year half to find out what college my daughter got. My point is here they flaky bitches. I keep my circle small now. You dont need this shit

Summerdays24 · 04/06/2024 09:25

TheaBrandt · 04/06/2024 09:21

Twist it round you must be awesome company if your lack of presence at some drinks causes such an upset!

😂 Yes they clearly couldn’t cope without me! 🍸

OP posts:
TheaBrandt · 04/06/2024 09:21

Twist it round you must be awesome company if your lack of presence at some drinks causes such an upset!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/06/2024 09:12

Summerdays24 · 04/06/2024 09:09

There have been no further replies on WA and the chat has moved on. I have removed myself this morning, and messaged a few of the others that I am stepping away and focusing on dh for a while.

I am being dropped because he is ill, and we are not a ‘fun couple’ anymore I guess. We have suddenly found out that they are not real friends, and their friendship is conditional on us being available for ‘good times’ only, I have no doubt birthday friend has engineered this change, as she has not even acknowledged me since the dinner.

Thank you for your support and such great advice. I can see why pp avoid groups! The issue is you don’t just lose one friend but all of your friends in one go when things go wrong.

Ahh sorry you’ve had to go through this op. People can be really shit. Well done on letting them know about it and keeping your head high. I truly hope they find this thread and learn something about themselves. Wish all the best for you and your DH.

Summerdays24 · 04/06/2024 09:09

There have been no further replies on WA and the chat has moved on. I have removed myself this morning, and messaged a few of the others that I am stepping away and focusing on dh for a while.

I am being dropped because he is ill, and we are not a ‘fun couple’ anymore I guess. We have suddenly found out that they are not real friends, and their friendship is conditional on us being available for ‘good times’ only, I have no doubt birthday friend has engineered this change, as she has not even acknowledged me since the dinner.

Thank you for your support and such great advice. I can see why pp avoid groups! The issue is you don’t just lose one friend but all of your friends in one go when things go wrong.

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McHot · 04/06/2024 09:08

Wwyd?

I'd just have told them to pack it in or I'm going tbh.

I wouldn't see it as friendship ending as if you've known your friends for years, the bonds should be such that you can have disagreements without throwing the baby out with the bath water so to speak. And friends don't all have to be besties all the time. It's a social group of fallible humans at the end of the day and we all fuck up and do unfriendly things at times unless we're suck up people pleasers who are far worse as they lack any kind of character or personality of their own. (Obviously not mumsnet people...)

BUT, you are going through a delicate time and your good long term friends should be treating you gently. If they don't get that, space is a good idea.

I'm not a fan of burning bridges over small but annoying squabbles and upsets that we teach our children to navigate every day, its all part of being a social species, sometimes we're not going to be our best selves and you never know when you may need the association with that person down the line, in another setting, where they act differently.

But I'm certainly a fan of categorising friends based on their actions i.e. close, intimate, social only. So if you don't feel you can trust these friends even on a social level at present, I would be filing them under associates for now and concentrating on your own and your husbands wellbeing.

SirVixofVixHall · 04/06/2024 08:32

Chickenuggetsticks · 03/06/2024 09:06

Oh wow, if I had been your friend I would have just been glad that you had been able to make some of it. I would have totally understood if you bowed out altogether tbh.

They were really horrible.

This.
I am shocked ! Also are they five year olds ? Who is this precious about birthday drinks ? It isn’t as if she was left alone in a restaurant for ages, and even that under the circs would have been something to not make a fuss about.

tigger1001 · 04/06/2024 08:08

DancingNotDrowning · 03/06/2024 09:27

Flaking on birthday drinks? Her DH was stuck on a late running train and she couldn't leave her kids alone. What's flaky about that?

not leaving your 13+ child because your DH is running an hour late sounds flakey to me and likely sounded flakey to the birthday girl.

Have you considered she may also have younger children??

ThisHeartySloth · 04/06/2024 07:55

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:07

It’s a perfectly valid question. I am never late, quite anal about it. Apart from once because of covid, I don’t think I have ever cancelled. I am not a flaky person at all.

I'm sorry this happened to you. What a horrible evening, and very odd of them. I'm trying to make sense of them (and perhaps it isn't possible!), but have you ever commented on her being late for something before? Maybe she took offense?

Brushmyteeth · 04/06/2024 07:54

babymamalove · 04/06/2024 02:10

Your ‘friend’ is a narcissist and she has also turned the others against you. That word is so overused these days but a similar thing happened to me. I kept in touch with the nice ones and got rid of the rest.

OP this is spot on

DBSFstupid · 04/06/2024 07:45

CocoapuffPuff · 03/06/2024 10:02

I think you know the answer, OP.

It's a spectacular cruelty to bring someone to tears in a restaurant and keep sniping going like that.

People do awful things when pissed, granted, it's still no reason to continue the beating.

Mute the group, protect your health and your family, look after your DH, focus on other friendships and move on from this pack of howler monkeys. Do NOT go to the bbq. Don't engage, don't look at any posts, don't respond to direct contact beyond " I'm taking some time out to protect my health and my family for the time being".

Let them get on with it without you.

This. 100%.

OP none of them deserve any more input from you. You say you have other close friends. This will be enough. You just don't need any of this crap.
Disengage 100%.

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you x