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Friendship group split unexpectedly wwyd?

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Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 08:41

I have name changed for this, for obvious reasons.

I have a group of 8 friends, we have been good friends for 13 years or so since the kids were born.

Last week it was friend A birthday dinner. I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

On the evening of the birthday, drinks are planned, dinner to follow. I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

I arrive for dinner. The atmosphere is terrible, I give friend A my birthday gift. She then says how disappointed and angry she is that I let her down for the drinks. I am blindsided by this, she looks angry. Second friend chips in that she managed to make it on time and she has 4 kids. Another friend agreed with them and said it was poor form on birthday events. I apologised and said it couldn’t be helped. I started to cry I am embarrassed to say. Another friend tells the others to back off a bit, that it’s fair enough summer days is going through a difficult time, to that another friend then says words to the effect that I should be more organised. The group then seemed to split in two. One half were having a go at me, the other standing up for me.

I felt sick to my stomach and somehow for through the dinner and cried all of the way home.

wwyd in this situation?

It felt like I was being ganged up on at the time, it was genuinely horrible. I felt they had discussed it before I got there, like it was pre planned or something.

Do you think it’s ever okay to take it in turns as part of a group having a go at one person? I am just so upset still. Just for the record I am very reliable and not a flake at all. I don’t know if I ever want to see them again.

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Misty333 · 04/06/2024 18:45

Appalling behaviour, you must be so hurt. Only one asked how you were😕😕speaks volumes about the type of people they are. Ditch!!

ToWhitToWhoo · 04/06/2024 18:44

This is horrible behaviour by the 'friend' and her cohorts. That she was also moaning about her husband 'disappointing' her, and about other people not bringing presents (this would be considered rude in a 6-year-old), indicates that she is an extreme birthday-zilla and an all-round spoilt brat. The way she treated you would be awful even if your dh were not so ill and you were not recovering from surgery; under the circumstances it is inexcusable. I suspect that those who sided with her were weaklings, whom she was blaming for not bringing presents, and were trying to direct the heat from themselves onto you. Anyway, now you know who in the group are your real friends. I do wish you and your dh all the best with your health.

StuffLoriThangs · 04/06/2024 18:29

Well done OP. You showed so much restraint than I would have done in the WhatsApp group. But I honestly think you’ve been so dignified, despite feeling really awful about it all.

hold your head high

Soberinthecity · 04/06/2024 18:23

This is ‘mean girl’ behaviour. Seriously….id not be hanging out with anyone who behaved so badly. Just rude.

Clueless2024 · 04/06/2024 18:10

They are not very good friends. It sounds like they've picked the "weakest", the one going through a hard time, to put the boot in. They'd be doing so to make themselves feel better about their own shitty lives. I'd distance myself from these people & tell them exactly why. I hate that pack mentality.

Coco2024 · 04/06/2024 17:51

I feel like some people genuinely lack empathy and can’t put themselves in other peoples shoes.

Coco2024 · 04/06/2024 17:50

This is horrific. So sorry you went through this. Some friends are fair weather friends, they can’t relate to or really understand what others are going through/ I got diagnosed with a rare condition and my short term future was unknown at the time. I found myself in the weirdest situation where I was literally dropped by a best friend because possibly she felt like it would not be fun to support a Friend who is unwell. What I’m trying to say is your friends show their true colours when you’re goijg through something challenging! It took me some time to come to terms with this!

Ohnobackagain · 04/06/2024 15:23

Good for you @Summerdays24 and as she didn’t bother to thank you for the gift I’m imagining a conversation where you tell her to give it back (obviously pretend but - bloody cheeky obnoxious cow - fuming on your behalf).

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 04/06/2024 14:10

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 04/06/2024 13:35

And I wouldn't be surprised if the 'drama llama' poster was one of them. Seems to have roughly the same level of empathy.

If they are here reading this then shame on them.

If they aren’t here but are women or men tempted to do this to their “friends” then maybe this thread has made people sit up and look at behaviour.

Redflagman · 04/06/2024 13:49

Wow the birthday girl A, what a utter selfish bitch. You've just had surgery weeks ago and are still recovering, which in itself is a big thing, your husband has just found out he is seriously ill with a life limiting illness that will require lengthy invasive treatment.

Then in the day/evening a train is cancelled so your husband is late home, you can't leave to attend A's birthday on-time because you can't leave a 7 year old child home alone, so you know your going to be late, you miss the pre dinner drinks but you let A know you'll be late/miss drinks but you'll be there for the dinner. You arrive and bring a gift (others did not) and they have ago at you! What deplorable, selfish behaviour. OP you are definitely better away from those ghastly women. How utterly immature and disgusting! Shame on them! The audacity is breathtaking....A is a selfish bitch. Regina George. The film means girls is based on a book called queen bee and Wannabees...

You sound lovely x hope you recover from your surgery and your husband gets well soon.

Mary46 · 04/06/2024 13:35

Feel for the op but some women dont grow out of this mean goady behaviour. Horrible.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 04/06/2024 13:35

Hedgeoffressian · 03/06/2024 19:36

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of them are on here reading this thread 🙄

And I wouldn't be surprised if the 'drama llama' poster was one of them. Seems to have roughly the same level of empathy.

TheaBrandt · 04/06/2024 13:29

I don’t think you can extrapolate that all large female friend groups are bad it’s personality led. One of our local mum friend grouo had an awful health crisis as a group we took it in turns to visit had a whip round for a thoughtful gift and had a WhatsApp without her to coordinate our support. So the opposite of this group.

Nazzywish · 04/06/2024 13:24

what was the gift OP. Please tell meshe returned it out of shame, good enough to keep the present though was it !

Princesscounsuelabananahammock · 04/06/2024 13:23

1offnamechange · 04/06/2024 12:26

???
Do you not think its a bit OTT to extrapolate that because ONE person has had ONE issue in ONE friendship group after 13 years, that ALL large friendship groups are superficial?

What counts as "large?" I'm interested to know what the boundary is - if I've got 3 friends are we a supportive and close group of friends but adding one more person suddenly makes us a superficial group of bitches?

Overexaggerated and tbh jealous sounding posts like this are as ridiculous as OPs birthday friend reaction.

This isn't 'one issue' it's a gang of women who OP thought were her friends systematically and manipulatively isolating OP from their group due to their own petty insecurities at a time when she needs them most. I stand by my observation. There's no absolutes but in my experience these friendship groups are pure fakery

RampantIvy · 04/06/2024 12:29

@Summerdays24 I'm absolutely horrified for you that these people were so vile and unsupportive. If I had been at that dinner with you I would have walked out with you and ended the friendships with them.

I can't believe that some women can be so vile and self centrered.

Wishing you a speedy recovery and best wishes to your family Flowers

1offnamechange · 04/06/2024 12:26

Princesscounsuelabananahammock · 04/06/2024 06:23

OP you have learned the hard way that large groups of 'friends' like this are rarely anything but superficial. There's a group of the mums at my dd's school who are like this. They act like they're the best of friends and post photos online etc just for show but the minute the other's backs are turned they're bitching not just about each other but each other's kids. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

I sometimes feel a bit inadequate because I don't really have many friends but then I realise that I'm not 12 any more and don't have the time or energy for such fakery. My little family will always be my priority and grown adults who need to pretend to like each other just for the sake of an instagram post and somebody to stand next to at the school gate live a much sadder existence than those who are comfortable enough in their own skin to not need such bullcrap IMO.

You definitely don't have time for fake friends with everything you're facing. You need real people who are comfortable with your situation and will support you when you need it. These women have shown you their true colours. As the saying goes 'when someone shows you who they really are, believe them' Give the bitchy women a wide berth. Maybe reach out to the ones who were kind to you (especially the one who stuck up for you and squeezed your arm) I'd be tempted to message these privately and just let them know that you appreciate their support and that if they want a coffee any time then you'd love that.

See this as a positive OP. You've seen these people for who they are before you face bigger challenges. You're free of their fuckwittery now and can concentrate on what really matters.

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???
Do you not think its a bit OTT to extrapolate that because ONE person has had ONE issue in ONE friendship group after 13 years, that ALL large friendship groups are superficial?

What counts as "large?" I'm interested to know what the boundary is - if I've got 3 friends are we a supportive and close group of friends but adding one more person suddenly makes us a superficial group of bitches?

Overexaggerated and tbh jealous sounding posts like this are as ridiculous as OPs birthday friend reaction.

JackieGoodman · 04/06/2024 12:09

Oh well done OP, the trash took themselves out, they showed you who they really are. It's very hard when you realise people you thought were friends are actually not.

Good luck to you and your family Flowers

ColdGirlWinter · 04/06/2024 12:08

Since reading this thread over the last day or two it's reminded me of a scenario with some friends when we were students, about 20. There was a definite 'queen bee' person who I was 'grateful' to be friends with from around 15 years old but I only recognise her as that now we look back and I'm not friends with her now - neither are any of the other women funnily enough ...

What happened was that I had another friend with the same name and Queen Bee Rachel had a boyfriend called Luke, and they kept splitting up. Whilst split up he had a few dates with another friend of mine also called Rachel but this didn't progress. One evening I was out with QB Rachel and three other friends and in the club I saw Luke with his friends and chatted to him when he told me that he'd enjoyed dates with my friend and vice versa but they didn't fancy each other.

Evening progressed as normal then when I next asked QB when we were going out again (see there, why I didn't organise it myself) she was bitchy as hell. "Sophie heard you talking to Luke about me and told me" she bleated at me. I explained it was not her we were talking about and she'd clearly just heard the first name being mentioned but she was huffy and said "Well ring me again sometime" and hung up.

I left them to it and avoided her and went out with other friends but I did see her with Luke out a few months after so they had got back together, and they both spoke to me so cordiality was resumed. The following year we all (girls) went on holiday together and it was fine, but on reflection she called the shots as to what we did. She dumped Luke and eventually married someone else. I actually had a date with Luke myself but never told her😉

Now I recognise what she was doing. In our first year she had a bitch about her zits and how I looked "it's all right for you with a face like that" and she joined in with the year's Mean Girl to have a go at me when I got a particular boyfriend. She could be a mean girl herself.

Years later I bumped into Luke in a coffee shop and we chatted. He's married now and he asked me if I ever saw Rachel. I told him no and told him why!

They do this because they are just rotten underneath. Not real friends at all. I wish I'd found that out 15 years ago.

Mnk711 · 04/06/2024 11:59

Very simple OP. Fuck 'em.

Stick with the nice friends, bin the rest. Better to find out now that if/when DH is even more unwell and you were relying on their support. I'm sorry though, it's horrible. Great you have a nice SIL to rely on too.

Crazycrazylady · 04/06/2024 11:58

I'm

lovescats3 · 04/06/2024 11:55

Those people who had a go at you are not friends ditch them stay in touch with the ones who supported you

YouOKHun · 04/06/2024 11:52

@IamNewToThisGame I absolutely can believe it (sadly). This woman’s flying monkeys are under strict [unspoken] instructions. I wouldn’t be surprised if they know somewhere inside themselves that this woman’s behaviour was totally out of order but they’ve got to save their own skins, responding to OP would risk being cast out. I bet they’ve observed what falling out of favour looks like a few times.

These sorts of people kind of get off on the fact someone else has been made the villain. It’s almost like a mini cult where the central person decides who is in and out of favour and these weak people pander to that. They never discuss situations between them without Queen Bee’s input. If they start talking to each other and doubts creep in, such as ‘I actually don’t think she was very nice to OP’ then that is fatal for Queen Bee. I bet that little group never socialise without QB there.

I’ve seen this kind of things so often. It’s what my Granny would have called ‘emotional cowardice’ and it stinks. OP is well out of it even though it was painful and very unfair.

WitchWithoutChips · 04/06/2024 11:52

You sound absolutely awesome, OP, and I'm so sorry you are in such a tough situation. All very best wishes to you and your DH Flowers.

ColdGirlWinter · 04/06/2024 11:40

hookiewookie29 · 04/06/2024 10:16

@Summerdays24 you definitely find out who your friends are in situations like this!
My DH became ill several years ago. He was in the construction business, did a lot of cheap work for friends.....then had to give up work due to various health reasons. Haven't seen or heard from so called friends- even his best friend of over 35 years- for 8 years. It hit him hard. But the problem is their's, not his.

Horrid isn't it, you feel as if you have wasted years on people when it was all fake superficial 'friendship'.