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Friendship group split unexpectedly wwyd?

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Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 08:41

I have name changed for this, for obvious reasons.

I have a group of 8 friends, we have been good friends for 13 years or so since the kids were born.

Last week it was friend A birthday dinner. I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

On the evening of the birthday, drinks are planned, dinner to follow. I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

I arrive for dinner. The atmosphere is terrible, I give friend A my birthday gift. She then says how disappointed and angry she is that I let her down for the drinks. I am blindsided by this, she looks angry. Second friend chips in that she managed to make it on time and she has 4 kids. Another friend agreed with them and said it was poor form on birthday events. I apologised and said it couldn’t be helped. I started to cry I am embarrassed to say. Another friend tells the others to back off a bit, that it’s fair enough summer days is going through a difficult time, to that another friend then says words to the effect that I should be more organised. The group then seemed to split in two. One half were having a go at me, the other standing up for me.

I felt sick to my stomach and somehow for through the dinner and cried all of the way home.

wwyd in this situation?

It felt like I was being ganged up on at the time, it was genuinely horrible. I felt they had discussed it before I got there, like it was pre planned or something.

Do you think it’s ever okay to take it in turns as part of a group having a go at one person? I am just so upset still. Just for the record I am very reliable and not a flake at all. I don’t know if I ever want to see them again.

OP posts:
Perfectpots · 03/06/2024 09:16

Stripeysocks1981 · 03/06/2024 09:15

Birthday girl needs to grow up. What a silly, spoiled, self centred bitch she is. No real friend would treat you like this OP. I would have been upset too. 💐

Absolutely agree.

MermaidEyes · 03/06/2024 09:16

Birthday girl sounds like an entitled brat. I would seriously be rethinking my friendship with some of these women.

Stripeysocks1981 · 03/06/2024 09:15

Birthday girl needs to grow up. What a silly, spoiled, self centred bitch she is. No real friend would treat you like this OP. I would have been upset too. 💐

JWhipple · 03/06/2024 09:13

NC10125 · 03/06/2024 09:05

Can I ask a question?

How often do you arrive late or cancel something which is pre-planned?

If this is the only time that this has happened then I would say that they are being really unreasonable. But, the fact that so many of them were in agreement makes me think that this isn't a one-off but a regular occurrence. And they have chosen a poor time and method to address it but that perhaps they do have some right on their side.

I have a friend from childhood who I love to pieces. She is late or cancels on me really regularly, often with very little notice. I would never stop being friends with her - she's someone who is important to me and I have an understanding of why this happens more for her - but she has lost a lot of friends over the years which I assume has come from this behavior because she is otherwise lovely.

It impacts me because I'll invite her for dinner, buy all of the ingredients, start the cooking and then she'll cancel. Or we'll agree to go for a meal and I'll keep the evening free and start getting ready and then she'll text. She would say that she always has good reasons - something is delayed; she is ill; she is tired - but the good reasons don't stop the impact on me.

With my friend I don't get cross with her because I know that it would upset her, but I do put limits on how and where I meet her and what I agree to do together which feels a bit sad sometimes.

I don't want to upset you when you've already had a very upsetting evening, but I wondered whether seeing this from the other side might be helpful.

I get where you're coming from but on this occasion the reason she was late was out of her hands.
Train cancelled meant husband late so leaving kids alone so she could get there in time for drinks.
And even if there is a backstory, surely due to her husband's diagnosis plus having surgery herself recently pretty much trumps all of that?
The people who decided to rant at her are absolutely awful. If not one of them had spoken to her previously on a one to one about her timekeeping etc then this is surely just bullying.

Chances are they were also trying to all deflect that the birthday girl was fuming none of them had bought her a gift.

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:13

olympicsrock · 03/06/2024 09:11

I would contact one of the ones who defended you to found out a bit more information.
If it is as seems I would be leaving the WhatsApp group . But before going I would message the birthday girl to say how upset you are. Give her the chance to apologise. If she doesn’t in the light of day then I would leave and put a comment to say how upset you were that some of them had a go at you.

message the nice ones individually and ask to stay in touch. The others are not worth it.

I am seriously thinking of doing this, as I can’t face them now. Birthday friend is unlikely to apologise, she will feel justified in being honest about her feelings.

I will keep in touch with the nicer ones and step back. It’s honestly the last thing I need right now.

OP posts:
Eleganz · 03/06/2024 09:12

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:10

Some of them did understand, it was birthday friend and the ones in the group closest to her that were annoyed.

I am supposed to be going to a bbq next weekend with them, and kids and I really don’t want to go now.

Just don't go.

If anyone asks say that you found the reaction to you being late because your husband's train was cancelled was totally unacceptable, especially at the moment with what you are dealing with. You don't want to spend time with people who make your life more difficult at this time.

olympicsrock · 03/06/2024 09:11

I would contact one of the ones who defended you to found out a bit more information.
If it is as seems I would be leaving the WhatsApp group . But before going I would message the birthday girl to say how upset you are. Give her the chance to apologise. If she doesn’t in the light of day then I would leave and put a comment to say how upset you were that some of them had a go at you.

message the nice ones individually and ask to stay in touch. The others are not worth it.

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:11

Maybe stepping back is best now. I have no idea how this might be resolved.

OP posts:
TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:10

supermooniskeepingmeup · 03/06/2024 09:08

Does that even matter? She said she wouldn't make the drinks - it's not the Spanish Inquisition, or it shouldn't be!

OP, you did nothing wrong. Time to drop the ones who were horrible to you. Life's too short to spend precious time on immature brats!

Well yes it could do.

If for example the OP 'needed' to cook dinner for her husband before she left the house, that would probably piss them off (although it would NOT give them the right to be nasty).

I have a colleague like this who treats her husband like a child, and would rather be late than have him dish up his own dinner.

But the OP explained it was the DC anyway.

Eleganz · 03/06/2024 09:10

I'd have zero time for anyone who decided to get angry at me for something totally out of my control like a cancelled train. That would be enough to seriously damage a friendship. The fact that you are going through a tough time in your life shouldn't even matter here, but clearly just makes their behaviour worse.

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:10

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:08

Oh sod them then!

That's so strange they wouldn't all understand the late train and the DC situation though.

Some of them did understand, it was birthday friend and the ones in the group closest to her that were annoyed.

I am supposed to be going to a bbq next weekend with them, and kids and I really don’t want to go now.

OP posts:
supermooniskeepingmeup · 03/06/2024 09:09

mondaytosunday · 03/06/2024 09:04

I'd be saying in the group chat something like 'I was shocked at some of the groups reaction to me missing part of the birthday evening. You know that I am not well and my husband has just had devastating news. He comes first and it was an unavoidable delay. That a few of you could not show any empathy has hurt me deeply. I'll be concentrating on my family for the time being'.

I like that very much.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:08

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:04

Yes explained I can’t leave the kids until he is back, but I would def be there in time for dinner.

Oh sod them then!

That's so strange they wouldn't all understand the late train and the DC situation though.

supermooniskeepingmeup · 03/06/2024 09:08

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:01

I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

Why did this mean you couldn't make it to the drinks?

Did you explain it to them?

Does that even matter? She said she wouldn't make the drinks - it's not the Spanish Inquisition, or it shouldn't be!

OP, you did nothing wrong. Time to drop the ones who were horrible to you. Life's too short to spend precious time on immature brats!

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:07

NC10125 · 03/06/2024 09:05

Can I ask a question?

How often do you arrive late or cancel something which is pre-planned?

If this is the only time that this has happened then I would say that they are being really unreasonable. But, the fact that so many of them were in agreement makes me think that this isn't a one-off but a regular occurrence. And they have chosen a poor time and method to address it but that perhaps they do have some right on their side.

I have a friend from childhood who I love to pieces. She is late or cancels on me really regularly, often with very little notice. I would never stop being friends with her - she's someone who is important to me and I have an understanding of why this happens more for her - but she has lost a lot of friends over the years which I assume has come from this behavior because she is otherwise lovely.

It impacts me because I'll invite her for dinner, buy all of the ingredients, start the cooking and then she'll cancel. Or we'll agree to go for a meal and I'll keep the evening free and start getting ready and then she'll text. She would say that she always has good reasons - something is delayed; she is ill; she is tired - but the good reasons don't stop the impact on me.

With my friend I don't get cross with her because I know that it would upset her, but I do put limits on how and where I meet her and what I agree to do together which feels a bit sad sometimes.

I don't want to upset you when you've already had a very upsetting evening, but I wondered whether seeing this from the other side might be helpful.

It’s a perfectly valid question. I am never late, quite anal about it. Apart from once because of covid, I don’t think I have ever cancelled. I am not a flaky person at all.

OP posts:
Chickenuggetsticks · 03/06/2024 09:06

Oh wow, if I had been your friend I would have just been glad that you had been able to make some of it. I would have totally understood if you bowed out altogether tbh.

They were really horrible.

Baaliali · 03/06/2024 09:05

That is really shit. I have learned over the years that people treat you how you let them. Don’t give them the opportunity to behave that way towards you again.

You were held late by an unexpected issue, you have a lot going on that they know about. The women who did that to you are not your friends.

Stay in the group and prioritise the women who are your friends. Put up an emotional wall for the ones who are not your friends, don’t consider them friends just acquaintances who are part of a common group, and move on once you feel strong enough. Their behaviour was appalling.

NC10125 · 03/06/2024 09:05

Can I ask a question?

How often do you arrive late or cancel something which is pre-planned?

If this is the only time that this has happened then I would say that they are being really unreasonable. But, the fact that so many of them were in agreement makes me think that this isn't a one-off but a regular occurrence. And they have chosen a poor time and method to address it but that perhaps they do have some right on their side.

I have a friend from childhood who I love to pieces. She is late or cancels on me really regularly, often with very little notice. I would never stop being friends with her - she's someone who is important to me and I have an understanding of why this happens more for her - but she has lost a lot of friends over the years which I assume has come from this behavior because she is otherwise lovely.

It impacts me because I'll invite her for dinner, buy all of the ingredients, start the cooking and then she'll cancel. Or we'll agree to go for a meal and I'll keep the evening free and start getting ready and then she'll text. She would say that she always has good reasons - something is delayed; she is ill; she is tired - but the good reasons don't stop the impact on me.

With my friend I don't get cross with her because I know that it would upset her, but I do put limits on how and where I meet her and what I agree to do together which feels a bit sad sometimes.

I don't want to upset you when you've already had a very upsetting evening, but I wondered whether seeing this from the other side might be helpful.

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:04

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:01

I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

Why did this mean you couldn't make it to the drinks?

Did you explain it to them?

Yes explained I can’t leave the kids until he is back, but I would def be there in time for dinner.

OP posts:
heldinadream · 03/06/2024 09:04

Crikey, what a bunch of self-absorbed tossers.
Flowers for you OP. People can prove to be not what you've hitherto thought they were. I'm so sorry you're going though such a rough time and that portion of your friendship group have no empathy or imagination. Take as long as you need to re-evaluate this. Take care of yourself. Very sorry to hear about your DH's diagnosis.

mondaytosunday · 03/06/2024 09:04

I'd be saying in the group chat something like 'I was shocked at some of the groups reaction to me missing part of the birthday evening. You know that I am not well and my husband has just had devastating news. He comes first and it was an unavoidable delay. That a few of you could not show any empathy has hurt me deeply. I'll be concentrating on my family for the time being'.

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:03

I really wanted to walk out, but I didn’t because I really didn’t want to ruin her night. She was complaining later that the others hadn’t brought her anything, but she didn’t even thank me for my present and just put it the side.

am just so gutted. Only one of the group texted to check if I was okay afterwards. The conversation has continued on WA about girls holidays as if nothing has happened.

OP posts:
ClockworkDisaster · 03/06/2024 09:03

When people show their true colours, believe them.

I’m sorry that you have been treated this way.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:01

I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

Why did this mean you couldn't make it to the drinks?

Did you explain it to them?

GrimDamnFanjo · 03/06/2024 09:01

Well the good news is that you have seen them all for who they really are.