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Friendship group split unexpectedly wwyd?

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Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 08:41

I have name changed for this, for obvious reasons.

I have a group of 8 friends, we have been good friends for 13 years or so since the kids were born.

Last week it was friend A birthday dinner. I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

On the evening of the birthday, drinks are planned, dinner to follow. I text to say I can’t make the drinks as dh is running late back from the office ( train cancelled) but I will be in time for dinner.

I arrive for dinner. The atmosphere is terrible, I give friend A my birthday gift. She then says how disappointed and angry she is that I let her down for the drinks. I am blindsided by this, she looks angry. Second friend chips in that she managed to make it on time and she has 4 kids. Another friend agreed with them and said it was poor form on birthday events. I apologised and said it couldn’t be helped. I started to cry I am embarrassed to say. Another friend tells the others to back off a bit, that it’s fair enough summer days is going through a difficult time, to that another friend then says words to the effect that I should be more organised. The group then seemed to split in two. One half were having a go at me, the other standing up for me.

I felt sick to my stomach and somehow for through the dinner and cried all of the way home.

wwyd in this situation?

It felt like I was being ganged up on at the time, it was genuinely horrible. I felt they had discussed it before I got there, like it was pre planned or something.

Do you think it’s ever okay to take it in turns as part of a group having a go at one person? I am just so upset still. Just for the record I am very reliable and not a flake at all. I don’t know if I ever want to see them again.

OP posts:
AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 03/06/2024 15:45

I think you've made the right decision, OP. I wouldn't want to go near them or their BBQ while fully 100% well, never mind while recovering from surgery.

I'm surprised how many people have been on the aggressive birthday girl's side, to be honest. I hate being late, so I'm usually waiting for other people and tapping my feet about it, but not even I would complain about someone being late for drinks. One of the functions of pre-dinner drinks in a schedule is to create a time window for late arrivals before the main event! With the best will in the world, once you have more than three people booked for dinner, I find someone is always late, and for perfectly valid reasons outside their control.

This time it was your husband who was caught by trains, which meant it was you.

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:43

GoldThumb · 03/06/2024 15:40

Okay, say this is true, and how they think, then they’ve outdone the OP, because that is one of the most drama llama reactions to something that’s not a big deal. OP missed some drinks but got there for dinner.

OP is being dramatic about her husband illness, but they’re not being dramatic because someone’s missed drinks? Perspective

And even if you do think your friend is being a drama llama, you don’t do a pile on with multiple others until she’s crying, and then still carry on.
Thats spiteful and cruel.

I don’t think (I don’t think anyone does?) OP is being dramatic, at least now you know which of them are actual mates. Even if you continue meeting this group in time, it’s useful you can file them away as ‘never to be relied upon’

Well I certainly don't disagree with any of that. The 'friends' sound like bitches. I've caught up on the OP's other posts now and I don't think she's done anything wrong.

GoldThumb · 03/06/2024 15:42

alrightluv · 03/06/2024 15:26

Well what a surprise birthday girl hasn't aplogised.
I didn't realise you can see who's read the group Whatsapp? Any group I've been in I couldn't?

You can, but only for messages you’ve sent.
if you hold down on your messages, then click ‘info’ when it pops up

WayOutOfLine · 03/06/2024 15:41

There isn't an excuse for ganging up on one person and making them cry in public, even if the Op was flaky, a bit rubbish, not a great friend (even though she doesn't sound like any of those things). None. It's not ok, I've been in lots of groups of friends and never seen this or done this.

GoldThumb · 03/06/2024 15:40

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:25

I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

It sounds to me as if they'd half expected you to flake, and you did. I know you say you don't have form, but with the other stuff going on lately perhaps they feel you've been milking it all a bit for attention or sympathy.

Even without the surgery and DH's recent diagnosis, the simple fact is that his train was cancelled and you couldn't leave the kids until he was home, so all the other stuff is irrelevant really, and not worth mentioning in the context of not turning up for the drinks. So my guess is that they think you are being a bit of a drama llama. It's not for me to say either way whether they might have a point, I have no idea, but if they are not being understanding at a time when life is hard for you then they are not the friends you thought they were.

Edited

Okay, say this is true, and how they think, then they’ve outdone the OP, because that is one of the most drama llama reactions to something that’s not a big deal. OP missed some drinks but got there for dinner.

OP is being dramatic about her husband illness, but they’re not being dramatic because someone’s missed drinks? Perspective

And even if you do think your friend is being a drama llama, you don’t do a pile on with multiple others until she’s crying, and then still carry on.
Thats spiteful and cruel.

I don’t think (I don’t think anyone does?) OP is being dramatic, at least now you know which of them are actual mates. Even if you continue meeting this group in time, it’s useful you can file them away as ‘never to be relied upon’

loropianalover · 03/06/2024 15:40

I can’t imagine being an adult and throwing such a tantrum about someone being late to my ‘birthday dinner’ that someone at the table ends up crying while a group snipes at them and gangs up. I would have been mortified to be there and continue the night.

OP I’m glad you sent a message today to put your limits in place. A previous poster mentioned that this is a few of them laying the ground work to push you out a bit because of your families bad news. Some people are unfortunately just fair weather in this way and use friends as fun, social outlets rather than people to lean on and give meaningful support to. Wishing you and your family the best, and best of luck to your husband with his treatment!

ambushoftigers · 03/06/2024 15:37

So she was basically pissed off with you for not making an effort, when what you actually did was making a huge effort considering your circumstances. Even brought a present.

She must have seen you as an easy target she could take her anger out on, for her partner not making enough effort and the other ones not bringing her presents. She must have known that you would not tell her to fuck off. Because you are nice.

And the other ones didn’t want to piss her off even more so it was easier to agree with her and let you take the blame when you arrived.

Who paid for this pity party by the way?

Marplesyrup · 03/06/2024 15:37

crockofshite · 03/06/2024 13:58

I'm absolutely horrified at the behaviour of these people.

Well done for your message re the BBQ and girls trip.

This 100%

I am so sorry that you’ve had to go through this awful experience. Hopefully getting so many helpful and supportive replies on here will help you to see that you did absolutely nothing wrong. Stay strong, you’re dealing with it really well.

GerbilsForever24 · 03/06/2024 15:36

To give BG the benefit of the doubt - she may be thinking about the right response and might still surprise you. Possibly clutching at straws.

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/06/2024 15:34

Summerdays24 · 03/06/2024 09:56

I haven’t considered her a queen bee type before now, she is very friendly but quite demanding. She takes charge of lots of arrangements and she has a few closer friends within the group that are very loyal to her. Fair enough but I honestly don’t think they should have got involved. I was crying and they were still going at it!!

Do you still want to be friends with them after that because i wouldn’t.

Sometimes you’re friends with people because of circumstances, ie the kids being the same age and you being at the same life stage. But not because in other circumstances you’d actually choose to be friends.

can you remain friends with some of the nicer ones on an individual basis?

KarenOH · 03/06/2024 15:32

Solidarity OP. Not exactly sure what they wanted you to do, magically fix the train delays?

I know what its like to be blindsided by a loss of friendship. I loss my best friend over something SO stupid and silly that I was stunned she was making any sort of big deal over it at all, and it all went kaput really quickly. I still feel sad about it.

JLou08 · 03/06/2024 15:32

They seem awful. Odd that this has happened after 13 years of friendship. Is it out of character for them or are they actually not very nice people but it's the first time you have been the target?
I wouldn't want to be friends with people who ganged up on me like that and I would have been upset and embarrassed to. I couldn't imagine my friends doing this but if they did I would want to get to the bottom of why its happened as it would be something they wouldn't usually do.

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:32

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 15:27

Drama Llama

'kin hell!

You've read the OP's posts and you think it's a possibility??

Wow

I've read the OP only. As I say, it's not for me to say whether these 'friends' are being completely unreasonable or not, I am just trying to understand why these women who are usually the OP's friends, would choose to turn on her collectively and over-react to something relatively small and want to make the OP feel bad about it. I am not making a judgement about the OP at all because I don't know her. I am guessing about what the friends' reaction might really be about.

ColdGirlWinter · 03/06/2024 15:29

Tbry24 · 03/06/2024 15:27

I’m not surprised you cried, I would have burst into tears and left.

I think it’s possible something happened before you arrived though. No idea what but maybe the birthday girl was already upset about something else, for example a nasty comment from someone else or the lack of happy birthdays or gifts. I don’t know. Is there anyway you can discreetly check with friends that were nice to you if something happened before this?

This has been covered earlier in the thread. From memory (Christ it was only an hour ago!) the birthday woman's husband hadn't come up with the goods or something. Entitled brat!

2Old2Tango · 03/06/2024 15:29

I am feeling quite devastated to lose my friends as well as dealing with this.

As you're finding out OP, the mean ones aren't your friends, they're self-centred bitches. Concentrate on your DH, your supportive friends and your other friend groups. Above all, be kind to yourself and allow yourself to heal fully from your surgery. You're going to need your strength - physically and mentally - to deal with whatever challenges are ahead (spoken from experience). Take care 💐

ambushoftigers · 03/06/2024 15:29

Tbry24 · 03/06/2024 15:27

I’m not surprised you cried, I would have burst into tears and left.

I think it’s possible something happened before you arrived though. No idea what but maybe the birthday girl was already upset about something else, for example a nasty comment from someone else or the lack of happy birthdays or gifts. I don’t know. Is there anyway you can discreetly check with friends that were nice to you if something happened before this?

She did. Read the thread.

therealcookiemonster · 03/06/2024 15:29

YouOKHun · 03/06/2024 15:03

Well done sending the message. This definitely sounds like a Queen Bee situation as mentioned upthread. My pity is reserved for the silly woman’s toadies who thoughtlessly back her up until the day one of them is cast out for absolutely nothing other than it being their turn. These sort of people want to control the dynamic and anything positive or negative that happens to people in the group that pulls the limelight off them has to be dealt with, so I agree with others that you’ve been manoeuvred out of the group. This will turn out to be the best things that could have happened!

It sounds like an extension of this is that on one day of the year she is a Special Birthday Princess and the world must defer to this momentous event🙄. It looks like people hadn’t done exactly as she expects and demands on her special day. Her DH probably did nothing wrong, or at least nothing wrong in the eyes of a mature adult. Some people didn’t get her good enough presents - shocking! You not making the drinks is not putting the Special Birthday Princess first either (no excuse is valid on her Special Day). I can’t stand these types, it’s one of the reasons I am of no fixed abode friendship wise and have no “group”.

Honestly, stick with the sensible friend and the other friends you’ve got. If messaging has made you feel lighter then that is telling.

agreed

and who on earth still tantrums about their birthday past the age of 10?

ColdGirlWinter · 03/06/2024 15:28

alrightluv · 03/06/2024 15:26

Well what a surprise birthday girl hasn't aplogised.
I didn't realise you can see who's read the group Whatsapp? Any group I've been in I couldn't?

I think she was mentioning who had responded rather than read, I don't think you can tell who's read a post and who hasn't.

ClonedSquare · 03/06/2024 15:28

Your difficult life circumstances aren't even relevant here! Even if you had the world's easiest personal life, you were late for a reason out of your control. There's absolutely no reason for them to be angry with you, never mind so angry they confront you as a group.

I can see why they might be annoyed if you had a habit of flaking and being late to things, but even then you have a grown up and calm discussion about it, you don't jump them as a group and make them cry.

Tbry24 · 03/06/2024 15:27

I’m not surprised you cried, I would have burst into tears and left.

I think it’s possible something happened before you arrived though. No idea what but maybe the birthday girl was already upset about something else, for example a nasty comment from someone else or the lack of happy birthdays or gifts. I don’t know. Is there anyway you can discreetly check with friends that were nice to you if something happened before this?

ColdGirlWinter · 03/06/2024 15:27

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:25

I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

It sounds to me as if they'd half expected you to flake, and you did. I know you say you don't have form, but with the other stuff going on lately perhaps they feel you've been milking it all a bit for attention or sympathy.

Even without the surgery and DH's recent diagnosis, the simple fact is that his train was cancelled and you couldn't leave the kids until he was home, so all the other stuff is irrelevant really, and not worth mentioning in the context of not turning up for the drinks. So my guess is that they think you are being a bit of a drama llama. It's not for me to say either way whether they might have a point, I have no idea, but if they are not being understanding at a time when life is hard for you then they are not the friends you thought they were.

Edited

Oh just bobby off will you.

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/06/2024 15:27

What did they expect to do? Leave the kids home alone?

Nanny0gg · 03/06/2024 15:27

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:25

I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

It sounds to me as if they'd half expected you to flake, and you did. I know you say you don't have form, but with the other stuff going on lately perhaps they feel you've been milking it all a bit for attention or sympathy.

Even without the surgery and DH's recent diagnosis, the simple fact is that his train was cancelled and you couldn't leave the kids until he was home, so all the other stuff is irrelevant really, and not worth mentioning in the context of not turning up for the drinks. So my guess is that they think you are being a bit of a drama llama. It's not for me to say either way whether they might have a point, I have no idea, but if they are not being understanding at a time when life is hard for you then they are not the friends you thought they were.

Edited

Drama Llama

'kin hell!

You've read the OP's posts and you think it's a possibility??

Wow

alrightluv · 03/06/2024 15:26

Well what a surprise birthday girl hasn't aplogised.
I didn't realise you can see who's read the group Whatsapp? Any group I've been in I couldn't?

PlayListHelpNeeded · 03/06/2024 15:25

I have had surgery in the last few weeks and I am still feeling fragile, we have also just had news my husband has a rare but serious, life limiting disease I am not feeling my best. My friends know this.

It sounds to me as if they'd half expected you to flake, and you did. I know you say you don't have form, but with the other stuff going on lately perhaps they feel you've been milking it all a bit for attention or sympathy.

Even without the surgery and DH's recent diagnosis, the simple fact is that his train was cancelled and you couldn't leave the kids until he was home, so all the other stuff is irrelevant really, and not worth mentioning in the context of not turning up for the drinks. So my guess is that they think you are being a bit of a drama llama. It's not for me to say either way whether they might have a point, I have no idea, but if they are not being understanding at a time when life is hard for you then they are not the friends you thought they were.

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