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Friendship group split unexpectedly wwyd?

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Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 08:41

I have name changed for this, for obvious reasons.

I have a group of 8 friends, we have been good friends for 13 years or so since the kids were born.

Last week it was friend A birthday dinner. I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

On the evening of the birthday, drinks are planned, dinner to follow. I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

I arrive for dinner. The atmosphere is terrible, I give friend A my birthday gift. She then says how disappointed and angry she is that I let her down for the drinks. I am blindsided by this, she looks angry. Second friend chips in that she managed to make it on time and she has 4 kids. Another friend agreed with them and said it was poor form on birthday events. I apologised and said it couldn’t be helped. I started to cry I am embarrassed to say. Another friend tells the others to back off a bit, that it’s fair enough summer days is going through a difficult time, to that another friend then says words to the effect that I should be more organised. The group then seemed to split in two. One half were having a go at me, the other standing up for me.

I felt sick to my stomach and somehow for through the dinner and cried all of the way home.

wwyd in this situation?

It felt like I was being ganged up on at the time, it was genuinely horrible. I felt they had discussed it before I got there, like it was pre planned or something.

Do you think it’s ever okay to take it in turns as part of a group having a go at one person? I am just so upset still. Just for the record I am very reliable and not a flake at all. I don’t know if I ever want to see them again.

OP posts:
Demonhunter · 03/06/2024 12:42

Adults who make this much of a fuss over birthdays are ridiculous. You still made it to dinner with everything you have going on! With friends like those @Summerdays24 who needs enemies!

LoobyDop · 03/06/2024 12:42

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:45

Just to say my youngest has just turned 7, there is no way I would leave them. Dh was unsure when he would get back. I obv couldn’t take them with me.

I have asked the friend I am closest to about it, apparently birthday friend was fuming because her dh disappointed her earlier in the day and she was already in a bad mood at the drinks. I don’t feel I can compromise my friend further by asking her what I should do re: the group, but she did say she herself saw them in a new light.

I feel like walking. I do have childhood friends and other people that I am close to, but I have had a really fun time with this group but maybe it is just superficial, despite us supporting other issues over the years. I have seen a different side to them.

I don’t think it would compromise your friend if you asked her that. You aren’t asking her to intervene- although if she offers I don’t see a problem with taking her up on it- but for advice. She might think that if you left it a few days they’ll calm down.

Don’t be too swayed by the keyboard warriors telling you to cut them all off and never speak to them again. It’s very easy to say that from behind a screen, and it’s not easy to make new friends in adulthood. Find out what’s going on before you make a decision or react in a way you can’t back away from.

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:41

HarrietPierce · 03/06/2024 12:37

Nanny0gg

"At that point, where did it say the ages of other children?"

The OP says her youngest has just turned 7

I know. After I posted

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 03/06/2024 12:41

Never mind OP. I once arranged to meet a friend before her birthday meal but she didn’t turn up. When I finally got hold of her on the phone she told me she was now waiting for another (presumably more important) friend in another location and had just forgotten to tell me. She suggested I make my way to the restaurant and wait for them there.

She was most put out when I decided not to do this and went home. Next time we met she made a point of telling me how disappointed she was that I didn’t just trot off to this restaurant and stand outside like a lemon waiting for to finally turn up.

Some people are just self absorbed I guess. Or entitled. Or both.

BusyMummy001 · 03/06/2024 12:38

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:00

Thank you everyone. I have been asking myself whether I was unreasonable or missed something. I just can’t see them in the same way.

I’d feel the same. I’d dump them ones that attacked you, as sound like a seriously unsympathetic and selfish bunch. Maybe make a WhatsApp group for the ones that stood up for you and see how that friendship group goes, though?

HarrietPierce · 03/06/2024 12:37

Nanny0gg

"At that point, where did it say the ages of other children?"

The OP says her youngest has just turned 7

DecafCanEffOff · 03/06/2024 12:36

I'd be straight into the group WA:

"Hi all,

I've spent the past ** days reflecting on what happened at A's bday and I need to talk about it. I can't pretend it didn't happen.

DH was late. It happens and were the situation reversed I would never have reacted as A did. I cannot leave a 7 year old child alone. I have never been late or flaked on an event before, and I didn't flake on this one - I was late because DH was late. It happens.

I am going through one of the worst periods in my life right now. I have just had major surgery and attended the bday despite feeling unwell. I am facing a life without my DH. I still showed up.

I understand DH's diagnosis may make some of you uncomfortable - trust me, I get it, I'm living with it. But I would prefer you just not invite me to things rather than make me feel even more shit about my life than I already do, by berating me for tardiness.

I'm going to leave this group for now, you know where I am if you want me, and if any of you are ever going through something like this, I am absolutely here for you. Because it is fucking awful. But right now I need people around me who can support me, not pile on and reduce me to tears for missing a few fucking birthday drinks.

I won't be attending the BBQ next weekend, I just don't feel safe or supported by you all right now.

If you think this is dramatic, that's great - it means your life is a lot happier than mine right now.

Thanks,

SummerDays"

Then leave.

Baaliali · 03/06/2024 12:35

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 12:21

I have got a horrible feeling this is excactly what it is all about. They are looking for a reason because they don’t want to be saddled with what it is to come. I am not the kind of person to go on about my problems, but we are not going to be able to have parties or do fun things for a while due to his treatment which will make him quite ill. I think they might have been looking for a way to ditch us, and make it look like my fault.

I am feeling quite devastated to lose my friends as well as dealing with this.

I feel more angry and used than anything else. I am at work and I can’t even concentrate.

Another poster upthread pointed to this scenario and suggested there was a possibility it may be unconscious. I agree with this. That is why I wouldn’t rock the boat just yet. They will protect their egos because this is pretty shady stuff so while you might understand the ultimate motivation they will just deny it and make you look and possibly even feel like the bad guy.

Instead step back and see what you do want from the group. The people you like organise to meet up with, the others just leave it to die out. Groups do not respond well to confrontation with the group. Any whistler blower ever will tell you that the group gets protected over the individual.

Maddy70 · 03/06/2024 12:32

I would send a message. Saying that you are very upset over the birthday meal

State the reason. State the fact you let them know . State that uou nrought a present and attended the meal. State your ill health. State your dhs and state thar instead of support frik your lovely friends you faced a night of hostility which has made you question your friendship group

Thanks to those who offered words of support. It was greatly appreciated.
Please when you are working out the costs for the holiday count me out

Viviennemary · 03/06/2024 12:31

That was a horrible experience for you.I admit get irritated when folk cant make it or can only make part of the evening but you had a good reason and it was mean of them to embarrass and upset you like this in front of everyone. In hindsight it probably would have been better not to go at all. Dont do anything drastic like fall out with them all. Just concentrate on the nice ones and ignore the nasty ones. Easier said than done I know.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 12:31

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:27

At that point, where did it say the ages of other children?

At that point it didn't, which is why I was confused as to why you brought it up as the thread has moved on.

Not saying you're not right to challenge that particular poster though, as most of us have been doing throughout.

Fraaahnces · 03/06/2024 12:31

Btw, I’m so very sorry that your family is having to go through all of this.

Fraaahnces · 03/06/2024 12:30

I think you should send her a message. I would state very clearly that you are angry and underwhelmed at her “Mean Girls” behaviour. You had spent a lot of time finding a present - unlike her coven of harpies that also chose to attack you. State that now more than ever, you realise that time is too short to waste it with
bitter, entitled, ill-mannered people and you would appreciate it if she lost your number.
Then block.

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:29

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 12:21

I have got a horrible feeling this is excactly what it is all about. They are looking for a reason because they don’t want to be saddled with what it is to come. I am not the kind of person to go on about my problems, but we are not going to be able to have parties or do fun things for a while due to his treatment which will make him quite ill. I think they might have been looking for a way to ditch us, and make it look like my fault.

I am feeling quite devastated to lose my friends as well as dealing with this.

I feel more angry and used than anything else. I am at work and I can’t even concentrate.

It's amazing (and very sad) that some people ditch their supposed friends the minute there is any sign of illness.

I wonder why that is?

daffodilesque · 03/06/2024 12:28

That's horrible OP. Surely they must have form for this? You did nothing wrong.

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:27

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 12:26

We do now, but again you might need to read the thread.

At that point, where did it say the ages of other children?

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:26

DancingNotDrowning · 03/06/2024 09:36

er perhaps she does but it’s hardly unreasonable to leave a 13 year old with a younger sibling for a short period of time Hmm

this is a cross roads situation. Either OP decides her friends are bitches and she cuts them out or she can consider that if this is unusual behaviour in the past 13 years of friendship maybe there’s a sensitivity that is worth exploring.

I’d do the latter, people and situations are complex and I’d want to understand why the friends were so upset. But as I said May e they’re just arseholes but asking the exploratory questions is the best way to find out.

You wouldn't do that with my DGC

Not all children are the same, if you hadn't noticed

And it was a bloody DRINK
She was there for the meal

AND she was the ONLY one who bought a present!

HcbSS · 03/06/2024 12:26

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:10

Some of them did understand, it was birthday friend and the ones in the group closest to her that were annoyed.

I am supposed to be going to a bbq next weekend with them, and kids and I really don’t want to go now.

Step back and tell them exactly why. How dare they treat you like that. It's borderline bullying.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 12:26

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:22

Not everyone is happy to leave 13 year olds at home and possibly 'in charge' of other kids.

Depends on family dynamics

And the OP wasn't in the least flaky.

And we don't know HOW old the kids are anyway so stop projecting

We do now, but again you might need to read the thread.

MabelW · 03/06/2024 12:25

CocoapuffPuff · 03/06/2024 08:51

Well, OP, I think you've just learned that some of those people are not your friends.

Are you all 12?

Goodness knows why you stayed for dinner. I'd have walked out. Its a birthday not a fucking royal wedding.

I think this sums it up

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 12:25

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:17

Because she couldn't get there in time??

What do you think??

I've already explained, you might need to look back on a couple of posts to see why I asked.

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:22

DancingNotDrowning · 03/06/2024 09:27

Flaking on birthday drinks? Her DH was stuck on a late running train and she couldn't leave her kids alone. What's flaky about that?

not leaving your 13+ child because your DH is running an hour late sounds flakey to me and likely sounded flakey to the birthday girl.

Not everyone is happy to leave 13 year olds at home and possibly 'in charge' of other kids.

Depends on family dynamics

And the OP wasn't in the least flaky.

And we don't know HOW old the kids are anyway so stop projecting

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 12:21

Overthebay · 03/06/2024 11:44

They are preparing to kick you out of the group because of your husbands illness. It happens. How you react now, be careful, they will make it look like it’s your fault

I have got a horrible feeling this is excactly what it is all about. They are looking for a reason because they don’t want to be saddled with what it is to come. I am not the kind of person to go on about my problems, but we are not going to be able to have parties or do fun things for a while due to his treatment which will make him quite ill. I think they might have been looking for a way to ditch us, and make it look like my fault.

I am feeling quite devastated to lose my friends as well as dealing with this.

I feel more angry and used than anything else. I am at work and I can’t even concentrate.

OP posts:
SpringleDingle · 03/06/2024 12:21

Aarrghh - I'd drop the mean ones like hot potatos... I do not need that in my life! YANBU

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 12:17

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 09:01

I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

Why did this mean you couldn't make it to the drinks?

Did you explain it to them?

Because she couldn't get there in time??

What do you think??